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katc10
20th March 2007, 05:00 AM
We just got a new puppy 3 weeks ago, and he is so BAD! Out first was such an angel, sure she had her potty-training issues, but she was so good compared to Charlie! He won't ever potty outside. We walk him for 15 minutes or more outside, and nothing. But within 5 minutes of bringing him in the house, he will pee on the carpet. He has made some progress with it the last few days, I would take him out and sit at the bottom of the stairs, and he would go eventually. But today he's back to the same old (I'm sure the fact that it was a weekend made some difference).

Also, we have been leaving him with his kennel in the hallway to the bathroom with the bathroom door open, that way he has some carpet space to play or sleep, but can potty on the linoleum in the bathroom. But Friday when I came home he had torn up the carpet!
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/166/423551418_1666aa45b5.jpg

I covered the carpet area today with a rug hoping he would leave it alone, but came home to see he tore apart more today! Now it's beyond repair (which means they take it out of our security deposit :x ) and he also tore apart the bath towel we use in his kennel (he pees in his kennel and then sleeps in it most nights, so I have been using towels instead of the bed we bought him, another thing our girl never did).

And the thing I don't get, is he KNOWS what he does is wrong. He gets that sad face as soon as he sees you seeing what he did. So it's not like he doesn't know it's wrong! I just don't know what to do with him! Can anyone please offer some advice??? He's just so horrible! :(

Kodee
20th March 2007, 06:26 AM
Your dog's not horrible at all, but he is confused. He looks sad when you see him do it because he knows your not pleased but he doenst associate your displeasure over him soiling his crate. He has not made the connection he is to go outside.

1. His scent is all over himself which is only putting his scent back on a clean towel so he smells it - therefore thinks its where he is to go.

2. Was he raised in a kennel where he had no option but to go in a crate? He may not realize he is to go elsewhere.

3. Besides just taking him out and sitting on the steps do you take time to make it an enjoyable outing and praise him for going with a treat and kind words.

4. Dont scold him for mistakes, ignore him, clean it with an enzyme cleaner.

5. When you are home take him out every 30min.

6. You can buy sprays which encourage them where to go that can be used outside if he needs a helping hand understanding where to go

7. Puppies will be puppies, mine has chewed the edge on 3 area mats right through and she is not out of my site a minute. Left alone you must put them in an area where there arent any rugs and use apple bitter spray on things you dont want chewed - it tastes horrid to most dogs.

8. If your dog believes he pleases you he will look to please you more. I hope you dont really think your dog is bad or horrid! Its obvious he isnt, he is just untrained. Training falls on you.

9. Buy "How to housetrain you dog in 7 days" look on amazon.com

10. Sign up now for training classes where alot of this behaviour will be explained to you, so you can train him so he is happy.

Caraline
20th March 2007, 07:55 AM
Nah, he's not horrible, he's just a baby and it is up to you to give him some clear guidance, and some time to learn it. At that age he doesn't know that ripping up the carpet is the wrong thing to do. By the time you get home from work he has probably all but forgotten about doing it anyway. His sorry look is because he know you are mad with him right this minute, and he does not link this up with the carpet destruction.

Kalin has put together some excellent articles to teach humans how to guide their puppies. You'll find them at http://www.cavaliertalk.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=9 :flwr:

Alison_Leighfield
20th March 2007, 02:40 PM
Can I ask....are you home most of the day with this little one to show him some sort of routine? or is he left for long periods of time alone?

Alison.

katc10
20th March 2007, 03:17 PM
Well he has people home, because we all leave at different times of the day, but I know a lot of this is due to us having to work and not being home with him. Indy was the same way kinda, "good" on the weekends and "bad" during the week. I used to work close enough to home to come home at lunch to play with her, take he out, etc, but we live further away now and I rely on my roommate to do my job in the afternoon (which he does).

I know he's not horrible, I know he's just a puppy, I just get so frustrated sometimes and need to vent. icon_blshing And it's even more frustrating that he destroyed the carpet beyond repair :?

