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babyC
13th December 2006, 11:28 PM
Everybody has been telling me that Cherrise is too small for her age.. i get that part.. but the latest comment that i just got ,coming back from a breeder is that she has never seen a cavalier like Cherrise and she looks like a pekingnese cross??! :x no offense to pekingnese owners or lovers.. but this is getting really weird.. to me she's just a late bloomer.. h*lp please, any honest opinions ?? :(

Some pictures ..

her dad as a young adult, Am and Can CH.

http://static.flickr.com/132/321696747_31ce3b5ab2_o.jpg

her skinny legs.. :P

http://static.flickr.com/123/321696748_59d94ba1d6.jpg

*Pauline*
13th December 2006, 11:37 PM
She looks like a pure Cavalier to me. Maybe the breeder was being snobby, perhaps implying her dogs are nicer. Some people can be a bit too proud! She's a very cute girl. So what if she's small as long as she's healthy. :flwr:

Lisa_T
13th December 2006, 11:40 PM
Don't worry, she's just small. I can't believe anyone could see any peke in that sweet face! How tall is she at the withers?

Maxwell&me
14th December 2006, 12:13 AM
You have a darling little girl~ Shes very petite but there is no crime in that.
If she was bred for this size, and honestly I dont know what her weight and size are, but if shes WAY UNDER Standard.... ethically that is an issue for the breeder....but shouldnt keep you from loving and enjoying her.

As far as the Peeke Comment, Shame on that person..... To be honest with you I believe I remember reading somewhere that the Charlies were cross bred with the peeke's at one point ? This in no way looks like a Charlie to me.... :|

JaneB
14th December 2006, 12:22 AM
Worry not! Cavs all go through a gangly stage, sometimes their legs look too long, sometimes their backs seem too long, it just takes time for their bodies to come together. I remember thinking that Fauna was really going to be a strange looking Cavalier and not at all what her mom and dad were - wrong. She is now almost 16 months old and becoming a beautiful girl. Flora, who is very small, only 9.14 pounds at 16 months is all legs and silly, wispy feathers. Her parents were both very lovely, well bred dogs so I expect she will come into her own one day. I think sometimes the little ones just take longer to mature. Charisse looks much like Flora did and still does. She's a doll. Ignore the "breeder's" comments, who knows what the motivation was. If your girl is healthy and happy you need not be concerned. Some people! :sl*p:

JaneB

Lisa_T
14th December 2006, 12:32 AM
How old is Flora in your atavar pic, Jane?

And when people talk about 'small' what do you mean- height, weight, 'filled-out'ness?

JaneB
14th December 2006, 12:42 AM
I think Flora was around 6 months old - Fauna 8 months in the avitar.

When people say "she too small" I'm assuming it is because her legs still appear coltish and her coat is still very puppylike. I have noticed in the past 30 days or so that her body has begun to fill out and she isn't so lean and gangly. I think she looks just fine based on what changes Fauna has made in the past 2-3 months. One of my little rescue girls, Ella, is only 6 months old and has more coat than Flora and weighs more than she does. My other little one, Abby, is itty-bitty. In fact, I had her out on a walk this morning and someone asked if she was a BEAGLE! I was so embarassed for her. I'm glad she didn't understand the question. :yikes

JaneB

Lisa_T
14th December 2006, 01:22 AM
poor little honey. Well, Holly was insulted as a pup 'cos some plonker round here thought she was a Yorkie. In fairness, BTs are not common- heck, CAVS aren't common- around this part of Belfast, and there are a lot of Yorkies and the colourings are kinda similar...

Plonkers.

Amber is nearly as tall as Holly (who is on the small side at 3.5 years) at five months, but she is still almost ridiculously gangly. At the moment she's like cat- all length and no width, and from the front she looks so sweet- thin face, thin front, colty legs, and then that slightly grumpy-ruby face topped with long (for her age) ears. :D :D

I wonder if Cherise is small as in puppy-like and not filled out, or small as in little height wise. From the pic I'd estimate that Cherise is pretty much the same height as Amber, or Holly, but just still very slender. Which is fine. I still get people telling me my Cavalier needs to fill out. :yikes

frecklesmom
14th December 2006, 01:37 AM
Gosh, I just looked at some Peke pictures and I see no resemblance. You have a lovely Cav girl and maybe the breeder is a little jealous :yuk: Don't let her get to you, for goodness sake.

Lisa_T
14th December 2006, 02:01 AM
Another point- I notice Cherise's dad was Canadian/American (if I'm reading the abbreviations right) champion, and he looks very dainty too- reminds me of Holly, in fact. As Karlin pointed out elsewhere, most of the Cavaliers you see (especially those from puppyfarms/BYBs) are considerably larger than standard, or are at the top end of the standard. Show people will be breeding for show quality dogs, and therefore the dogs will be smaller. I was at a show recently and was talking to the owner of an otherwise beautiful Blen bitch- and owner was totally resigned to knowing she would not evenplace that day as the judge's preference was for the smaller end of the scale, and her dog was large. Perhaps too large; hard to tell. Also, Cherise is a bitch and they are (or should be) a little smaller than the guys anyway.

don't worry, honestly. If she's healthy and happy that's all that matters. She has one of the most beautiful little Blen faces I've ever seen, and since I love the daintier Cavs, you're lucky I don't live near you.

