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nangel519
18th January 2007, 07:18 PM
I just wanted to see what type everyone had? I want my puppy to not be stuck in her kennel during the day, so I thought an x-pen would work well. The metal and plastic ones make me nervous, I'm scared she is going to get something caught in the holes or climb out as she gets a little older. I like the soft-sided ones, but are they light? I don't want her sneaking out underneath.

Any advice on which I should choose or any personal experience you have on them would be great!

Linda
18th January 2007, 09:00 PM
Here is a pic of the xpen my hubby built for Dudley and we used it again for Darby.

We placed a piece of lineleum on the carpet.

We placed their crate inside it worked well for me.
Also kept little hands away.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y77/ddd123/dudleyspen.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y77/ddd123/dudleyspen2.jpg

Dottie
18th January 2007, 09:09 PM
Wow, your hubby went all out on your pen! Why do people here call them Xpens? What does the X mean? I am using a collapsable pen that I purchased at PetSmart for Dottie. It is in our kitchen, on the linoleum. So far she is doing well in it, but I figure in time she will be able to knock it down!

Lisa_T
18th January 2007, 11:54 PM
That's the problem with them. If i had more space i'd have asked my dad to do me something similar to the setup that both Linda and Cecily have, but I don't- so it was the collasiple wired ones. It's quite finicky making sure that all the unsteady bits are ramped up and I never leave Amber in it because she managed to get out of it before she was five months old!!! however, it has been invaluable the past week after her spay when she has been too sore to try and jump. It has meant I can contain her in the living room and move around into the kitchen etc without worrying about her trying for the stairs or jumping up on the sofa. But it was supported by an argos catalogue and a couple of DVD box sets..

Bruce H
19th January 2007, 12:34 AM
We use the wire kind. They have 8: 24" wide panels and will make a 4' x 4' square or can be arrangeged as an octagon, etc., etc. We have both the 30" high and 36" high. We have had the 30" pens for years and only just recently bought 2 of the 36" high. The only thing I don't like about the 36" high is that it's a little too tall to just step over if you have to get into it in a hurry.

We have never had any of our crew jump out of the 30" high, but we did hear once of someone who did. For our 2 current litters, we put two xpens together to make a 4' x 8' enclosure. It sits on a piece of sheet vinyl we laid on the floor to protect the hardwood floors. To stabilize the top on the long dimension, I took a piece of PVC pipe and cut a slot lengthwise so it slides over the pen at the joints. They say a picture is worth a thousand words:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/160/362036165_1a6472bf6b.jpg

BTW, xpen is short for exercise pen.

Dottie
19th January 2007, 12:46 AM
Exercise pen, DUH! :shock: Thanks for the info! That is the same kind we use ... makes the 4x4 square! Ours came with small black pieces that work the same as your PVC pipe. What a good idea! ;)

Kim

molly
19th January 2007, 01:49 AM
Bruce: thanks for the tip on the PVC stabilizer piece! Brilliant idea.

cavimom
19th January 2007, 03:25 AM
Here is a link to the one I have:
http://www.petedge.com/jump.jsp?itemType=INDEX&itemID=1411
I love it. It is a little light, but Lily is not able to get under it. She has however, gotten over it a few times. I should have gotten the taller one, but I thought, no way she can get over. Either way, I do like it and so does Lily. :)

Okay, I keep trying to make the link work and I can't get it. Go to petedge.com and from there navigate on the left to Exercise Pens and then click soft sided. It is the only one there. :)

judy
19th January 2007, 07:06 AM
Here is a link to the one I have:
http://www.petedge.com/jump.jsp?itemType=INDEX&itemID=1411
I love it. It is a little light, but Lily is not able to get under it. She has however, gotten over it a few times. I should have gotten the taller one, but I thought, no way she can get over. Either way, I do like it and so does Lily. :)


I really like that kind, i wish i'd known about those when i was using one when zack was younger. I had the metal kind that was collapsable and it was 30" tall, with the 24" panels (Precision). It worked great for a couple of months, until Zack suddenly was able to jump out. I wanted to get one of the tops that they sell but i couldn't find the tops for sale anywhere. i called the company but they didn't return my call when i left a message. So i gave up on the xpen and just left him in the kitchen with gates until i could trust him to just be free in the apartment.

