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Joanne M
20th March 2007, 11:24 PM
Has anyone seen any numbers relating to deaths associated with the pet food recall? On the Today Show this morning they reported one in every six animals treated had died as a result. The report did not give numbers of deaths or sick animals. Has anyone seen, heard, read how many deaths are being attributed to the tainted food?

I first found out about this recall from Jeni in a thread she started in the Health and Diet Section. I think this is important enough to be repeated.

http://www.menufoods.com/recall/

Claire
20th March 2007, 11:31 PM
Thanks for the information, I will save as a favourite and keep on this site.

KingstonsMom
20th March 2007, 11:33 PM
I hope someone is held accountable for this. That's the only way to keep it from happening again.

molly
21st March 2007, 01:17 AM
I think the 1 in 6 number came from the tests they did. They supposedly knew of the problem 30 days before the recall.


By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

*Filed at March 19th at 5:19 p.m. ET*

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Seven animals died in tests of suspect dog and cat food
by the manufacturer after complaints the products were poisoning pets around
the country, the government said Monday.

A federal investigation is focusing on wheat gluten as the likely source of
contamination that sparked a recall last Friday of 60 million cans and
pouches of the suspect food, said Stephen F. Sundlof, the Food and Drug
Administration's
<http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/f/food_an
d_drug_administration/index.html?inline=nyt-org>
top veterinarian.

The ingredient, a protein source, is commonly used as filler.

Agency investigators are looking at other ingredients as well. The wet-style
pet food was made by Menu Foods, an Ontario, Canada-based company.

Menu Foods told the FDA it received the first complaints of kidney failure
and deaths among cats and dogs from pet owners on Feb. 20. It began new
tests on Feb. 27.

During those tests, the company fed its product to 40 to 50 dogs and cats
and some seven animals -- the mix of species was not immediately known --
died, Sundlof said. The contamination appeared more deadly to cats than to
dogs, he said.

The recall now covers dog food sold throughout North America under 51 brands
and cat food sold under 40 brands, including Iams, Nutro and Eukanuba. The
food was sold under both store and major brand labels at Wal-Mart, Kroger,
Safeway and other large retailers.

Jay
21st March 2007, 01:33 AM
Is it only me or does anyone else feel outraged that they actually fed tainted food to dogs and cats to see if any died? It would seem to me that recallling the food and testing the food for toxins would be the better way. I won't ever use Menu food just cuz.
J.

Joanne M
21st March 2007, 02:01 AM
I purchase my food from the Drs Fosters and Smith website. They posted a notice saying their food was not affected and then linked this article. It's confusing, I'd like to know how many animals were affected and became sick and how many died. See the numbers below. I think they have no idea. I saw one woman interviewed on a local newstation who's cat had died soon after she switched to one of the affected brands.

The following is the March 17, 2007 press release by the Food and Drug Administration regarding the recall. The recall was prompted by consumer complaints received by the manufacturer and by tasting trials conducted by the manufacturer. There has been a small number of reported instances of cats and dogs in the United States that developed kidney failure after eating the affected product. Ten deaths, one dog and nine cats, have reported at this time.


FDA is conducting an investigation and working with Menu Foods, Inc. to ensure the effectiveness of the recall. Consumers with questions may contact the company at 1-866-895-2708. Consumers who wish to report adverse actions or other problems can go to http://www.fda.gov/opacom/backgrounders/complain.html to contact the FDA complaint coordinator in their state.

The link below is where I have taken this information from.



http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?cls=0&cat=2049&articleid=3495

frecklesmom
21st March 2007, 02:21 AM
How does a company deliberately feed possibly contaminated food to "guinea pig" dogs. Isn't there abuse somewhere in those actions? If there were not state-of-the-art labs worldwide, that might be considered a reason, but, in today's world it seems, to me, to be a barbaric act. I can't find much on Canada's abuse laws but maybe they are in the dark ages.

Kodee
21st March 2007, 02:22 AM
Is it only me or does anyone else feel outraged that they actually fed tainted food to dogs and cats to see if any died? It would seem to me that recallling the food and testing the food for toxins would be the better way. I won't ever use Menu food just cuz.
J.Yup it made me to swear off any product by any of them! I understand no matter how high standards are, sometimes things go wrong. If the company after investigation truely is not knowingly responsible I possibly could trust them again if its proven. But regardless if this was out of their control - no way in $#!! would I ever by a product from that huge list again knowing they fed it to see if they died! (About the only thing I have from that list was the cookies Kodee won last wk in class - out they go!

Kingofthehouse86
21st March 2007, 02:33 AM
We had a couple food that was recalled from my store....It was the Nutro Natural Choice pouches for both dogs and cats every flavor we had was taken off the shelf... We were glad that was all the dog food pouches aren't a big seller, but the cat pouches are so I really hope none of the pouches that were taken do any harm to any of our customers animals...

I'm also glad the recall was needed for Solid Gold or Vet's Choice, or other foods that we feed our dogs on this site...

Kodee
21st March 2007, 02:49 AM
I'm also glad the recall was needed for Solid Gold or Vet's Choice, or other foods that we feed our dogs on this site... I'm confused? Was Solid Gold recalled - I didnt see it on the list? Or are you talking about something I read here that happened in the past with that brand?

Mom_of_2_Cavies
21st March 2007, 02:51 AM
I think it's going to take a long time to get this all sorted out and learn how many animals are actually impacted. They are saying that cats are more likely to be vulnerable than dogs, for some reason yet to be explained.

What I was wondering is whether some animals can recover from the acute kidney problems that they apparently are suffering from as a result of eating this food, or if they will develop chronic problems that they will have to live with the rest of their lives (and likely have their lives shortened because of it).

Something that is very hard for me to face up to is how many dogs and cats are used as laboratory animals by companies like this, for testing and experimentation. :(

Mom_of_2_Cavies
21st March 2007, 02:52 AM
I'm also glad the recall was needed for Solid Gold or Vet's Choice, or other foods that we feed our dogs on this site... I'm confused? Was Solid Gold recalled - I didnt see it on the list? Or are you talking about something I read here that happened in the past with that brand?

Kodee, I think that was a typo--from the context of the sentence. It looks like it was intended to read "...the recall was NOT needed..." Those foods were not recalled, as far as I've seen.

Kodee
21st March 2007, 03:04 AM
I'm also glad the recall was needed for Solid Gold or Vet's Choice, or other foods that we feed our dogs on this site... I'm confused? Was Solid Gold recalled - I didnt see it on the list? Or are you talking about something I read here that happened in the past with that brand?

Kodee, I think that was a typo--from the context of the sentence. It looks like it was intended to read "...the recall was NOT needed..." Those foods were not recalled, as far as I've seen. Thanks, I will take my heart out of my throat now :yikes

Cathy Moon
21st March 2007, 03:06 AM
It will probably be 6 months or so before the dog magazines print full stories with all the facts about this recall and the number of deaths.

That's how long it took last year after that Diamond dog food was recalled due to toxins in the corn gluten meal that went into the food. The FDA gave them a slap on the wrist last year.

moniechris
21st March 2007, 03:38 AM
The number of deaths, I feel is going to be huge. The food has been on the shelf since January and there are tons of people just now finding out why their healthy dogs all of a sudden fell ill and died 3 months ago. Locally, I have read of at least 3 pets in my area that died back in January and had no one could figure out why, now they know... Most owners had both dogs and cats on the food, both got sick. :(

Kodee
21st March 2007, 05:22 AM
I saw Royal Cain is also under fire on the news tonight. As well there was a website to petition Menu foods to cover vet bills which for some owners are huge. I wanted to go to it and now cant find the link - I'll keep looking

$50M lawsuit filed against pet food company
Last Updated: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 | 7:22 PM ET
CBC News
Another big pet-food manufacturer is accused of selling tainted food in Canada that has allegedly killed some animals and made others sick, CBC News has learned.

A $50-million class-action lawsuit was filed Tuesday in Toronto against Royal Canin — a multibillion-dollar French company that supplies the Canadian pet-food market.

The lawsuit seeks compensation for anyone who has purchased Royal Canin
dog or cat food since Aug. 1, 2004.

Full Story http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2007/03/20/pet-food-lawsuit.html

Caraline
21st March 2007, 06:26 AM
Jeez... the more I read about pet food companies the more angry I get. They rip us off with prices that are outrageous and none of them, not even the so-called "premium foods" have expensive ingredients. Then there is all this bull-#%*! propaganda put out about how great it is. They feed fear to those who love their dogs with their "your home cooked isn't nutritionally balanced", and then they have the hide to kill cats & dogs in their experiments. :swear:

Makes me want to change completely over to home-cooked, and I might do it yet!

KingstonsMom
21st March 2007, 06:58 AM
I am really outraged that a pet food company used dogs like laboratory rats just to see if they would drop dead from tainted food! I'd like to think that the company feeding my dog cares about pets as much as I do. Obviously that isn't the case. I'm not using any Menu Foods products anymore. I guarantee you that!

Cathy Moon
21st March 2007, 05:21 PM
I saw Royal Cain is also under fire on the news tonight. As well there was a website to petition Menu foods to cover vet bills which for some owners are huge. I wanted to go to it and now cant find the link - I'll keep looking

$50M lawsuit filed against pet food company
Last Updated: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 | 7:22 PM ET
CBC News
Another big pet-food manufacturer is accused of selling tainted food in Canada that has allegedly killed some animals and made others sick, CBC News has learned.

A $50-million class-action lawsuit was filed Tuesday in Toronto against Royal Canin — a multibillion-dollar French company that supplies the Canadian pet-food market.

The lawsuit seeks compensation for anyone who has purchased Royal Canin
dog or cat food since Aug. 1, 2004.

Full Story http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2007/03/20/pet-food-lawsuit.html
Thanks for posting this Kodee. RC is now off my list of foods I would recommend!

Shay
21st March 2007, 06:15 PM
I saw Royal Cain is also under fire on the news tonight. As well there was a website to petition Menu foods to cover vet bills which for some owners are huge. I wanted to go to it and now cant find the link - I'll keep looking

$50M lawsuit filed against pet food company
Last Updated: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 | 7:22 PM ET
CBC News
Another big pet-food manufacturer is accused of selling tainted food in Canada that has allegedly killed some animals and made others sick, CBC News has learned.

A $50-million class-action lawsuit was filed Tuesday in Toronto against Royal Canin — a multibillion-dollar French company that supplies the Canadian pet-food market.

The lawsuit seeks compensation for anyone who has purchased Royal Canin
dog or cat food since Aug. 1, 2004.

Full Story http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2007/03/20/pet-food-lawsuit.html
Thanks for posting this Kodee. RC is now off my list of foods I would recommend!

Oh Crap.....Should I quit feeding Lily RC??? Was this just the Canadian Food??

arasara
21st March 2007, 06:43 PM
Are you feeding her wet food shay ??


I was surprised yesterday to find my 3 cans of nutro natural choice chicken rice and oatmeal puppy have the manufacturer's recalled code. :( Faith has eaten at least 3 cans of that since coming to my house .. thank God she's not showing any signs of sickness. I think it happens pretty quickly if it's gonna happen, right?

I went shopping and found Merrick's canned food and bought a lunch box type pack *8 cans* and have been feeding her out of that for the last 3 weeks. Thank God I didn't give her any more than the original 3 cans. :d*g: :|

Shay
21st March 2007, 06:53 PM
No...she only eats the dry kibble. All of this has me wanting to feed her people food. She really has done so well on RC, but it doesn't give you much confidence in pet food companies does it.

Edited to add: Did you check with your Vet about the food Faith has eaten?

arasara
21st March 2007, 07:03 PM
Shay my poor vet is swamped with this stuff!! :(

It's kind of scary because I have 3 cans of this crap in my car with the recall label code on them. The good thing is she hasn't eaten any canned nutro natural choice for the past 3 weeks or so. I called the vet and she said as long as she's not showing any signs of listlesness or she's not peeing and drinking uncontrollably then she should be fine. There apparently haven't been any cases stated in Canada although that doesn't mean the problem isn't here. The food I have clearly has the recall code. I am just worried what happens later on in life if we have something wrong with the kidneys - I should take a picture of my cans just for a reference and a "just in case."

What a nightmare. :(

Joanne M
21st March 2007, 07:07 PM
FDA site - information on Recall

http://www.fda.gov/opacom/7alerts.html

Kodee
21st March 2007, 07:21 PM
Oh Crap.....Should I quit feeding Lily RC??? Was this just the Canadian Food?? I looked it over again and it said there was a north american recall. Check to see what your vet knows. It has to do with elevated Vit D.

Shay
21st March 2007, 07:41 PM
Thanks Debbie.......I just googled and here's what I found:

Royal Canin Dog Food Recall
Michelle Meunier - 02/10/2006
The Department of Agriculture and Markets has become aware of a recall of a ROYAL CANIN dog food. ROYAL CANIN Veterinary Diet Canine URINARY SO in gel canned product has been recalled because of excessive levels of vitamin D3. The excessive levels of vitamin D3 have resulted in 8 cases of hypercalcemia in dogs. The attached alert from the ROYAL CANIN Company contains important information concerning the recall of this product. This product is only available for purchase through veterinarians.

Apparently the class action suit was from this recall which was over a year ago, and was sold only by Vets, so I think I'm safe.

Sara.....I would definitely take a pic of the cans. I'm sure Faith is fine, but it couldn't hurt.

Thanks Joann for the link to the FDA. It doesn't say anything about RC either, so I am feeling a little better. This is just such a nightmare for pet owners. Who knows if our foods may not show up in the next few days. Especially becasue nobody know what the he!! the problem is.

Kodee
21st March 2007, 07:47 PM
What I just realized is the royal cain was the canned food too. Not to be an alarmist, but I am getting edgy on canned food.... Kodee wont eat unless she has a bit of merricks canned. Then again, I think when something like this happens we get paranoid. When I saw the list of recalled stuff at the FDA site I almost dropped! I never heard about half of them. You could drive yourself crazy with this stuff!

Joanne M
22nd March 2007, 10:05 PM
Taken from the Dog aware website
http://www.dogaware.com/dogfeeding.html#commercial

Information on Menu Foods Recall
Menu Foods makes only canned and pouched foods, so there is no concern about any dry foods (kibble), pre-mixes or frozen raw foods.
At this time, the cause of the problem leading to kidney failure in dogs and cats has not been positively identified. The suspected ingredient is wheat gluten, but other possibilities exist, including propylene glycol, which could possibly have been inadvertently mixed up with ethylene glycol (antifreeze), known to cause kidney failure. Foods from two Menu Foods plants, in Kansas and New Jersey, have been identified so far as causing these problems; other Menu Foods plants are not affected as far as we know.

None of the foods listed on this web site have been recalled. However, a few manufacturers do have some of their canned diets made by Menu Foods, though many are made at plants other than those affected by the recall, and often these companies supply all of the ingredients themselves. None of these foods include the ingredient that is suspected to have caused the problem (wheat gluten), nor have there been any reports of pets eating these foods becoming sick, but because the source has not yet been positively identified, there is some chance that it will turn out that other foods have been affected.

The brands not affected by the recall, but which do have some canned diets made by Menu Foods, are as follows:

Eagle Pack
Natura (Healthwise, California Natural, Innova): says their canned foods are made at a different facility (South Dakota), not at either of the two affected by the recall (Kansas and New Jersey), and they supply all of their own ingredients.
Nature's Variety
Newman's Own Organics
Performatrin
Wellness
Wysong
Again, only canned and pouched foods are affected.
Go to Menu Foods for more information on the recall.

molly
22nd March 2007, 10:12 PM
Joanne, thank you for keeping us all up to date on this information. Very valuable.

Cathy Moon
23rd March 2007, 12:31 AM
My husband took the cavs for a walk around the neighborhood today, and talked to a neighbor boy whose dog died from the food. :( He said his family is going to be in the Cleveland newspaper tomorrow.

Joanne M
23rd March 2007, 12:52 AM
Cathy that is horrible. This is very frightening to me. It could be any of our much loved pets.

moniechris
23rd March 2007, 01:30 AM
It seems that EVERYONE knows SOMEONE who has been affected by this, and yet the numbers that the media are putting out are such a small reflection of what is really going on. It is quite disturbing...

goldcountryrose
23rd March 2007, 08:19 AM
OMG, I feel a real Epic coming on, but I'll resist.

We now know, without a doubt, that we are being RIPPED OFF. The same ingredients that go into Iams and Eucanuba, go into "Old Roy" and WalMart and other generic cheap food. We are sucked in with advertising that says if we love our pets we will spend two or three times as much money to get the exact same thing as the cheap stuff.
THIS is what I think is the main thing to YELL ABOUT.

If it is true that they tested the tainted food on live animals to see how many would die...Gee sounds just like the Pharmacudical Industry, the Automobile Industry and other Industries wagering cost of lawsuits vs profit.

Regarding Royal Canin, it is not involved in this situation. And as others have pointed out, only canned food or pouch food, in other words, wet foods have been affected. Hopefully that holds true. The depth of this seems to grow deeper every day.

For once, being unemployed and pretty broke has been a good thing for me. My dogs were eating Royal Canin, but as I was unemployed for many weeks, I integrated Pedigree Small Breed with the Royal Canin and finally switched over completely.

I believe those who say that having Corn in dog or cat food is the worst thing for them, but Royal Canin and Pedigree both have corn. It didn't make me happy when I finally read the ingreds on RC and learned it had corn.

My dogs both love the Pedigree. My picky Cav, who wouldn't eat darn near anything really likes it.

I'll switch back to a non-corn food as soon as I can, but in the meantime, thank goodness Pedigree is absolutely not manufactured by Menu Foods, and my wonderful dogs are safe.

Ok, fine, it's like a mini-epic. icon_whistling

Cathy Moon
24th March 2007, 02:16 AM
A family in my neighborhood lost their 15 yr old Norwegian Elkhound due to the recalled food. :(
Here is the newspaper article:
http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/news/1174639656208580.xml&coll=2
I think the way they are keeping the numbers of deaths and affected pets so low is by requiring you to have the empty food container. Most people just throw it in the trash; now they have no proof. :x

Also there are many, many veterinarians and animal hospitals in the Cleveland area, but the article only mentions 2 vet practices. :(

Joanne M
24th March 2007, 02:26 AM
Cathy that is heart-breaking.

Remali
24th March 2007, 02:43 AM
I feed California Natural.....and I gave my dogs some of the canned California Natural today....makes me nervous tho, so I am only going to feed dry from now. This is appalling!!

:yikes

Joanne M
24th March 2007, 12:02 PM
My cousin sent me the information below from an Associated Press article:

ALBANY, N.Y. (March 23) - Rat poison was found in the pet food suspected of causing kidney failure that killed at least 16 cats and dogs, but scientists still don't know how it got there, state officials said Friday
The toxin was identified as aminopterin, which is used to kill rats in some countries, state Agriculture Commissioner Patrick Hooker said.

Aminopterin is not registered for killing rodents in the United States, according to the Environmental Protection Agency, though it is used as a cancer drug. State officials wouldn't speculate on how the toxin got into Menu Foods' now-recalled pet food but said no criminal investigations had been launched.

Scientists at the New York State Animal Health Diagnostic Center at Cornell and at the New York State Food Laboratory tested three cat food samples provided by Menu Foods and found Aminopterin in two of them. Hooker said they would test individual components of the pet food, as well. The early test results were released to give veterinarians a better idea of how to treat sick animals.

"Any amount of this product is too much in food," Hooker said.


Signs of Trouble
Experts advise owners to call their veterinarian if a pet has eaten recalled food and shows symptoms of possible kidney failure. An animal could be in trouble if it:

· Stops eating
· Appears tired and lifeless
· Seems excessively thirsty
· Urinates much more than usual
· Vomits
· Has diarrhea
· Seems to have abdominal pain
Source: USA Today
Aminopterin, also used as a cancer drug, is highly toxic in high doses. It inhibits the growth of malignant cells and suppresses the immune system.

In dogs and cats, it can cause kidney failure, according to Donald Smith, dean of Cornell University's College of Veterinary Medicine.

The Food and Drug Administration has said the investigation into the pet deaths was focusing on wheat gluten in the pet food. Wheat gluten itself would not cause kidney failure, but the common ingredient could have been contaminated, the FDA said.

Bob Rosenberg, senior vice president of government affairs for the National Pest Management Association, said he had never heard of the substance before Friday.

"It would make no sense to spray a crop itself with rodenticide," Rosenberg said, though he said grain shippers typically put bait stations around the perimeter of their storage facilities.

Cathy Moon
24th March 2007, 01:23 PM
Now our newspaper is reporting on two categories of kidney failure: acute and chronic. With chronic kidney failure the symptoms will be noticed gradually over a period of weeks and can be more subtle. Both types of kidney failure require immediate veterinary care. With chronic kidney failure, it is typically not an immediate danger, but lost kidney function cannot be regained and the goal of treatment is to stop any more damage.

I looked at the FDA website this morning, and their focus is on acute kidney failure only. There was no mention of watching for chronic symptoms over the next weeks.

Anyone who still has pet food containers of the recalled food they fed their pets should keep the containers and the dates fed. And keep a log of dates and symptoms noticed in addition to vet records.