I know he'll learn eventually, and honestly the bad potty isn't the worst part, it's just the destructive behavior I'm not sure how to deal with.

And to respond to Kodee:
1. Should I get some of those bath wipes to clean him when he does it?
2. He was raised in an outdoor "playpen" and there was a dog house for all the puppies.
3. Yes, I bring a treat with me and use my sweet voice and pet him and tell him "Charlie go potty, good boy go potty" like we did with Indy. And I like sitting on the stairs instead of walking him cause he seems to get less disctracted. When we walk him, he doesn't potty, so this way seems to give him the time to realize why we're there and he takes care of business sooner.
4. The training books he's made say if you catch them in the act you're supposed to scold them by saying "bad" or "bad potty" and then show them what's good instead. Is this not recommended by Cav owners? Also, is there an Enzyme cleaner you recommend? We have a Woolite pet cleaner spray we use, it seems to work better than the last thing we got a PetSmart.
5. We do take him out frequently. Sometimes he just doesn't want to go.
6. Is that spray available at PetSmart? I think I'll try to look for some after work today.
7. Once again, is that available at PetSmart?
8. I can tell he wants to please me, and even when he bad potties, he seems to self-punish, and he will come sit by my feet after and look sad. I know he MEANS WELL.
9. I have Dog Training for Dummies. Any good?
10. I'll check out the classes available locally.

Thanks everyone for your input! :D

Karlin
20th March 2007, 03:20 PM
A dog NEVER 'knows' that it has done wrong -- a dog's mind is not capable of forethought like this. He DOES know that you seem upset and has no idea why but is fearful and reacting to your anger. Thus he may look 'guilty' but this is fear.

Please get Shirlee Kalstone's book on housetraining a dog -- this will help you deal with this situation and many others and give you schedules for different home situations and help you go thru this important training period. :)

You need to remember a puppy is only a baby and has no idea that going inside is wrong and that he should go outside EXCEPT if you give him the right motiviation and reward for doing so, at which point he will gradually learn. A little puppy is way too young to be consistently able to go outdoors -- some manage this but it is VERY, VERY rare. So please do not feel anger and frustration at a puppy who is only being absolutely normal! Again, the Kalstone book will teach you how to train thru motivation, not punishment; using the latter tends to confuse dogs and make problems like this WORSE. :thmbsup: For example if you punish in any way after the fact he has absolutely no idea why you are suddenly doing this -- he will not connect it with the fact that he went indoors, especially not if someone uses discredited and cruel approaches like rubbing noses in their poop and so on (no one would do this to a human toddler, who is a lot more intelligent than a puppy but also would have absolutely no idea why a parent would do such a thing and only grow feerful of the parent's erratic behaviour. Funny how we think a little puppy will make a connection a toddler can't! Sometimes you have to back up and try to think in 'dog logic' which is a lot different from human logic! :))

In a nutshell: it is up to you to keep the pup under such a close eye that he never, ever gets the chance to go inside. This means if he hasn;t gone when outside, then he must be in your arms, on your lap, within arm's reach, or crated until the next time you take him out. At the point that he goes praise lavishly and reward well with a bit of cheese or hot dog or a similar high value treat. Then repeat. A dog this young is way too young to ever be allowed out of sight.

Puppies also destroy things -- just as toddlers break toys etc in the process of exploring their world. If the puppy is bored -- eg left alone for long periods -- it will be a lot more likely to find entertain,ment in destroying things. Chewing carpets or furniture is very normal behaviour up til age 1 or more -- therefore you need to keep your puppy in an area where he has no opportunity to destory anything you value (that also means do not leave shoes, socks, clothing, anything valuable on the floor or within reach). Puppies also are growing new teeth and NEED to chew. Which means he needs appropriate chew toys in an area where he can;t opt for substitutes like carpetting.