I really like the top that goes on that soft sided one. How tall are the sides? i didn't see that info on the ad.

Bruce and Linda, what cute photos of the adorable ones! I never saw a baby picture of Dudley before, what a precious little guy. that little face peering through the fence is a great shot! Bruce, that puppy in the cardboard box is so funny! :lol:

Claire
19th January 2007, 12:44 PM
Bruce - I really like the cupboard xpen.... :D

nangel519
19th January 2007, 01:46 PM
Linda - that little face sticking out between the holes in the pen is too adorable!!

Bruce - the PVC piping is genius!

So I guess I need to worry more about the height then what type i'm going to get.

Thanks so much!

Kodee
19th January 2007, 01:58 PM
I had the metal kind that was collapsable and it was 30" tall, with the 24" panels (Precision). It worked great for a couple of months, until Zack suddenly was able to jump out.

What age was he able to jump out? I got the metal kind but I think its only 24" (I wanted the shorter so my university daughter could use it for her rabbit when I'm done). What age approx can I expect her to be able to climb/jump out - hopefully it will last till 4mths?

Linda
19th January 2007, 02:12 PM
I also have the metal ones I have 4 of them to make a fence for our caravan getaway.

Mine are 30 or 36 inch, Debbie I don't think Kody will be able to jump out at 4 months just make sure you don't keep her crate accessable to the side or she will get up on it and jump over it.

So much for me spending all that loot on the pens for up north they sit in it and look at us sitting on the deck as if to say whay the hell are you doing why have you put us in prison. :yikes :yikes :yikes

I thought they would of enjoyed being able to play as our property is not fenced up north.
Maybe they will like it this summer. :xfngr:

Kodee
19th January 2007, 03:25 PM
just make sure you don't keep her crate accessable to the side or she will get up on it and jump over it.

Oh! I never thought of that - I need to go set it up with the crate to see if it works (I was really lucky it was onsale for $45 down from $99 a few days before christmas). Oh boy I hate looking at the expense for the things I know I am not going to use for more than 4-6mths. I did get the plastic carrier you showed me which should be ok for 8mths, but then I went and added to the expense yesterday for a nice shearing pad (my husband was "what happened to using towels since we are only using it for 6mths or so). Men dont they get "the barbie dress up syndrome" some of us girls have! Really we have been married 24 yrs you'd think he'd know that answer himself by now!

I can just see your boys with indignant looks on their face to being penned! But I'm sure between walks, pen and line tie ups they get lots of play time when your camping - they are just showing you attitude like all teenagers!

Linda
19th January 2007, 03:33 PM
Debbie I bought my pens on ebay and the fellow had a storage unit on Kennedy Road and Progress.

They were only like $25.00 each.

I am bringing them home when I go up north so I can block the grass off when the ground thaws in the spring so they don't track all that mud into the house.
They can just do their business on the patio stones.

Yes their faces were absolutely pittiful, I told Frank I should go put my lounger in the pen with them.

But we are always having company when we are up north and I would look pretty stupid crawling out the gate since I can't lift my leg that high to climb over it at 36" ouch.

