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Lisa_T
6th September 2006, 01:44 AM
I'm getting slightly worried here. I see plenty of people with two or more Cavs, but I notice that they seem to be married (the people, not the Cavs :D ), living with partners, family etc. Any people here live alone with more than one Cav, and what are/were their experiences?

I'm starting to get excited about the prospect of my pup, but the wibblies are kicking in too. Partly 'cos I've yet to tell my parents about the intended adoption- but hey, I'm 28, have my own home, and in three years they've only had to watch Holly a handful of times, if that. By that age, my mother was married with two children and had owned at various times a dog and two cats. They can't possibly compain, can they?!! :yikes :oops:

WoodHaven
6th September 2006, 02:05 AM
Everyone has a different tolerance level. Actually I know of a few breeders that would probably have more cavaliers if they weren't married. My husband does very little of the "dogs care" -- but he works so I can spend more time at home dealing with the doglets.
I think it is easier to have two dogs than just one. The dogs tend to keep each other occupied<no matter if you are married or single>.

debjen
6th September 2006, 06:03 AM
well I have 2 dogs but only one Cav..the other is a 95 pound lab..LOL...for awhile I was thinking of getting another Cav to keep Robbie company as my lab (who is 8 1/2 years old) was not only ignoring him but would get up and move any time Robbie tried to cuddle up...it took about 6 months but he finally warmed up to the little guy and now they even play together at times.

judy
6th September 2006, 08:25 AM
I'm single and would love to get a second cavalier. My only hesitation is because i live in an apartment and my rental agreement actually says no pets, and i know i'm already pushing it with one dog and one cat. It's not so much i'm afraid of being evicted--in fact, someone at the dog park told me you can get a therapist's letter saying the dog is therapeutic and they can't kick you out; anyway, my apartment management people are really nice and have seen zack and didn't object. Still, getting a second one would be a big step in that context. but i am considering it and am open to it.

They are such a social breed, and my dog zack in particular adores other dogs. I had my daughter's cavalier with me for three days and three nights when she went out of town a week and a half ago, and having two was wonderful. They adore each other and get lots of playing in. Not to mention, i enjoyed double the pleasure too. double the sweetness and tail wagging and dog smiles.

It was fun to experience their differences. Zack's kisses are more emphatic and arduous than Belle's, Belle's are very soft and gentle, sweet little licks. Zack isn't exactly rough, but he's more intense.

And at the dog park, Belle sat next to me the whole time, except for a couple of tentative ventures off the bench to walk around within a few feet of me. Zack is all over the huge park, visiting every dog he can find, and jumping up in peoples' laps too. He loves social adventure.

Their bodies felt so different. It's hard to describe. Zack is more wiggly and wirey. Belle feels more...like a stuffed animal. You can pick her up and put her wherever you want and she'll stay there, such as in your lap, and there's kind of a solid settled feeling about her energy, whereas Zack will get into my lap and stay for a while, especially if not feeling well or on the rare occasions he's especially tired, but he is more oriented toward moving around. He doesn't want to just lay on you because you want him to. He wants to lay on you if he feels like it. Belle will let you do anything you want with her, she's kind of floppy and passive. zack will let you do what you want with him too, i guess it's a breed thing, but if left to his own devices, he likes to spread out more than belle does.

Both are so precious, they make a delightful combination, and i would love to keep Belle here forever. at least i have her in my family, that's the next best thing.

luvzcavs
6th September 2006, 08:49 AM
I am a single Mum with 2 cavalier boys (litter mates), I do however live with my brother but we both work shifts so we really don't see each other that much I work when he is home and vice versa.

What is it that concerns you about being on your own with multiple cavs ?
Is it the financial side of things or the attention/workload issue ?
or of course something completely different ??

I have had my boys from babies they are now nearly 4, one of them (Harry) has chronic allergies and a heart murmur and he costs me a small fortune each month for his allergy drugs, he is not medicated for his heart at this stage. The other boy(Digby) has had to have plastic surgery for lip folds and has low grade allergies amongst a few other minor ailments.
What I am getting at (the long way round) is the financial burden being on my own has been difficult at times but you find a way, go without yourself , beg, steal and borrow for your babies, just as you would if they were human.
The workload with skin care regime, trips to the specialist etc is also a bit difficult on my own but I have made it my lifes work (apart from my real job of course) and it is all so worth it at the end of the day.
One because of the love and joy these boys bring me everyday but two because when you see the bond they have together and how much they support each other at different times you would not want it any other way.
Of course the real moral of the story is research the breeder, don't rush into anything and get a nest egg saved first for any unforseeable (sry can't spell) events (where possible). Also helps to get on top of the obedience training to as its much more difficult training 2 on your own ( I think and so i'm told at doggy school)
I had never owned a dog before and did not grow up with one so was very uneducated when buying mine but I have learned the hard way and now know what I should of done.

Sorry if all this dribble means nothing or is stating the obvious but it is all I have to offer as a single parent. Best wishes with it all.

judy
6th September 2006, 09:37 AM
...another moral of the story--if you can afford it at all, it's probably a good idea to have dog health insurance--some companies have multiple pet discounts. With this breed, it could be very helpful to have insurance.

i enjoyed reading your story of life with your boys, and i think it's great that you never had a dog before and went ahead and got two cavalliers. I bet you were thinking of their need for companionship. As you say, you learn a lot from experience. That's what people always say about their first child...

James C
6th September 2006, 10:13 AM
Hi I am also single and have a cav charlie 9months old. Before that i had a ciran terrior .My Mum got him for me when i was doing my exams. Rickey my ciran lived for 15 years and was my best friend. But last year was a bad year my mum and dog died within a few month's of each other. Then Charlie came along the minute he came into my house he took it over my fav chair is now his chair. I work all day but we have our routine for the weekdays and he goes every where with me at weekends if he is not with me my friends ask where is charlie ? I even get cards for special occations addressed to both of us. My life would not be the same without a dog in it. If i ever get married my partner would have to be willing to have charlie as well. What many people dont realise is that when you get a dog its for a period of at least 10 years and as the dog gets older you learn to have fun with your dog but in different ways than when he was younger. A dog is not just for Christmas weather you are married or single. A lot can happen in 10 years.
Take care James

Maxxs_Mummy
6th September 2006, 11:22 AM
James, that was a really lovely post & it's so nice to see a man who cares about and loves his dog so much :D

OK then, yes, I'm married with 2 kids (20 and almost 16, so hardly 'kids'), but my hubby works extremely long hours . The dogs are mine and all financial and other 'problems' are mine too :roll:

Daddy is like one of those naughty, crafty uncles you sometimes get when you're kids. You know, the type who will buy you chocolate when you're wearing white and say 'Don't tell your Mum' :lol: He's the one who buys them stuff they're not allowed and gives it to them when I'm not around :roll:

I do virtually everything else for my dogs too. My youngest sometimes does one of the walks a day for me but that's only because I have nerve damage in my back and cannot always get out.

Anyway, what I'm getting at is the fact that my hubby isn't around an awful lot and neither is my eldest. I do sometimes feel like a single parent as he's one of these Dads who is never around in an emergency :roll:

So, all in all I can't see the problem with having more than one dog. Tbh, if hubby would agree, I would fill my house up with them. I think I could cope with about another four before we'd be wading in dog hair :badgrin:

Karlin
6th September 2006, 12:31 PM
Actually I know of a few breeders that would probably have more cavaliers if they weren't married.

:lol: :lol:

I think many of us would have many more except for some sort of outside control -- spouese, parents, the raised eyebrows of friends... :lol:

I live on my own and have three cavaliers now -- I agree with Sandy that two are actually easier than one and this is true too of cats (and much healthier mentally and socially for a dog or cat to have a companion I think too). Three has been nearly as easy as two except for tangled leads on walks but Lily is only still here because she is very easy.

I also have several cats so it is a pretty full house.

