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Maxwell&me
26th February 2007, 10:46 PM
O.K, So this is driving me NUTS. I know somewhere I read a peice about all black Cavaliers, and for the life of me I cant find the Info. Ive looked in my books and now Im thinking I saw something about them on a breeder website ?

Gosh, this is just driving me crazy. Do any of you know any info on them or perhaps came across the same article I did? Any info would be great, as we do now have a photo on this site showing one, and Im courious to find out any info on them.

enchantingdragon
26th February 2007, 11:03 PM
I dont know her screen name but one member here has an all black Cavalier She even posted pics Ill see if I can remember the name

*Pauline*
26th February 2007, 11:11 PM
Yes, I've seen the pics here too, I have been searching for you but can't remember the thread or who posted it. :flwr:

Jana
26th February 2007, 11:23 PM
This thread?
http://www.cavaliertalk.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=7862

Kimmisue
26th February 2007, 11:24 PM
Hi guys

It's me it's me :D

Missy was a rescue so I do not have any information on how to purchase one.

I will say one thing she is so sweet..we wouldn't ever part with her.

Maxwell&me
26th February 2007, 11:29 PM
Gosh, those are the two beautiful dogs I was talking about....and just so we are all clear, Im not in the market... :roll: Ive got my hands full!

I guess the reason I wanted to know more about them is becouse I remember reading something about these dogs, something about their ancestors and I cant find the darn article....I just thought it was facinating reading and wanted to share it with you special people that have these dogs.....*sigh* Im still looking but not having much luck finding it again in my dog file on my computer...I think there is one more of you also, a very well known showing gal that has one..... :flwr:

molly
26th February 2007, 11:46 PM
Oh Kim! I remember that thread about sweet Missy (formerly Sassy). I fell in love with the pictures you put up and was so glad when you decided to keep her. She is darling.

http://www.cavaliertalk.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=6104&highlight=missy

Maxwell&me
26th February 2007, 11:52 PM
She really is CUTE....O.K. Now Im just facinated....Hopefully Karlin will pipe in on the history...Hopefully someone knows something becouse Im smitten.
( Not in the market, just smitten gals.... :D )

enchantingdragon
26th February 2007, 11:58 PM
Member Karen S also seems to have an all black Cavalier too His name is Cooper and she was the one I was thinking of though Missy is a doll too!

Here is here intro link

http://cavaliertalk.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=7043

And pics of Cooper

http://cavaliertalk.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=7045

http://cavaliertalk.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=7130&highlight=

Maxxs_Mummy
27th February 2007, 12:34 AM
There's a bit of info on them here

http://cavalierkingcharles.com/history.html

Apparently they were called Gredins - this translates as rascal or rogue - couldn't have thought of a better sentiment myself - all Cavaliers are little rascals though :lol:

Karen S.
27th February 2007, 01:37 AM
I found this site. It might be helpful.

http://dhvg.ckcs-kcs.dyndns.org/pdf/ankie_Notes_EN.pdf

Nisha
27th February 2007, 06:28 AM
yea i have a friend with two beautiful black cavaliers! im not actually sure if she rescued or got them through a breeder though :? .... is it just luck if a black cav is born in a litter therefore them being rare? or do they have some other breed in them?

inca
27th February 2007, 09:26 AM
[quote="Nisha" is it just luck if a black cav is born in a litter therefore them being rare? or do they have some other breed in them?[/quote]

if they are purebred then its a genitic fault ( sorry )

i have seen one many years ago in a litter where 4 were black and tan and one just black and missed the tan very cute all the same :)

Nisha
27th February 2007, 10:16 AM
:p thanks for clearing that up

Jana
27th February 2007, 10:38 AM
I know, that these rare colours do not fit the statndard. But I still find it adorable. Especially like those dark chocholate colours. This website http://www.cochrancav.com/ had sometimes pictures of B&T and tricolor chocholate cavaliers, who have deep brown instead of black. They have also brown noses and light eyes.
I am dreaming... icon_whistling

Karen S.
27th February 2007, 03:44 PM
Cooper was sired by a black/tan and his dam was ruby. He was the first born. His 3 siblings were solid rubies and non of them survived more than a few days.
I would love to see a chocolate. I didn't know they existed.

Daisy's Mom
27th February 2007, 05:39 PM
I think the all-black ones are absolutely gorgeous. That shiny, silky, fur -- yum! If there were a safe way to add a solid black to the other standard color varieties, I'd sign up for one. (In fact, I think they'd be my 2nd favorite after Blenheims!)

Karen S.
27th February 2007, 06:12 PM
I would love to add the black back in as a color. I think one of the reasons AKC decided not to recognize it anymore was because you couldn't see that "Cavalier" expression that they are so famous for.
It's a shame because there are other solid black breeds.

Cathy Moon
28th February 2007, 03:46 AM
I've enjoyed this thread and the links immensely! Wow, two members with black cavaliers! They are lovely. :)

Nisha, if you ever have the opportunity, it would be wonderful if you could get photos of your friend's black cavaliers. :)

Nisha
28th February 2007, 06:21 AM
Nisha, if you ever have the opportunity, it would be wonderful if you could get photos of your friend's black cavaliers.

i will the next i go up and see her.....we dont live close to each other...she lives in Canberra which is about 4 hours away...and i usually only go up in the holidays....so if i do ill take some shots.........or i could get her to email me some.. :flwr: