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Laura&Lia
21st December 2006, 10:10 AM
Hi,

I'm thinking about to spay Lia. It was on my mind from the day we got her, but my mother-in-law says that we should let her to get pups one time before to spay her! Do you think that's true?

Which are the benefits od spay her, outside she has not her period? Are there also medical benefits?

joanna
21st December 2006, 11:06 AM
This is the article Karlin posted in the "Caring for your cavalier section"

http://cavaliertalk.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2194

Barbara Nixon
21st December 2006, 11:51 AM
The idea of having a litter before spaying is very old fashioned. Years ago vets did recommend this, but nowadays theyrecommend a spay, unless you want to breed. Breeding is not to be taken lightly as it can be risky for the bitch, very hard work for you and can be very expensive, as if you are responsible, you would have to have lots of tests done. A good tested stud dog would be pricy and not all births are straightforward.

Some vets say spay before the first season and others suggest after on eseason. Be guided by your own vet. Saying prevents pyometra, but if done before the first season, it is believed to really reduce the chances of mammary tumours. Spaying after the first season does prevent pyometra, but the benefits in tumour prevention are not as good.

Pyometra can strike very quickly at at a very young age, as Anita will tell you. Her Millie was under a year old when she became ill very quickly and things were touch and go for a few days after her op.

Bruce H
21st December 2006, 01:14 PM
Yes, she should be spayed for the reasons others have stated.

Additionally, all the breeders I know sell their puppies on a spay/neuter contract. If you have a contract, it may require you to S/N; if it does, to let her have a litter would then be legally and morally wrong.

Cicero's Mummy
21st December 2006, 02:39 PM
While I dont recommend pediatric spaying due to personal reasons (our local shelter does this)(i am such an overprotective mum), I have been told by a breeder to let her go into heat once so that her coat stays "pretty." But my vet says this is bunk. Her coat is in her genetics and how we care for it... icon_whistling (sorry if this offends, not meant to offend)

So actually... I would say it is your own personal decision (minus the issue of a spay/neuter contract... if you have one, don't skip out on it! for the same reason as above).

Dh and I have talked about when to spay/neuter our little one, and as recommended by our vet, we are going to do it no sooner than the six month mark and if a girl, before her first heat.

Again, just imo!

Barbara Nixon
21st December 2006, 07:37 PM
You may have to wait longer with a boy, because if both testicles don't drop, the op is more difficult. However, they can still drop any time up to a little over a year old, so many vets prefer to wait, thus doing a simpler procedure. The time for a dog, isn't critical ,as for a bitch.

Cathy Moon
21st December 2006, 09:27 PM
One vet told me it is safest to spay a female dog before her first heat. I believe he said the blood vessels are smaller around the uterus before the puppy goes into heat.

The vet recommended spaying India at 6 months old, and we followed his advice.

Laura&Lia
22nd December 2006, 01:06 PM
One question more (thanks for all the answers).

I'm going to spay her (uffff, my mother-in-law will be very angry with me, but is my decision!)

Yesterday i told with my vet that said me that is not so important to spay her befora her first heat, She said that sooner we do it, more weight she is going to gain!

Any of you have experienced this?

Bruce H
22nd December 2006, 01:29 PM
I don't think it's necessarily true that they gain more weight if spayed early, at least that has not been my observation. I think weight gain has more to do with how much you feed and exercise her.

I happen to agree with your vet about not being in a hurry, but for very different reasons. And I know there are a lot of other people here that disagree with me. But I like to see people wait to S/N til closer to a year old if possible and give the growth plates time to close. For some people, that's not an option for them. I will be the first to say that taking a girl though a heat cycle is no fun, especially if you have never done it before. I can't stress enough how careful you have to be to keep her away from males when she is in season; I heard someone once say they had a girl that was mated by a boy through a chain link fence :shock: I would suggest you talk to your breeder about the whole issue.

Cathy Moon
22nd December 2006, 03:05 PM
I have 2 spayed females - one was spayed at 6 months and the other (retired show girl) was spayed at 3 years. Neither of my girls is overweight; I watch their waistlines, measure their food, and make sure they get regular exercise.

Laura&Lia
24th December 2006, 10:15 AM
Thank you all for the answers!
:flwr:

Alison_Leighfield
24th December 2006, 11:32 AM
Whitney was spayed nearly a year ago after nearly dying with a nasty pyometra and full renal failure, she was 2yrs and 5 months.
There were lots of complications as well and she required specialist intensive care to pull through...one very lucky little girl to still be here.

Her coat is still lovely a year later and she has a figure to be proud of!

Ellis also has just come through a nasty pyo....and she has already had a litter a while back...so it makes no difference to let them have pups first.

Please have her spayed for her health and to avoid all these problems.

Also to just let a Cavalier have a litter without researching all the health issues like MVD and SM would be a very foolish thing to do.

Having pups is very hard work, you could also risk your own dogs life in doing so...

Alison, Wilts, U.K.

Justine
24th December 2006, 10:54 PM
How are you both.Alfs is good now and back to his normal self,it was sad to see him in pain.Anyway have a good xmas.speak to yoy soon Jus.

Laura&Lia
25th December 2006, 01:35 AM
One more question (sorry)

I don't want pups!!!!! I only ask it because i've heard that the bitches have psycological pregnancies (mmm, and my best friend's yorkshire terrier has it twice)if they've not pups.
If i spay her before her first heat, this can happen???

(sorry for bother with my questions)

Alison_Leighfield
25th December 2006, 05:17 PM
Not very likely!

None of my girls that were spayed before a season have ever had this problem, infact alot of people do spay to stop this from happening when it happens over and over again with their bitches.

Alison, Wilts, U.K.

Cathy Moon
25th December 2006, 05:29 PM
My vet said that can happen if a female is spayed too soon after a heat cycle. So if your female puppy goes into heat at 6 month of age, you must wait several weeks (maybe 6-8 weeks) after it ends before spaying. The vet said if she is spayed too soon her hormones will cause her to have false pregnancies.

When we first brought Chocolate home, we had to wait approximately 2 months to have her spayed.

Laura&Lia
25th December 2006, 09:14 PM
Ok!!!! Thanks for all posts.

Is nice to make questions here, because i know that someone is going to answer frankly.

I've talked with the vet, and we're going to spay her before her first heat!!!

:flwr:

Laura&Lia
25th December 2006, 09:21 PM
All you have to understand here in Spain, when you buy a pup, it has not spay/neuter contract.

Most of the dogs here in spain are not neutered/spayed, they can not make most of the things you can do with a dog in a lot of advanced countries (take underground, train, go to the beach (is under fine)). The problem is not in the breeder, is in the hole society!

I make this questions because here in Spain is difficult to find information about pets. When I talk with my vet I feel the sensation that she doesn't know nothing about most of important illnesses that suffer our cavaliers!!! It's frustrating. When I talk with people about the crate, or about the fact of spay her they look at me as if were nuts, or as if I were so cruel!!!

Sorry