What we do for these fur babies. :shock: :shock:

cavimom
19th January 2007, 03:38 PM
Lily is just now 7 months and she learned to get over it at about 5 1/2 months. It is rare that she manages, and quite comical when it happens. Mine is only 24" high though. I should have gone for the 36". I am only 5'1" though and wanted to be able to easily reach over and climb over it. :)

Kodee
19th January 2007, 04:05 PM
Lily is just now 7 months and she learned to get over it at about 5 1/2 months. It is rare that she manages, and quite comical when it happens. Mine is only 24" high though. I should have gone for the 36". I am only 5'1" though and wanted to be able to easily reach over and climb over it. :)

Thanks, that's what I wanted to hear and its good news for me! 4 mths is the maximum I need to use it with an open crate inside in the kitchen so she is near all of us for socialization period. Do you all find they are steady though - I keep shaking the sides and have doubts about jumping against it making the whole thing collape and hitting her on the head :yikes

For me, I've decided to start at 16 wks the "Housetrain Your Puppy in 7 Days" concept with crating routine (I am home all day). Once we get it down to a 80% range I can block off rugged areas and leave her worry free to travel from front door to long hallway through to kitchen and into laundry room. I have puppy proofed the laundry room to use as a den area with bed or crate starting about 5 or 6 mths when I am out or totally unable to supervise.

Kodee
19th January 2007, 04:09 PM
Debbie I bought my pens on ebay and the fellow had a storage unit on Kennedy Road and Progress.

They were only like $25.00 each.

OH how jealous I am! But I am not telling my daughter who lives at ebay and kept telling me to search stuff there first!

As for "what we do for these babies" well, you know our children led the way for the dogs by training us parents first!

Linda
19th January 2007, 04:11 PM
One more wkd. :D :D :D :D :D

But I would never imagine that you are counting the days. :yikes :yikes :yikes

Kodee
19th January 2007, 04:15 PM
One more wkd. :D :D :D :D :D

But I would never imagine that you are counting the days. :yikes :yikes :yikes

Oh you know too well how excited I am! I seem to be able to only look up doggie infor on the internet or go stand in pet stores for hours this wk. Literally I cant seem to do anything else! Oh its going to be a very very long 7 days I think...

Linda
19th January 2007, 04:36 PM
One more wkd. :D :D :D :D :D

But I would never imagine that you are counting the days. :yikes :yikes :yikes

Oh you know too well how excited I am! I seem to be able to only look up doggie infor on the internet or go stand in pet stores for hours this wk. Literally I cant seem to do anything else! Oh its going to be a very very long 7 days I think...


You will survive, I did and so did everybody else.
It just seems like it is going to be forever but it will go by really really
slooooooooooooooooow. ;) ;) ;) :yikes :yikes :yikes
Go shovel your driveway. ;) ;) ;)

Kodee
19th January 2007, 04:41 PM
Go shovel your driveway. ;) ;) ;)
Heavens NO! Shoveling and doggie doo pick up is the hubby's forest! I'll compromise and go read one of the 3 new dog books I have with a nice cup of coffee ;)

Jen
19th January 2007, 05:33 PM
Here's the one we used for Gus. We're not using it anymore, but it's nice to have just in case...or if we get another pup at some point.
This one can also form an octagon, and you can also buy extra panels for it to make it bigger.


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y166/Abbeymae/IMG_1450.jpg

nangel519
19th January 2007, 05:37 PM
Jen - I've been looking at the plastic ones. How long did you use it for Gus? He didn't learn how to climb out of it?

judy
19th January 2007, 05:41 PM
I had the metal kind that was collapsable and it was 30" tall, with the 24" panels (Precision). It worked great for a couple of months, until Zack suddenly was able to jump out.
ot the metal kind but I think its only 24" (I wanted the shorter so my univer
What age was he able to jump out? I gsity daughter could use it for her rabbit when I'm done). What age approx can I expect her to be able to climb/jump out - hopefully it will last till 4mths?


I wish i could remember what age that was. I think about 6 months, and probably had more to do with hormones than anything, he was getting into a more adventurous mentality at that age. It migt have been 24" high. but the pen was by the kitchen table which was 30" high on the bottom, and i watched him spring straight up in the air and land on that table, and freedom, I had to get 48" high gates for the kitchen so that even if he jumped on the table, he still wouldn't be able to jump over. [/i]

WoodHaven
19th January 2007, 05:47 PM
Jen - I've been looking at the plastic ones. How long did you use it for Gus? He didn't learn how to climb out of it?