I'd strongly recommend getting this book:

http://www.amazon.com/Before-After-Getting-Your-Puppy/dp/1577314557/ref=pd_sim_b_5/104-1490033-5137505

which will take you through the developmental stages puppies go through and give some great guidance on training too.

Karlin
20th March 2007, 03:25 PM
Oops, posted that first reply while you were posting your answers so some of my questions you've covered.

Still generally: A puppy has a very hard time left alone all day -- especially this breed -- is there any way someone can come midday to take him ourt or you can take him at least a few times a week to a doggie daycare facility?

While this is 'destructive' behaviour from our viewpoint -- it is actually normal puppy play and some 'boredom' behaviour for a dog -- and for him right now, it is more interesting to stay occupied in shredding things or chewing things than with whatever toys you are leaving for him. It is frustrating but the goal is to find him other things that are more entertaining and eliminate the possibility for the behaviour you do not want -- eg don;t keep him in an area where he can access carpet to chew, for example.

Have you read about Kongs and could you leave one of these for him? Have you read up on other things that could be done to keep him busy?

Can you get a daily dog walker in or one of you get home midday every day (a puppy needs a midday break as does an adult dog -- this is simply too long to for him to last alone 5 days a week). How long is he generally left alone at a stretch before your roommate can take him out?

You will have more problems housetraining because he isn't getting any consistent message right now on what to do. It will probably take a bit longer than otherwise.

arasara
20th March 2007, 03:57 PM
This is what I just went through.. and how I dealt with it (the potty training perspective)

I just picked up my puppy on the 30th of January. Her foster mom told me that I was most likely going to have the hardest time on earth potty training her - she didn't seem to make the connection.

When she came home I decided to take her out every 15 minutes.. maybe excessive, but she went outside enough times and I was able to go out there with her that she got the connection. She would go potty and I would literally kneel down on the grass and take her up in my arms and give her love and hugs and kisses.. When we came inside I went to my other half and said "guess who was a good girl?!" And he would give her praise too.. Even after she went I would take her out on the 15 minute intervals when she was up and playing. When she slept I would let her sleep but immediately upon awaking we went right back outside. She goes out when she wakes up, when she's done eating, before bed, after playing, etc.. all the time! lol

She's now 17 weeks and I still am waking up one time in the middle of the night with her to go out to go pee.

I did find that I had to watch how much water she drank and when she drank it. I will let her drink for a good 10 seconds and then squeak a toy or something to play with her so she doesn't get too much. Too much water means LOTSA peeing.. :| I still watch her like a hawk - she's under constant supervision. Things are still not perfect but in the last 2 weeks we've had 1 accident - pretty good for a little one who would pee every 15 minutes 6 weeks ago! :)

katc10
20th March 2007, 05:11 PM
That you for your advise. I know a lot of this already, and we already try to do most of what has been suggested, especially monitoring the drinking, and we feed on a schedule, so he eats all at once, and we take him to potty shortly after. Schedule wise, I leave around 7am, so Charlie comes out with me to play and potty, then my boyfriend is up at 9 and leaves at 10, and my roommate leaves for work at 2. At the latest we are back at 7pm, and I'm usually home a few hours before that. I do leave the Kong for him, but he honestly doesn't seem to keen on any of his toys, so I'm never sure what to leave with him, and I can't leave him everything, or Indy would have nothing to play with. ;)

And as for the him looking sad when I'm mad, that's not even the case. I don't get mad and yell and then he looks sad, he looks sad and I have to go find what he did wrong. Or with the carpet, as soon as Toan saw it, he didn't even get upset or yell, Charlie ran to the corner to hide. And Indy is the same way, as soon as she knows we see something she did bad, without getting upset or anything, she punishes herself by going to her house. I guess that's a lot of it too, the fact that she was pretty easy, makes it seem that much harder with Charlie. I've heard than neutering makes males calm down a lot, does that hold true with Cavs? We plan to neuter him, I'm just wondering if it will make any difference. We also decided to put him in the kitchen. He has taken to pooping there if he does it inside anyway (which is desirable to us, rather he does it on the linoleum than the carpet). I'm just afraid he will then chew the cabinets there, which means bye bye to more of the deposit. So I'm not sure the best place to put him where he can't destroy anything, other than in his kennel. :(

I'm going to PetSmart today after work to see what aids I can find.

arasara
20th March 2007, 05:25 PM
are you referring to leaving? How old is he? You are leaving him to run throughout the house?!