I might dognap her otherwise...

Peke, fiddle! :yuk:

Cathy T
14th December 2006, 02:54 AM
Nahhh...I don't see it. You'll be amazed how much she changes as she grows though. I constantly got comments that Shelby looked an english toy or a pug. She has a puggy little nose and buggy eyes. But she's beautiful to me. She really grew into her looks and now I get comments all the time about how cute she is.

I had then at our club party last weekend and Jake's daddy's breeder was there. When I told her Jake was her boy's offspring she was quite offended. "Well, his daddy certainly isn't that big. He's huge isn't he?" She has Jake's sister and is breeding her. "She's certainly not that big" She's a very forthright person. I wasn't offended. I know Jake is very big for the breed. There was one other dog there that was his height.

BarbMazz
14th December 2006, 04:02 AM
I think that breeder has a nose that's out of joint! Cherrise is beautiful! I know that Bentley didn't really fill out and look "adult" until he was over two years old. All pups go through a gangley stage where they look all out of sorts.

Don't you fret your baby is perfect!

My Wesley
14th December 2006, 04:50 AM
Ew! How could someone say that? She looks nothing like it! Actually, my in-laws had mentioned that Wesley looked like one as well. What are these people thinking? I think they look nothing like Pekingese!

babyC
14th December 2006, 08:14 AM
hahahahahaha :jump: you all made my day!! This forum is a blessing! you are all a blessing .. Thank you so so much.. :) Can't believe of all the stories that you guys tell me.. some of them are hillarious.. :lol: :lol: Jane, i think Cherrise do has a lot of resemblance to Fauna! She's at 8.3 lb now at 8 month.. not that tall about 30 cm .. ? she just looks lanky , because of her skinny legs.. when you actually measure her, she's actually not that tall.. big *PHEWWWWWW* ! thank you thank you thank you again! :D

coconut
14th December 2006, 08:29 AM
ur little girl is so cute, don't listen to what anyone else is saying bad about her!

AT
14th December 2006, 09:28 AM
I even get annoyed when people call my charlies pekes :roll: Have also had , baby rottie/staffie , shih tsu,terrier etc

She is nothing like a peke & not particularly unusual for a cavalier , or last 4 have had little turned up noses ;)

pippa
14th December 2006, 10:05 AM
She is beautiful and looks pure cav to me! My Pippin is quite petite in build and always gets called puppy by people but he is nearly three!

Don't worry what people say.

Bruce H
14th December 2006, 12:06 PM
If we can all agree that a pekingnese has 4 legs, then I guess in that respect someone might see some pekingnese in her :lol:

Just ignore people like that, not worth your time fretting about that kind of a dumb comment.

Claire
14th December 2006, 12:25 PM
Busta is on the petite size, but Woody is a weird looking one - he looks skinny sometimes and then has big old bum... :D

matties mum
14th December 2006, 12:34 PM
Dont take any notice she is a loverly cavalier girl and the breeder is so jealous that you have her ----Aileen

Lisa_T
14th December 2006, 12:51 PM
If you mean she's 30 cm at the shoulder, and she's probably nearly finished growing- well, breed standard calls for height starting from 12 inches at the shoulder in the UK. That would mean that Cherise is simply on the small end since the converter says 30cm is just under 12 inches, but not seriously so. I doubt Holly's much more than 12 inches at the shoulder. Just be happy that she'll probably always be a portable pup ;) I remember asking the vet when Holly was around 9months if she was seriously undersized, and the vet said she was simply a very 'pretty, dainty specimen of the breed' and in fact she'd seen a few even smaller :yikes

...and I've had similar comments about Amber, especially at first. Now we think she looks like a grumpy little boxer thing, but only when she sits in certain positions. Very cute. :D

My pair are:

Holly- 11 in at shoulder
Amber- @ 10 in at shoulder

Cicero's Mummy
14th December 2006, 12:57 PM
If we can all agree that a pekingnese has 4 legs, then I guess in that respect someone might see some pekingnese in her :lol:

Just ignore people like that, not worth your time fretting about that kind of a dumb comment.


:sl*p: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Joanne M
14th December 2006, 11:51 PM
Cherisse is perfect I just love her little face. Gosh she's the perfect little cavalier. At 18 months Tucker weighs 13 pounds and his brother Jack weighs at least a pound less.

Although King Charles Spaniels are adorable too, I was insulted when the vet tech was trying to convince me one day that was what Tucker was.
As IF ......