It isn't an easy X-pen to climb. Ours started to be able to jump over it at 7 months. Some cavaliers are natural born monkeys-- some will not jump over anything higher than a step.

Jen
19th January 2007, 05:48 PM
Jen - I've been looking at the plastic ones. How long did you use it for Gus? He didn't learn how to climb out of it?

He was 8 months old when we stopped using it and moved onto baby gates instead....still using 2 of them at 10 months old now.
He didn't try climbing out of it, but he'd try to push/slide it around. He's a Schnauzer---he's faster than Abbey our Cav, but he doesn't like to jump like she does--she jumps over anything and everything! :lol:

Moviedust
19th January 2007, 05:49 PM
No one tell my girls they can get out of their xpen. Both are over a year old and they stay inside their pens without so much as a bother!

Jen
19th January 2007, 05:57 PM
Target has them:

http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html/sr=1-3/qid=1169229453/ref=sr_1_3/601-6308035-3662515?ie=UTF8&asin=B00020L78M

WoodHaven
19th January 2007, 06:04 PM
Yes, but the farm supply places sell them for less- I paid 48 USD for the last one I purchased. Sandy

Kodee
19th January 2007, 06:21 PM
Some cavaliers are natural born monkeys--
Who posted that picture here of the cavalier hanging off the childproof gate! I love that picture :lol:

cavimom
19th January 2007, 06:29 PM
I have been thinking of getting rid of the soft sided one I bought to get plastic. Lily is getting to curious about its movements and I think any day now she will figure out if she jumps hard enough it will go over!

Jen
19th January 2007, 06:49 PM
Yes, but the farm supply places sell them for less- I paid 48 USD for the last one I purchased. Sandy

That's a great price! Check used baby stores and Craigslist.com as well--I managed to score one for $25 off there last year. I love that site!

Linda
19th January 2007, 06:56 PM
Some cavaliers are natural born monkeys--
Who posted that picture here of the cavalier hanging off the childproof gate! I love that picture :lol:

That was Arthur

Duncans Mom that pic is priceless

estertje
20th January 2007, 12:54 PM
Sam climbed out when he was still with his mum at 6 weeks! :yikes
I don't use an X-pen, we don't have enough space and when we leave we just leave him in the kitchen, there is nothing that can harm him or that he can break or chew on, so that's a good alternative.

Bruce H
20th January 2007, 07:21 PM
Oh boy I hate looking at the expense for the things I know I am not going to use for more than 4-6mths.

Are you SURE you will never use it after that?? We bring a couple xpens with whenever we go on vacation so the dogs can go in there without us having them on a lead at all times. I would NEVER leave them unattended, but in an xpen they do have a little more freedom. Last summer when we were at the Duluth dog show, I set up a lawn chair inside the xpens on a nice day and read a book while the dogs played inside the pen. None of our puppies or adults have even tried scaling our 30" pens.

Kodee
20th January 2007, 07:35 PM
Are you SURE you will never use it after that?? We bring a couple xpens with whenever we go on vacation so the dogs can go in there without us having them on a lead at all times. I would NEVER leave them unattended, but in an xpen they do have a little more freedom. Last summer when we were at the Duluth dog show, I set up a lawn chair inside the xpens on a nice day and read a book while the dogs played inside the pen. None of our puppies or adults have even tried scaling our 30" pens.

oh :( we never go on vacation - every one post tears for me now! We used to visit my parents country place where our lab had acres and was loose with us present. This time round, I wont let a dog off line in parks etc because I dont trust my training ability to that level to get a dog that behaved! Indoor doggie parks etc will have to do for me! But we have a nice large fenced backyard.

I wanted the smaller height so it could be used again. My daugher away at university has wanted one for her pet fuzzy american rabbit who I tell you thinks he is a dog. By getting the shorter one, she can have it after. I was just worried it would be too small for Kody.

The rabbit litterbox trained himself at 12 wks - out 5hrs a day, never an accident - why cant puppies be this easy :lol: