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Ginger's Mom
23rd March 2007, 04:35 PM
Have you guys heard of brands like "Bio-Spot" and "Sentry Pro"? I'm only familiar with Frontline and K9 Advantix as far as the flea control products...

Dog.com had this comparison chart on their website and it seems that these two brands above offer more features... Just wondering if anyone has experience using these products...

http://www.dog.com/flea.asp?Category=Flea%20%26%20Tick

Cathy Moon
23rd March 2007, 05:10 PM
I buy all flea and heartworm control products straight from the vet. I would worry too much otherwise.

WoodHaven
23rd March 2007, 05:54 PM
Have you guys heard of brands like "Bio-Spot" and "Sentry Pro"? I'm only familiar with Frontline and K9 Advantix as far as the flea control products...

Dog.com had this comparison chart on their website and it seems that these two brands above offer more features... Just wondering if anyone has experience using these products...

http://www.dog.com/flea.asp?Category=Flea%20%26%20Tick

PLEASE research before using any toxin on a pet.
for example http://www.elversonpuzzle.com/biospotletters.html

My daughter works as a vet tech and has seen horrible reactions to some products.

Ginger's Mom
23rd March 2007, 06:00 PM
PLEASE research before using any toxin on a pet.
for example http://www.elversonpuzzle.com/biospotletters.html

My daughter works as a vet tech and has seen horrible reactions to some products.

Wow...that is horrifying... Thanks for sharing this info with me.. Ginger has used K9 Advantix so far and has no problem. It is the one the vet recommended, so we'll just keep on using that.

Thanks!!

Scouty girl
29th March 2007, 06:02 PM
I would never put a flea or tick product on my dogs or cats that didn't come directly from my vet. I've heard horror stories of people who purchased products from PetsMart or WalMart or other discount places that sold off brand flea and tick products. Some become very ill and one died. :yikes

Frontline and Advantage are rather expensive, especially if you have two, three, four or more pets, but worth it in the long run. Plus they work fabulously. Does anyone remember what it was llike before these products came onto the market. Fleas....UGH!!!

WoodHaven
29th March 2007, 06:28 PM
I would never put a flea or tick product on my dogs or cats that didn't come directly from my vet. I've heard horror stories of people who purchased products from PetsMart or WalMart or other discount places that sold off brand flea and tick products. Some become very ill and one died. :yikes

Frontline and Advantage are rather expensive, especially if you have two, three, four or more pets, but worth it in the long run. Plus they work fabulously. Does anyone remember what it was llike before these products came onto the market. Fleas....UGH!!!


For those with multiple dogs*****
With Frontline that is a liquid applied between the shoulder blades-- you might ask the vet to help you buy the larger size- and have him show you how to disperseit with a tuberculin syringe. Some vets try to work with people that have multiple dogs. Or there is the frontline spray.

moniechris
30th March 2007, 02:39 AM
I have been having so many issues with Frontline. My vet agrees that it seems to be losing its "oomph" because he is constantly having clients complain about its ineffectiveness. Purhaps the Florida fleas are growing immune...

I have been using Advantage and that has been working really well. It doesn't protect against ticks, but I have never seen one on ANY of my dogs (all my life) so I am not too concerned.

Because Advantage comes off after a bath, I use a pill called Capstar, which kills every flea on their body within 4 hours and last for 24 hours. I give them this when I bathe them and let the oils reaccumulate on their body before I put on the Advantage. It works really well and only costs $3 a pill from my vet. ;)

Crittercall
30th March 2007, 02:50 AM
There are many horror stories associated with using "off brand" flea products. Hartz has been around so long and it is one of the worst offenders.

We have been using Frontline spray and have used it every two weeks instead of monthly as the product says to do. The vet said to go with the every other week. I think that the Flea is the state animal for Florida and we have many of them. The weather doesn't get cold enough here to kill them all out in the winter time, so I've seen some that must be grandfathers.

We did have a tick problem last summer, and the groomer found one tick on Sasha a few weeks ago. So we will continue with the Frontline. And Wallis is being treated now for a disease that is caused by ticks.