In my honest opinion that's a huge mistake! :yikes I would never trust Faith (17 weeks) on her own in my house while I am gone. That gives her the opportunity to pee and or poo wherever she wants and also it's really unsafe. God only knows what she would find to get into. I don't want to take the chance with my cupboards, carpets, coffee tables etc. If he's still teething he'll chew anything!

I recommend getting an X pen to leave him in while you are out. That's at least a safe environment for him.

Puppies need to be monitered 100% of the time when they are "out and about." Faith is never allowed out of my site in the house for the simple reason that I don't know what she is doing. I believe that 90% of potty training comes from catching them in the act!

katc10
20th March 2007, 05:33 PM
Oh no, he is always confined when we leave the house. Indy has free reign of the house when we leave, but she has earned that privelege. Charlie is always in his kennel or in the kitchen or bathroom using the baby gate (but I don't like leaving him in the kitchen this way because he can squeeze out under the toe kick between the cabinet and the gate, wraskelly little bugger!).

Kodee
20th March 2007, 07:59 PM
Everything I learned with my first child I had to throw out the window with my second. No 2 are alike and that applies to puppies. I still think he's start in life my have been where he had no choice but to relieve himself in a crate. He has no idea the outdoors is for toileting.

You need an expen or gates he cant get through to confine him to a tile floor area with his crate open. He needs maybe an nylon bone, kong filled with kibble mixed with a bit of cheese whiz and one or two toys. Enzyme cleaner if you dont have it and bitter apple spray.

I know its frustrating but your expecting a lot from him at this age. They dont even have the muscle control to hold it till 16 wks. Up till then accidents are due to human error for not getting him out or being close enough to watch for the signs he is going to go.

katc10
20th March 2007, 08:32 PM
I'll try getting a better setup in the kitchen figured out. And I'm going to the store today to get some spray. I know he can't hold it, and like I said before, I don't hold it against him for pottying, I know he can't hold it. And I know it's our responsibility to take him out, not his to tell us he needs to go out (for now at least ;) ). Like I said before, I'm just frustrated when he doesn't go outside but then goes immediately inside, or him destroying the carpet despite having toys. I'm not an ignorant owner, just unprepared for these trials and tribulations, and looking for some helpful words.

I never got a response about the cleaning wipes (Kodee mentioned that if he pees in his bed, the smell from him transfers to the new bedding and he might still associate it with being ok to pee there and I wondered if getting some of those bath wipes might help the problem if I don't have time to bathe him every time it happens). What do you think of that?

Kodee
20th March 2007, 08:51 PM
I wondered if getting some of those bath wipes might help the problem if I don't have time to bathe him every time it happens). What do you think of that?
Bathing him all the time is way to time consuming - I dont think anyone could handle that. I use a make at petsmart called Petkins puppy wipes - gentle but have vit e, lanolin - they sure make Kodee smell nice and keep her coat shiny. Worth a try. I also spray the enzyme on the towels I use to clean up any messes and leave for a bit before washing them. I know when Sara got Faith she had to take her out pretty much every 20-30 min as she had been forced to go in a crate while being transported. The xpen should make all happier for a bit.

