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freesia
27th February 2007, 02:36 PM
What is the best size cage to get please?

Harry & Heidi's mom
27th February 2007, 02:56 PM
hi,

the largest you have room for,

Harry was crated for the 1st year of his life, and he loved it my son is very hyperactive and having the crate gave Harry somewhere to go for some "leave me alone" time

just noticed you live in Durham, i'm not that far from you (south shields)

Ste
27th February 2007, 03:07 PM
[quote="Harry's mom"]hi,

my son is very hyperactive and having the crate [quote]

I thought that sentence was going to finish with ''means i have somewhere to put him too''

:oops:

Crittercall
27th February 2007, 03:36 PM
The crate should be as big as the dog will be able to use when he/she is full grown. When the dog is a puppy, you can take part of a cardboard box, etc., to block off the back part of the crate so that the puppy can't soil part of the crate then get away from it - that's a bad habit. 8)

Harry & Heidi's mom
27th February 2007, 03:51 PM
I thought that sentence was going to finish with ''means i have somewhere to put him too''

:oops:

Ha ha ha ha ha i didn't have to lock him in there, he used to go in and play with Harry, but understood when Harry was asleep to leave him alone.

But believe me, there were (and still are) days when i could lock my son up lol

freesia
27th February 2007, 04:56 PM
Thank you, lol I thought you were going to say the crate was for the bairn as well.

Yep we are not too far away from each other, small world

:D

Harry & Heidi's mom
27th February 2007, 05:41 PM
do you have your cavalier yet??

moniechris
27th February 2007, 06:27 PM
I have a crate that is large enough for a boxer (it was given to me by a friend) and my three cavies all snuggle in there together and just love it. If your cavie is full grown then get one large enough for your dogs to be able to stand erect and move around.

If you are getting a puppy, then I would get one that could be blocked off (like Donna mentioned) because it will make potty training very difficult if they can potty on one side and sleep on the other. Dogs instinctively like to keep their sleeping quarters clean and will try to hold it if the crate is small enough (yet still large enough for them to stand errect and move around normally).


Good luck!

freesia
27th February 2007, 07:04 PM
Not ready to get one yet. I'm still saving hard for one, not really sure how much I will need. Seen loads advertised at around £450 but I don't want to make a mistake, so not sure if this is what they normally go for or a few hundred more? Just reading up about them and trying to find out as much as I can.

Looking at training, insurance, that sort of thing.

Didn't know about the scratching thing, until I came on this site (sorry cannot remember the name of it) so I'm picking things up.

When I'm ready to buy one, I hope the vet or some of you nice people can point me in the right direction for one.



:D

Harry & Heidi's mom
27th February 2007, 08:10 PM
hiya,

have sent you a private message.

Kodee
27th February 2007, 08:20 PM
Ideally, if Kodee (12 wks) were to continue using her crate as an adult I would have preferred the 24" x 30". I have the 18" x 24". It fits perfectly where I need the crate to go. It will also fit an adult for travel - just maybe too small should she still want to sleep in it instead of a bed when she is older if she ends up on the larger average size. (personally I will motivate her to switch to a bed at about 1yr and save it for travel only). If you have room for the larger I think its the best bet. Also do a search, someone on here posted nice pictures of a grate my size with covers showing a 1yr old and her older dog in it to give you an idea.

Caraline
27th February 2007, 10:48 PM
The bigger the better!

freesia
28th February 2007, 09:24 AM
We thought maybe a 36" but not sure if that's big enough, so how about a 48"

It's going to be a while before I get a puppy but we have chosen a name already. My youngest who is 12yrs has even been asking her friends, she is so excited about it all. When we get her she is going to be called Bella. :D

Caraline
28th February 2007, 10:21 AM
The crate I have for my guys is 42" x 26" x 27" but I do admit it is a hand-me-down from the Boxers. It really is huge for the Cavaliers but they love it. There is plenty of room to walk around, roll over, pick a different spot to lay in, and to snuggle up to a couple of others in there as well.

I think you need to look at the spot you will be putting the crate in. There is no point having a huge crate if it is so big that it is a nuisance in the room, but on the other hand if you do have the room, it is nice to have a large one.

I'd forget about the house crate doubling as a travelling crate. It just isn't practical in my opinion. For my car, I just got the biggest plastic one that would fit on my back seat and it is considerably smaller than the house crate, but still big enought that 2 CKCSs would be comfortable in it.

Some people will tell you to buy a small crate for a puppy as it is easier to toilet train them in it, but that has not been my experience. No matter how big the bed, my guys just don't like peeing in it. If this did become a problem then it is easy to divide the crate up into smaller sections by sliding some boards through the bars. These can easily be removed when the puppy can be trusted not to pee in his bed (if in fact he does).

Molly's mom
28th February 2007, 05:10 PM
We just got a 24x30 for Molly to recoop from her SM surgery in and it's a great size for her, plenty big. She's approx 14lbs and almost 2. There's room for blankies, a couple toys and we have a water dish attached.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/135/405818244_d345f43972_m.jpg

Kodee
28th February 2007, 05:29 PM
We just got a 24x30 for Molly to recoop from her SM surgery in and it's a great size for her, plenty big. She's approx 14lbs and almost 2. There's room for blankies, a couple toys and we have a water dish attached.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/135/405818244_d345f43972_m.jpg
Oh seeing how comfy your dog is makes me wish I could have fit that size where the crate needs to be! Hopefully Kodee will make the switch to a bed once she is older or be on the small size of a cavalier! I only use hers for night and long (over 1 hr) car trips (she has a smaller plastic one for in-town travel). IF I had to do it over starting out, I would get the 24x30 crate and one size up in the plastic one for the car too (I got petmate intermediate, should have gotten large).

Lisa_T
1st March 2007, 01:11 PM
Did I read that right? £450 for a crate? Argos do a fantastic medium sized one for £36 or so. I have that one as it is perfect for two Cavs, as well as another that the breeders lent to me which is bigger again :yikes . I would really recommend the Argos crate for the house, and an ordinary plastic crate for the car. The one I currently use for Amber is from Petsmart and cos t £21 or so.

Harry & Heidi's mom
1st March 2007, 01:32 PM
[quote="Lisa_T"]Did I read that right? £450 for a crate?[quote]

No she ment the cost of a pup :oops: icon_whistling

Maxxs_Mummy
1st March 2007, 01:51 PM
[quote="Harry's mom"]hi,

my son is very hyperactive and having the crate [quote]

I thought that sentence was going to finish with ''means i have somewhere to put him too''

:oops:


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Ste, I have a stitch from laughing now! My eldest son has the same 'disorder' as Heather's little man and believe me, they are such hard work that sometimes you feel like getting in a cage and shutting the door yourself! Fortunately, they do tend to get easier as they get older ;)

Heather, I wonder, do you find the same as I did with my eldest that animals actually soothe them and calm them down? At my youngest's high school, the SEN co-ordinators offices are in a building that is attached to the outside of the school. Very often the kids who need extra help and get frustrated etc are sent over there for some 'quiet time'. One of the co-ordinators was telling me that sometimes the kids go in and are really kicking off but now a neighbourhood cat has taken to going in and visiting. She really calms the kids down too so they welcome her with open arms :flwr:

I mean, it is a well documented fact that dolphins have an effect on humans but other animals are obviously good at sensing things too :flwr:

Lisa_T
1st March 2007, 01:58 PM
I've seen this in several schools. During my first teaching placement, the school had such a unit, only in this case it was primarily intended as a supporting unit for those kids who had Asperger's, but I think it was also a general SEN resource. They're generally better at differentiation in England than they are here in NI (hum, DfES might have somethng to do with that...). During my second placement I remember asking the HoD what the differentiation protocols were and he looked at me and said, "You don't need differentiation. They're already streamed..."- in England that would have caused screams of protest!

On the other hand, do NOT get me started on one-size-fits-all integration. Grrr.

Harry & Heidi's mom
1st March 2007, 02:04 PM
Ha ha ha ha donna, yes i find that Harry helps mark to calm down and focus on something when he's having a really bad day.
Harry seems to sense that mark is stressed and comforts him, he can also tell when mark needs to let off steam so their daft hour starts and they are diving all over together, racing up and down the stairs and stuff!

Any excuse to add another dog to our family lol

Maxxs_Mummy
1st March 2007, 02:08 PM
Any excuse to add another dog to our family lol

Oh yeah, go for it ;)

freesia
1st March 2007, 05:17 PM
Molly's mom, that is a great help seeing Molly in the crate, it gives a better idea of the size. Will definitely be going for the 36", because it will fit in just nice without moving anything.

There was a programme on the tv not so long ago that I wanted to watch about a child who was autistic(think he was autistic) His parents got him a puppy and it helped him tremendously. I missed the programme, wished I had seen it. Maybe the dogs can sense what the children need.

Harry & Heidi's mom
1st March 2007, 05:18 PM
i watched that programme the dog was called Thomas (after thomas the tank engine) was fantastic!!

freesia
2nd March 2007, 05:25 PM
That's the one.

freesia
28th March 2007, 08:22 AM
I have the cage now, got a 36". Will this size need dividing to make it smaller to start with or is it ok as it is?

Only two weeks to go now and Barney will be with us :D :D

Going to see him again on Thursday, can't wait. When I phoned up she said they were play fighting now. :D :D Will get some more piccies and put them in the puppy section.

Mom_of_2_Cavies
28th March 2007, 02:18 PM
That will be a palace-sized crate for your full grown Cav!!!! :lol: The largest crate I have is 30" and it's plenty roomy.

But yes, I would definitely use the divider that should have come with it to make a smaller, cozier space for your new pup, and for housebreaking.

freesia
28th March 2007, 05:05 PM
Thanks Pat, but there is no divider that came with it, I will just have to make my own. Would half way be too much?

Mom_of_2_Cavies
28th March 2007, 09:56 PM
Some people just put a cardboard box in there (which I imagine works great until the pup starts to chew on it!). I would think 18 inches might be about right. Once your baby is in there you will probably see right away whether you have it the right size or not, and you can adjust if necessary.