Monica - I'll see if Bub still has the website at his office. He bought Capstar online much cheaper than that. We bought the size that Wallis gets one pill and the other two girls half one between them. That stuff really works!

moniechris
30th March 2007, 03:04 AM
That would be great Donna!!! Thanks!! :D :D

Yvonne117
30th March 2007, 11:19 PM
I dont know if it is different in the uk but I always got my frontline from the vet and it was very expensive. Last year government changes enabled other sources to sell some vet only prescription items. I am now able to buy all frontline direct on line and this is approx half the price of the vets. As yet the worming tablets I get from the vet are not available. As I have two dogs I save loads by buying on line and it is delivered within 2 days.

JeanKC
31st March 2007, 07:34 AM
I have been having so many issues with Frontline. My vet agrees that it seems to be losing its "oomph" because he is constantly having clients complain about its ineffectiveness. Purhaps the Florida fleas are growing immune...

I have been using Advantage and that has been working really well. It doesn't protect against ticks, but I have never seen one on ANY of my dogs (all my life) so I am not too concerned.

Because Advantage comes off after a bath, I use a pill called Capstar, which kills every flea on their body within 4 hours and last for 24 hours. I give them this when I bathe them and let the oils reaccumulate on their body before I put on the Advantage. It works really well and only costs $3 a pill from my vet. ;)

Our dogs take Sentinel heart/flea monthly. Vet gave us Capstar when we mentioned we still had quite active fleas. No help for us...

Harley & Carley
31st March 2007, 04:18 PM
We use Interceptor from the vet. It is a chewable tablet and my girls think it is a treat. THey even do tricks to get it every month!

Maxxs_Mummy
31st March 2007, 04:43 PM
Can you get Stronghold over in the US? I have found this to be far more effective than Frontline lately.

I don't like using chemicals on my boys but it's either that or them being attacked by ticks :?

I would never use Advantix on any animal again after a locum Vet used it on my cats (both now at the Bridge) when they were 6mth old kittens. They ended up on IV drips at the Vets surgery & we almost lost them both :(

moniechris
31st March 2007, 04:56 PM
Jean: How frequently do you bathe your babies? My vet told me that whenever you bathe them, the frontline becomes unaffective for the next 24 hours because the oils that contain the medication are washed away. The oils return (because the frontline stays deeper within the skin) the next day, but during that time they are left open to flea bites (which is a major bummer if they have allergies like my Wesley).

Whenever I bathe them is when I give the capstar, then the next day they should be fine. It is a constant struggle here to get the fleas under control.

Also, I don't know how much your cavies weigh, but if they are in the 20lb range, it may be better to go up to the next dose (for both the Frontline and the Capstar). That has really helped as well ;) Good Luck!! I know this stinks!!

Caraline
1st April 2007, 05:07 AM
With Frontline that is a liquid applied between the shoulder blades-- you might ask the vet to help you buy the larger size- and have him show you how to disperseit with a tuberculin syringe. Some vets try to work with people that have multiple dogs.

The breeder of Sonny & Beau got me onto this idea and it is so very much cheaper.

I buy the giant breed Frontline. I draw up the correct amount using a needle & syringe (a diabetes needles & syring is perfect). I then pull off the needle & cap it for next time, then apply to the shoulder using the syringe. I get 6 doses out of one large pipette and that makes it about 1/4 of the cost of buying the correct sized pipettes.

You can still do this even if you only have 1 dog. Just place some sticky tape over the puncture hole in the pippette. Position the pippette in the fridge oriented so the contents can't ooze out of the hole and next time you need to draw some up, just go through the same needle hole.

Pam Smith
1st April 2007, 11:10 PM
I treat six dogs, my three, my mother's one, my son's two, and to make sure all are treated I buy the heart and flea treatments. With this many dogs I must be thrifty so I buy the large size of Frontline plus and divide the dose up per dog. I also get a prescription for heartgard and buy it from Fosters and Smith. I think I figured the cost for both heart and fleas treatment a month and it is about three dollars per dog a month. I used to use the Frontline spray instead of the kind that goes on the back of the neck and it works great and if you purchase it on line it is about 21.00 and it goes a long way(some people find it a little messy if the dogs hair is real thick and long. It is fine for my cavalier but messy with my full coated shih tzus. I have found many items that can be purchased at the vet are almost half the cost on line but I am very careful where I order. If I were wealthy and could start all over again with my education, I would become a vet and focus on helping the eldery care for their animals. I sit in the vet"s office and watch these eldery people come in and try to pay for their vet bills knowing they may be sacrificing their medical needs to pay for their animals. It breaks my heart, so I try to find ways to save and past it on to others.

IsabellaBugatti
2nd April 2007, 05:32 AM
Does anyone use Revolution? That's what my vet recommended to us - it contains heartworm, flea, tick, and worm preventatives all in one.

George19
4th April 2007, 05:47 PM
Just worth a mention, I spent an hour with my vet yesterday discussing what to wormers to use given the liklehood of lungworm in my garden, he mentioned that the use of Milbemax and Frontline together is lethal so take care when buying things like frontline online where there isn't the warnings you might get from the experience of a vet :flwr:

lindsey
4th April 2007, 09:02 PM
Does anyone use Revolution? That's what my vet recommended to us - it contains heartworm, flea, tick, and worm preventatives all in one.

I'm majoring in Animal Science in college and am taking a parasitology class. My professor (who is very well known in the parasitology field) said that Revolution was about as useful as "mammary glands on a bull".

I also have the newest "Pfizer Atlas of Veterinary Clinical Parasitology" book from Pfizer Animal Health, so if anyone has any questions, I might be able to help! It contains info on both internal and external parasites!

Scouty girl
5th April 2007, 12:36 AM
Maxxs Mummy,

My vet won't even offer Advantix. One dog uses Advantage. I really like that. It's not supposed to work on ticks, but she never has them on her, and we do have them in our area during the warmer weather. Scout used Frontline, that seems ok.

Scouty girl
5th April 2007, 12:39 AM
Sorry, but I forgot to mention, when I first moved to my present home, I had two cats and one dog. I was sitting in my chair watching tv and noticed a flea jumping on me. This was about 10 years ago. I called my vet and purchased Advantage. I brought it home and put it on everyone around 2pm. By 7pm I actually saw dead fleas on the bathroom floor. I couldn't undstand what those black dots were on the floor (maybe about 10) I felt really bad, but on the other hand I couldn't believe it worked so quickly!!!

IsabellaBugatti
5th April 2007, 03:42 AM
Lindsey - What is it about Revolution that makes your professor feel it is ineffective? I've not had any flea problems with it - is it ineffective against other parasites?

KingstonsMom
6th April 2007, 06:56 PM
Kingston uses Revolution, and he absolutely never has fleas.

merlinsmum
6th April 2007, 07:28 PM
Just worth a mention, I spent an hour with my vet yesterday discussing what to wormers to use given the liklehood of lungworm in my garden, he mentioned that the use of Milbemax and Frontline together is lethal so take care when buying things like frontline online where there isn't the warnings you might get from the experience of a vet :flwr:

Really, thats quite concerning. My vets either give me Milbemax or whats the other one - yes drontal. I also buy fronline for them - although last year we had to have stronghold as the frontline was useless in getting rid of Merlins visitors :yikes

cavimom
13th June 2007, 07:55 PM
I too am wondering about the Revolution. My vet put it on one of my cats last week because he was feeling down. He said if it was worms, it would get rid of them as well as fleas and such. It isn't much more $$ than Frontline and I had thought of switching all my animals to it. Especially since I use Heartgard and could eliminate that for Lily if I used Revolution. Has anyone used it in place of Heartgard?

IsabellaBugatti
14th June 2007, 04:36 AM
Nicole - yes, you can discontinue using heartguard if you use Revolution. Revolution contains a heartworm preventative as well. Our vet in Texas recommended Revolution for my cats and Bella. Our vet in Illinois has no problems with Revolution, but does not sell it. He prescribes Frontline Plus for fleas and ticks. He explained the difference in Revolution vs some of the other common flea/tick medications to me recently.
Evidently Revolution sterilizes fleas so that your home and dog do not become infested. It doesn't really "repel" fleas or keep a flea from biting, which is what the others do. I think I am going to continue using Revolution on my indoor cats in case fleas happen to get in with the dogs, but I'm going to start using Frontline on the dogs.

cavimom
15th June 2007, 07:00 PM
I did not realize it only steralized. I would prefer repelling them! I have cats that go into the back yard and back in. They don't roam. I use Frontline on all the animals and am happy with it. I think I will stick to it and Heartgard. Thanks for the tidbit!

angie
16th June 2007, 11:56 PM
we have used stronghold on shy(cat) for oooh her whole life she is now 6 and no fleaas (touch wood!!! dont jinx myself!!) it also has an extra wormer in it so when we do give a worming tablet we were always advised not to give them at the same time. jadan is on the same. when they went for their yearly booster the vet ran a comb through both and was supprised to find......... nothing!!!