Oh I had another thought. I used to hide treats in Kodees crate so she would go in and out of it and think of it as her special place. It might make him not want to soil it. Plus with the xpen, by not being locked in it in day time, he will choose to soil the floor if need be - put papers down and take away one at a time till you get him going in one area. You put a piece of soiled under new to attrack them to the papers instead of just on the floor in the xpen anywhere.

frecklesmom
20th March 2007, 08:53 PM
I know this will be of no help but I swear some dogs really feel that anything lose should be chewed-kind of "safety inspectors". Freckles came from a puppy mill,so,even tho' he was older, he did many puppy things. He would not leave carpet alone if it was a throw or had a corner to pick up. I gave up on any throws and, :yikes , nailed the corners of the rug under the table. He has not touched that rug since I nailed it . Maybe the texture feels good to them, who knows. I get the feeling sometimes they're saying "Yep, I'm a dog and this is what I do" and we have to say "But, not in MY house" and go on with positive training. Things will get better, time is on your side.

katc10
20th March 2007, 10:17 PM
Thats everyone, I'll keep you posted on our progress! :D

Cathy T
21st March 2007, 04:40 AM
Debbie - you couldn't have said it better!! Shelby was absolutely nothing like Jake. He was a real pill (love him to death...but he was a pill) and Shelby was so easy.

The wipes....we have those or I use a tub of baby wipes. When Jake had tummy problems....we used a lot of baby wipes :roll:

Mom_of_2_Cavies
21st March 2007, 05:44 PM
I just wanted to reinforce what was highlighted in one post, which is that your puppy was apparently raised outdoors, and so his new indoors is his old outdoors as far as he's concerned. He doesn't get that there's a difference. That's a pretty huge thing that he has to learn, and will take a lot of patience I'm sure.

Ergo, training him to papers outside his crate may be a necessary intermediate step in your case, before you can seriously focus on getting him to go outside. (I'd keep taking him out, for sure, on a regular basis, and praise-praise-praise when he does finally happen to do the right thing out there.)

But finding some way for him to learn that he wants his crate to be clean is obviously crucial, so that you can use the crate to teach him to hold it until he's in the right place. I would thoroughly clean the crate with an enzyme cleaner like Nature's Miracle, so that there is no leftover smell of urine or poop in there, and then keep doing that every time he makes a mistake in there. I'd keep his bedding scrupulously clean. You might need two beds so you can rotate one out to the washer.

Shutting him in his crate for his meals might help to break the cycle too--I don't think they like to do their business in the same spot where they eat.
It may take a little while for him to stop soiling his crate, but in your shoes that's where I'd start with this process.

One question: How big is his crate? Does he have a lot of room? I would make sure it's fairly small at this point--just enough room for him to move around a bit and curl up and sleep, stretch out, and to eat if you start feeding him there. (Most crates come with a divider to use temporarily for a puppy; some people suggest using a cardboard box as a space filler, but IMO that's just something more for him to chew/eat that he shouldn't.) You don't want him to feel as though he's got enough room in there to have a bathroom corner and an eating corner and a sleeping corner.

It's really too bad about that carpet! But every time I hear about a puppy that has been chewing on carpet edges, etc., I worry about them actually consuming part of it and causing intestinal blockages and other horrible problems. Even towels and blankets can become lethal in that way, so it really is crucial that he is left alone with nothing that he can chew and potentially consume. Someone mentioned nylabones, and I think those are good (there's a softer puppy version of them and a "durable" one...).

Good luck with him -- I'm sure he's a sweetie and will be well worth all of this effort that you are clearly going to have to make to get him on track!

katc10
21st March 2007, 06:45 PM
I did that with the crate, I had split it in half at first, but then he pooped in it, so I gave him only about 1/4, enough space to lay down and that's about it. But he still pees in it. We have a little water dish in it, so that might be part of the problem, but I feel bad leaving him all night with no water. As for the beds, I took away his bed until he stop peeing in it, and put towels in instead. I did also give him a bit more space in it this week, so if he wants to have a toy with him he has room. His new place is in the kitchen with his crate while we're gone, and he pottys on one end and plays on the other. We're working on him, I'm sure it'll be a slow process, but he's showing some improvement each day. We'll get there! ;)