The costs of vet care are always in the back of my mind. This needs to be one part of an overall consideration. I don't have to spend on kids though. It is funny to me that friends with kids will warn me about possible vet costs when insurance for a year for one dog would not come close to their nappy costs for one month!! :lol:

merlinsmum
6th September 2006, 02:18 PM
Thanks for posting this topic, it has helped me with my concerns over adding another cavalier to the household. Much like Donna, I am more or less single! as my partner spends a great deal of him free time teaching scuba diving. He was doing this when I met him so could never complain about the time he spends with us.
This was one of the main reasons I was eventually allowed to get a dog because I spend so much time on my own and its great to have a little buddy with you when you go out. Merlin comes everywhere with me - we only go to pubs now if they are dog friendly!
I have even made a few more friends from having Merlin as it go me further out and about going to training class and meeting new people.

Cavaliers - they just brill!!!!

Lisa_T
6th September 2006, 03:42 PM
TBH, I don't know why I was concerned. Partly the training issue- although Holly, by and large, is now of an age where she's both reliable and obedient, so unless the new puppy throws her for a loop at least I won't be trying to 'bring up' two dogs at once.

Even time isn't a major problem- I'll be working three hours a day (four hours including travel time) at my dad's bookshop, but for the first lot of weeks I'll take the puppy with me. It'll be good socialisation for her and help in the bonding process, and I won't worry. Holly is accustomed to snoozing all morning and violently objects to that routine being disrupted, so I don't expect ructions from her. In the afternoon/evening I'll be dividing my time between working from home, visiting the university library (ten minutes walk) and the occasional archival visit. I even have weektime babysitting sorted out for if I need to go to Dublin for work. Basically, apart from the 3hr per am shop job, my time is my own to distribute as I please. So that's not an issue...

I think it was the attention. I guess I was thinking- two people, two dogs= a dog per person. I don't want either dog to feel neglected, so I suppose I was looking for reassurance that one person could have a solid bond with say, two dogs, while the dogs also have a bond with each other. I'd also heard it's easier to keep two cavs than one. I'm glad so many people seem to agree with that! :D And pet insurance is most *definitely* on the cards..

sramirez
6th September 2006, 09:07 PM
Hi Lisa - I'm a single mom of two cavaliers, a daughter who is 22 and mildly disabled (unable to drive, so I'm responsible for all her driving) and she also has a small dog of her own. My daughter lives in a remodeled apartment in our basement and her little Lhasa for the most part is downstairs with her unless he can sneak upstairs to visit me!

I also work 2 jobs - 6 days/3 nights/week. I do rely on my daughter to help me out with my two girls when I'm not home and she does a great job. I try to walk them every evening when I get home from both jobs - so that's often a tiring task for me more than them.

As you can imagine, my social life is pretty nil. If I don't see somebody on my evening dog walk - I probably won't meet them :D

Sheri

judy
6th September 2006, 09:49 PM
...As you can imagine, my social life is pretty nil. If I don't see somebody on my evening dog walk - I probably won't meet them :D
Sheri

Since i got Zack, my standards of what i'm looking for in a man have become more clear and strict. :) I want someone who seems genuinely happy to see me in the morning and when i come home from work. I want someone warm and affectionate. I want someone who smiles a lot. I want someone who is not moody and who's mood is predictably upbeat. I want someone easy going and adaptable. While these were always qualities that were important, i think that i was more willing to settle for something else and to lower my expectations. Zack is a very satisfying life companion (my cat is not, she is more like some of the men i've been with but not as bad :? ). The only problem with Zack is, i can't expect him to grow old with me. But 10 years of sweetness, or 7, or 5, is worth more than growing old with a grouch or a depressed guy or someone who gets withdrawn or gives a lot of mixed messages. Zack has taught me to hold my standards high from now on. Why shouldn't everyone be like a cavalier??? :lol: ...seriously....

sramirez
6th September 2006, 09:53 PM
I hear you Judy. Unconditional love and understanding (even after you yell at them for some naughty thing they've done) would be great in any partner!!!!! I get so tired of telling everyone why I prefer my two dogs over dating, etc. I finally get the dogs trained and two times today one of them has wee-weed on the floor!!!

How would I handle a man too? I can hardly get anybody at home to listen to me now and I can at least get their attention with treats icon_whistling

Sheri

Lisa_T
6th September 2006, 10:11 PM
I think having a dog (or two, or three...) especially when you obviously dote on them is seen by some guys as a challenge or competition. I've had one (very short term) boyfriend tell Holly to get off the sofa because it was 'his turn.' In fairness I can see that it could be difficult from their perspective- you're trying to build a relationship with a woman who's only interested in you, while the dog(s) is/are clearly loved! :D :D

merlinsmum
6th September 2006, 10:15 PM
A dog will settle and be happy for a cuddle!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Much easier to please than a man!!!!!

Charleen
6th September 2006, 11:00 PM
Lisa_T - I am single and have no human children. I have 3 going on 4 cavaliers. I am 43 and these dogs are my kids. They have so much love to give and I spoil them rotten. I am not lonely when I go home. I even drop them off at doggy day care, while I am working.

I know what you mean about not telling your parents. When I got my third dog, I lived alone, but I didn't tell my parents right away that I had gotten another one. I lived an hour away from them, so I didn't mention it until after I got her.

Until I joined this web-board I thought I was a real oddball for wanting to get multiple dogs. But now with this forum I found out that there are others with the same interest as me. And I am not a dog freak :yikes after all.

WoodHaven
6th September 2006, 11:08 PM
Lisa_T - I am single and have no human children. I have 3 going on 4 cavaliers. I am 43 and these dogs are my kids. They have so much love to give and I spoil them rotten. I am not lonely when I go home. I even drop them off at doggy day care, while I am working.

I know what you mean about not telling your parents. When I got my third dog, I lived alone, but I didn't tell my parents right away that I had gotten another one. I lived an hour away from them, so I didn't mention it until after I got her.

Until I joined this web-board I thought I was a real oddball for wanting to get multiple dogs. But now with this forum I found out that there are others with the same interest as me. And I am not a dog freak :yikes after all.

ROTFLMAO--- the first thing out of my moms mouth when we visit is "how many dogs do you have NOW"??

Remali
7th September 2006, 01:36 AM
I was glad to see this topic, I was thinking about posting along similar lines. I am single, nearly 50 years old, no kids, and both my parents are deceased. I do have an older sister living nearby, however she is not the type to help out. Anyway, I get so worried about working full time (I work days, 40 hours a week) and leaving my two dogs home alone so much. My other dog is a Toy Poodle, and he gets along really well with my Cavalier, so it helps knowing that they have each other when I'm not home. I do spend a lot of my free time with my dogs (well, ALL of my free time pretty much), and I don't go anywhere overnight, I'd miss them too much anyway if I did! Like someone said, I'm not lonely at all because I have my wonderful dogs and they are my family! I think having 2 dogs is nice because in my situation they keep each other company.

I was also glad to see that I wasn't the only one living in an apartment with a dog, or dogs! I was lucky to find a very nice apartment that allowed dogs, and I have a nice glass patio door that goes directly outside to a nice grassy and private backyard area, ideal for going potty! There are only 8 other apartments in my building so it's nice and quiet here, and a couple other people in my building also have pets. At first I was a bit worried about having 2 dogs (my Poodle lived with my Dad till my Dad passed away last year), but now I just love having 2 dogs, and it is nice for them too because they're never alone when I'm not home.

sramirez
7th September 2006, 03:16 PM
Omigosh Lisa - I would rather have a man who "asked" my dogs if he could sit on the couch with them!! :lol:

Sheri

Lisa_T
7th September 2006, 04:52 PM
LOL! It's good to see that my original query recieved so many positive responses! I'll use your examples as ammunition if my parents have a collective fit! Not, at the end of the day, that it's really any of their business. A friend of my mum's is a single girl who works in a very demanding full time job. She has a ruby Cav who spend most of the time with her mum. In that situation, it'd be advisable to check.... in mine, it's not at all! I just hate arguing :roll:

Bruce H
7th September 2006, 07:17 PM
Lisa_T - I am single and have no human children. I have 3 going on 4 cavaliers. I am 43 and these dogs are my kids. They have so much love to give and I spoil them rotten. I am not lonely when I go home. I even drop them off at doggy day care, while I am working.

I know what you mean about not telling your parents. When I got my third dog, I lived alone, but I didn't tell my parents right away that I had gotten another one. I lived an hour away from them, so I didn't mention it until after I got her.

Until I joined this web-board I thought I was a real oddball for wanting to get multiple dogs. But now with this forum I found out that there are others with the same interest as me. And I am not a dog freak :yikes after all.

ROTFLMAO--- the first thing out of my moms mouth when we visit is "how many dogs do you have NOW"??

:lol: :lol: I get the same thing, and not just from parents. I'm known in the office as the "Doggie Pimp".

judy
7th September 2006, 07:29 PM
.... :lol: :lol: I get the same thing, and not just from parents. I'm known in the office as the "Doggie Pimp".


:lol: a proud distinction, i'm sure. Do you have a lot of photos around your desk?

sramirez
7th September 2006, 08:57 PM
I have my dog pictures all over my office. Then for our Halloween night we have at the University residence hall where I work, I dress up in my 50's outfit (poodle skirt, etc.) and both the girls dress up as well in costume. It's a hoot!! Last year one little girl said, "that white and red dog of yours is here every year!"

Sheri

Remali
8th September 2006, 02:01 AM
LOL! Not very many photos of humans on my desk at work, but a LOT of photos of my pets!!

Maxxs_Mummy
8th September 2006, 03:55 AM
LOL! Not very many photos of humans on my desk at work, but a LOT of photos of my pets!!

Sounds like my house :lol: :lol: :lol:

Judy, your ideal man sounds like everything my hubby is not :x I think I'll swap him for another Cavalier - so much easier ;)

Today though, I have been painting out our understairs cupboard & my boys have been so neglected it's unreal!

They kept bringing me toys and play bowing and growling at me to take notice of them - they just don't seem to understand 'in a minute sweetheart, Mamma is a bit busy'.

Eventually, my eldest son came home and had a real good play with them both for about an hour and a half. When they zonked out on their beds they kept giving me filthy looks :lol:

They also had a lovely long walk courtesy of my youngest and his friend tonight so they can hardly think they are neglected - I'd hate to think what they'd be like if I was that busy every day :yikes :roll: :lol:

Remali
10th September 2006, 03:52 AM
Being a single gal, who loves her pets dearly.....my major criteria for finding Mr. Right is this..... would I trust him with my pets? And if the answer is even a "maybe", that isn't good enough, and I keep on lookin'!!
Gotta find myself a guy who respects and loves animals, and he must be someone who I would trust with my pets 100%! LOL!

WoodHaven
10th September 2006, 03:57 AM
You can make a convert. My hubby grew up with a mom that really didn't like ANY animals-- a year with me and he saw the light. Today he understands how much my dogs mean to me and he makes them a priority-- mostly for me (he doesn't fully understand how precious doggie kisses are -lol).

Maxxs_Mummy
10th September 2006, 11:38 PM
Being a single gal, who loves her pets dearly.....my major criteria for finding Mr. Right is this..... would I trust him with my pets? And if the answer is even a "maybe", that isn't good enough, and I keep on lookin'!!
Gotta find myself a guy who respects and loves animals, and he must be someone who I would trust with my pets 100%! LOL!

Oh how true! I could never have married anyone who didn't love animals as much as I do :yikes I got home late from an appointment the other night and was worried that the boys hadn't been fed. I needn't have bothered, it was the first thing he did when he got in from work - and was saying to them to tell Mamma off for neglecting their meal time - by all of 35 minutes :roll:

He was also the one who started Maxx off sleeping upstairs 'he's lonely on his own' :lol: And also built bunny palaces for the rabbits we used to have as the shop bought ones were 'too small for them to bounce around in' :roll: :lol:

He might drive me mad sometimes but I wouldn't really swap him :lol:

merlinsmum
12th September 2006, 10:14 PM
Being a single gal, who loves her pets dearly.....my major criteria for finding Mr. Right is this..... would I trust him with my pets? And if the answer is even a "maybe", that isn't good enough, and I keep on lookin'!!
Gotta find myself a guy who respects and loves animals, and he must be someone who I would trust with my pets 100%! LOL!

Oh how true! I could never have married anyone who didn't love animals as much as I do :yikes I got home late from an appointment the other night and was worried that the boys hadn't been fed. I needn't have bothered, it was the first thing he did when he got in from work - and was saying to them to tell Mamma off for neglecting their meal time - by all of 35 minutes :roll:

He was also the one who started Maxx off sleeping upstairs 'he's lonely on his own' :lol: And also built bunny palaces for the rabbits we used to have as the shop bought ones were 'too small for them to bounce around in' :roll: :lol:

He might drive me mad sometimes but I wouldn't really swap him :lol:

These cavs seem to have that effect on men. Although my other half liked dogs before we got Merlin, he's never really got "close" with one. He was the same as Donna's hubby - let him upstairs he'll be lonely on his own..... They have boy nights together - pizza, football and beer! He's even made a start on making Merlin feel extra special weeks in advance of the new puppy arriving by taking Merlin for his quick "wee poo" walk around 8.30 pm instead of me taking him so its something different. I think he's secretly more excited about the new puppy than I am (males would then be the higher % in the house!) - he won't admint it though :lol: :lol: :lol:

BIZA
12th September 2006, 10:58 PM
Ilive on my own and have 3 cavs 2 collies 1 rottie and a leo but the numbers seem to have crept up and 3 of them are rescues.I also foster any cavs for my local rescue centre these are mainly x breeding bitchs that need to learn about living in a house and my cavs soon teach them usually all the naughty things

Lisa_T
12th September 2006, 11:11 PM
Crikey! I don't think I'd aim for that! :yikes :yikes That's brave!

Denise G.
12th September 2006, 11:51 PM
What a great thread! I'm single and went through the same misgivings before I got Mia. Wrigley had just gotten to the stage where he was very dependable and had free roam of the house at all times (even during the day while I was at work). He knew what I wanted from him and I swear could read my mind at times--ha! Things had gotten really easy and comfortable...

Then I started feeling sorry for him when I left for work--mostly because he has huge brown eyes and knows how to use them to make me feel guilty. Little stinker! I had always wanted a Cavalier and knew that their temperaments were similar to a Golden's. I couldn't physically handle another 100 lb. dog--so getting a Cavi just made sense! icon_whistling

Anyway, I've become so attached to my dogs--and most of the time prefer them to many humans I know. I look forward to going home and rarely go out at night unless it's on the weekends when I've spent most of the day with them. Fortunately, my close friends have recently also gotten dogs, so we do alot of "dog activities" together. I'm the first to add a second dog to the house, though. And I did get a few raised eyebrows when I mentioned my plan. Actually, if someone told me three years ago I would have two dogs that I love to pieces--I would have laughed in their face! :yikes

All that to say, I don't know where I'd find the time to date if I HAD to! For the right guy (i.e., Must Love Dogs) I suppose I'd find a way, though.

So good to hear others are in the same place--and I'm not just one of those weird "dog people"... :fool: Or if I am, I'm in good company! :p

Claire
13th September 2006, 04:20 PM
I am married with 3 cav's - I loved dogs but never really wanted any as my mum didn't really like them and had a very very clean house, I met Darren who had a yorkie and a blenheim and they were great, my dad and mum some what mellowed and sometime they came in the house for visit - mum actually going to the biscuit tin for them...... Daisy the yorkie sometimes had a go at men and if dad moved to fast she was hanging off of his trousers :lol:

We got a house, got married, got a bigger house, dog sat my bosses tri and I was so upset at having to give it back that we got Busta, then Woody and somehow Ozzy - I did have to practice telling my mum though for Busta (after already putting down the deposit and making sure he was ours), and again for Woody and then I pretended that Ozzy was a surprise from Darren. How come I still feel about 6 years old sometimes.
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