Kodee
21st March 2007, 07:24 PM
I did that with the crate, I had split it in half at first, but then he pooped in it, so I gave him only about 1/4, enough space to lay down and that's about it. But he still pees in it. We have a little water dish in it, so that might be part of the problem, but I feel bad leaving him all night with no water. As for the beds, I took away his bed until he stop peeing in it, and put towels in instead. I did also give him a bit more space in it this week, so if he wants to have a toy with him he has room. His new place is in the kitchen with his crate while we're gone, and he pottys on one end and plays on the other. We're working on him, I'm sure it'll be a slow process, but he's showing some improvement each day. We'll get there! ;) the rule is whille house breaking no food and water past about 8pm. Definately if he has access to water at this age with no muscle control he is going to need to go 30min to 1 hr from drinking!

Cathy T
21st March 2007, 07:37 PM
the rule is whille house breaking no food and water past about 8pm.

Absolutely!! My guys got their last good drink of water about 7:30 and then the bowl went up til the morning. It's not an issue anymore now that they're older...but as pups that's how we did it. I have to remember not to drink too much water myself past 8:00....or I'm up all night :roll:

Claire L
21st March 2007, 08:32 PM
Cathy T wrote:

I have to remember not to drink too much water myself past 8:00....or I'm up all night


:rotfl: cl*p :rotfl: I hope you're house trained Cathy!!

:flwr:

katc10
21st March 2007, 08:53 PM
OK, so no water in his kennel for now. Check. I bet that solves the problem all together of him peeing in the kennel. Maybe he can get his nice cushy bed back soon then. :D

Cathy Moon
22nd March 2007, 02:39 AM
He should have free access to clean drinking water all day long!!! :thmbsup:

Only take his water away at night.

katc10
23rd March 2007, 04:10 AM
Well, he seems to be doing a bit better. However, he still doesn't understand "dont pee in my house". I gave him clean bedding this morning, only to find it pee-soaked when I came home, as well as everything else that would absorb pee. It's almost like he thought he could trick me into thinking he didn't pee by making it so there's no visible evidence. :p (Might have worked if the entire house didn't smell like pee when I walked into it! lol)

Also, when I come home he is crying. I can hear him when I'm walking up to the condo. And when I leave, he cries. I am afraid he just cries all day! :(

Remali
23rd March 2007, 05:09 AM
Oh I do know what you are going through. I had a tough time with Bentley, and I must admit, even tho Bentley is a year and a half now, we still having peeing in the house issues (and I rent an apartment too, so I worry about any carpet damage). But, in my case I do realize it is my fault, I live alone and had to work 40 hours a week, so he had to be alone all day (well, he has Bailey, my toy Poodle, for a buddy), at first I kept Bentley in the kitchen, as crate training just did not work out at all for us. But, I put puppy pads down and paper-trained him, and that worked for us. Good luck, hang in there, it will get better! It sounds as if you are really doing all you can. About the crying, maybe he is crying because he wants to be with Indy if the two of them are separated when you are gone? I know I could never keep my two apart, they have a bit too much separation anxiety for me to do that, so I keep them together always.

:flwr:

katc10
24th March 2007, 04:01 PM
OK, so this morning I got up early to take Charlie out to potty. I took a couple treats, and made sure to let him drink some water before we went out. I walked him out to the front of our condos where there is some grass and dirt, but all he did the entire time was whimper, shiver and cry, and look up the stairs to go back home. I was using my sweet voice the entire time, showed him the treats, said "Good potty Charlie, who's my good potty boy, you go potty Charlie..." and was very patient with him. When he was whimpering & shivering, it was like he needed to go potty but didn't want to outside.... We stayed out for a half an hour or more, and I know he needed to potty because he didn't potty in his house (we've been taking the water away at night), and he has the bloated i-need-to-poopy belly. So finally I took him back to the house, and was going to lay down papers in the kitchen and spray them with the potty spray, and sure enough, as usual, as SOON as he steps in the house, he pees on the carpet! :sl*p:

I could have stayed out with him for another half hour and he WILL NOT potty outside. I guess we just have to work on paper training him, and then take the papers out when we try to get him to potty. He is such an impossible little man! :bang:

katc10
24th March 2007, 05:25 PM
Well, showed him the paper in the kitchen, and where does he pee? In his kennel. So I change the bedding & clean his kennel (been cleaning it each time he goes), let him out, and he sits with me for a while. Next thing I know he's peeing on the couch. So I tell him bad potty, put him back in the kitchen, and he immediately goes to his kennel and finishes his pee! :yuk:

Oh I just don't know what to do with this kid! He has no concept of "his house" and it not being someplace to pee! Maybe we'll try starting to feed him there too, so maybe he will associate the "if I eat here maybe I shouldn't pee here" concept... I just don't know...

Kodee
24th March 2007, 06:11 PM
try taking the potty spray out and using it on the grass

katc10
24th March 2007, 06:38 PM
Tried that. :|

We'll just keep trying things and hopefully something will click in him. At least he seems to cry less when we confine him. So we have some progress, just not necessarily in the areas I'd prefer.

Remali
24th March 2007, 11:38 PM
Hang in there....he will get it all figured out when he gets older. I can't remember....you had him checked out at the vet too, he doesn't have a urinary tract infection or anything does he? Just a thought....that probably isn't it anyway. Once a dog pees in a certain spot it is SO hard to keep them from going there again. He no doubt associates peeing with his kennel now. Can you try keeping him in a puppy playpen instead of the kennel?

katc10
25th March 2007, 05:10 AM
Well we don't just keep him in the kennel, we block off the entire kitchen, and leave his kennel in there for comfort. He just runs in there to pee, stinker! :roll:

Cathy T
25th March 2007, 05:59 AM
:lol: :lol: Kelly, I am laughing with you not at you!! Kelly brought Indy and Charlie over for a visit yesterday. He is the cutest dang boy in the whole wide world!!! Indy is such a sweet little girl...and so tolerant of his puppy antics. But the kicker is....I told her we needed to watch him in the house (I've had several boys mark in the house...on top of which he is a puppy, right?!) So.... no sooner are the words out of my mouth than Jake walks over and pees on my silk tree!!! :yikes Listen buddy...the little guy knows how to go potty...he doesn't need you to show him!!

I was really impressed that out of about 3 hours he didn't potty once in the house. He did go on the grass outside (and dribbled across the patio icon_whistling ). He is such a little pistol.

Hang in there Kelly...he's just too smart for his own good. You have such a good way with both of them you will figure this out!!

katc10
25th March 2007, 08:22 PM
Guess who went to the door today, and made the little "urf" noise, then good pottied (#2) outside!?!?!!!

I'm so proud right now. :D

katc10
26th March 2007, 11:55 PM
I laid some papers down with the "good potty" spray this weekend, and Charlie peed and poo'd on them! I'm such a happy mommy. ;)

Kodee
27th March 2007, 01:39 AM
That is great news! I know some people will even take a bit of the soiled paper outside to let the puppy know its ok to go there to (plus you can try spraying the grass when you first get out there. It's a nice feeling when they start to get a connection - isnt it!

nursejess80
28th March 2007, 04:55 AM
So glad everything is getting better. Ruby went through the same thing. She would run right back to the door and go potty as soon as she got back in the house. She still tries to come back in before pottying at night because she gets a little freaked out when it's dark outside and there's different noises. I just have to reassure her that she's okay, and she'll calm and go potty. However, she's only had one accident this week (tonight) after she had the zoomies. She's been whining by the door to go out for the past few weeks, but she still doesn't have the whole thing down perfectly. She's getting there, and so will your sweet little man!! Good luck with the training!!