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Harry & Heidi's mom
25th March 2007, 07:46 PM
Hiya,

Would you leave a 6 month old pup in boarding kennels for a week?
if you had no other option?
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emmawright
25th March 2007, 07:51 PM
personally, i would rather leave daisy with family, than a boarding kennel. i would rather daisy was with people she knows than being put in kennels...

Justine
25th March 2007, 07:51 PM
its just me but no,i feel its to young.i would try first with family or friends.but at the end of the day yes if it was an ememgancy.

*Pauline*
25th March 2007, 07:57 PM
Dylan is nearly 7 months old. In May he will be boarding with his breeder for 9 nights. This is a good situation I feel as she will keep him in her house and he will have nice Cavaliers to play with. :D

Harry & Heidi's mom
25th March 2007, 07:59 PM
i wouldn't have any other option, thats why i asked that in my first post,

i have the opportunity to add a ruby cavalier to our family (just born today) but we go on holiday in september and Harry is already booked into kennels for the week, so the pup would be with Harry.
The boarding kennels are fantastic, and have had a few tv programmes based there (can't remember their names tho)

i don't want to pass him by forthe sake of this 1 week. :?

Ste
25th March 2007, 08:01 PM
I would opt for home boarding over a kennel environment for a pup. I would never ask family or friends to mind my dogs, i'd have much more peace of mind knowing that they were safe in boarding or kennels ;)

Harry & Heidi's mom
25th March 2007, 08:15 PM
Hi Ste,

I feel the same, but my local kennels don't do home boarding, and all the others around here are no where near as good as the one harry goes to

Nicki
25th March 2007, 08:21 PM
Personally I'd cancel the holiday and spend the time with the pups instead...or find somewhere that would take them too.

I'd be very wary of putting such a young pup in kennels - would the breeder take the pup back for a week if you are determined to go away?

Karlin
25th March 2007, 08:27 PM
I have only ever left my dogs with friends once -- then decided never again. If they have kids or are unfamiliar with dogs, it is too easy for a door to be left open or a side gate. I'd only ever leave my dogs with other very experienced dog owners. Too many sad stories too of dogs escaping from people they don't know, looking after them in an unsecure environment and not realising how quickly they can be out and away.

At the risk of destroying people's ideas about how dependent their dogs are on them... icon_whistling :lol: ... from working in rescue I can confidently say that most dogs are quite happy in kennels OR a boarding environment in a vacation situation (eg so long as it is not for weeks on end where they get no attention). Indeed kennels are often *much less stressful and strange* than home boarding because the dogs aren't mixed with other strange dogs, they are safely confined but also get lots of exercise time at a good kennels, and also are secure against thieves. The bland surroundings of a secure kennel can be much better than someone fussing over them or someone who leaves lots of dogs alone together in a home boarding situation (as one new home boarding kennel in Ireland is doing -- npw that is a potentially dangerous environment to leave strange dogs mixed, uncrated, at night when unsupervised! :shock:

Also if a home not used to dogs or used only to their dog, your dog may well get into something dangerous -- most people forget to dog proof their home to ALL dogs, when doing casual minding of a dog; they forget that other dogs may get into stuff their own doesn't.

A good kennesl gives dogs lots of supervised play time outside their kennels and when in kennels, well adjusted dogs mostly just sleep or do meet and greet with the adjacent dogs.

Dogs are also a lot less upset than we like to think when they are somewhere new and their owner isn't there. As anyone who has fostered for me will know, most dogs are unsettled for at most, ONE night and then, usually only for about 10 minutes of trying to see if they can get people to come back and pay attention to them. They adjust very quickly and easily. This goes for people I know who have kennels or have worked in them -- most dogs are not any more bothered being at a kennel than left at home all day alone, which many people do already. In a kennel many dogs will get more attention and time out to play and go for a run than they'd have in a typical day in a working person's own home! :) The routine of a kennel environment is quite reassuring to dogs, too; home boarding doesn;t always have that same consistent structure s you really need to know what the environment is like.

I've used both facilities. My home boarding person no longer home boards at this time; so I kennel with a friend who runs a kennels and gives excellent care. I know my dogs adore the big grassy garden area they have for the dogs to run around in and I have arrived without the dogs seeing me -- they were all quite happy and playing around in their kennel. They adore the person who minds them and jump all over him, which mine do only with people they know well and like. So I am quite happy to opt for kennels -- or professional home boarding.

As for a six month old -- when I was doing general rescue dogs much younger thsan this are routinely kennelled until they can be homed ad again in a good kennels they will have a blast playing with other dogs -- indeed it is a great opportunity to meet other dogs and socialise (we often forget that most of us don't have the chance to let our dogs do this very much and in that sense a kennels is a great opportunity). I would much prefer a young dog to be safely kennelled than just looked after by friends or neighbours; there's too much they can get into and at that age, they are too much of a burden for most people to handle (not fully housetrained etc).

Harry & Heidi's mom
25th March 2007, 08:37 PM
Hi Karlin,

Harry loves this kennel, we send him once a week for "day boarding" in the 4/5 weeks running up to us going away to get him used to the surroundings again, and he can't wait to get in!
I hate leaving him but thats me, not that i don't like the kennels they are fantastic, but i was wondering wether a 6 month old would be ok.

And i can't cancel my holiday, it's already booked and the kids would hate me, my life is so stressful with my son (who has ADHD/dyslexia) daily life is a constant battle, and i really look forward to my week away to recharge my batteries.

Thanks for the advice Karlin, you've put my mind at ease! and hopefully in 8/10 weeks we'll have a new "member"

Nicki
25th March 2007, 08:44 PM
Just a warning about leaving your dog with someone with no dog experience...

The daughter of one of our neighbours left her two young Cocker Spaniels with her Father whilst she went away. He has an immaculate house, has only ever had a cat and sadly really doesn't know much about dogs...

He took both the Cockers in his car to the nearest town to visit his girlfriend. The dogs weren't secured in the car, and as soon as he opened the door, they both shot out. Fortunately the girlfriend grabbed hold of one of them, but the other one ran out into the road and was knocked down and killed instantly by a van - driving at under the 30mph limit :( :( :(

So sad.

*Pauline*
25th March 2007, 08:58 PM
I'd delay the puppy coming home till after your holiday. My breeder did this for me as I had two things I couldn't cancel. :flwr:

Becs
25th March 2007, 09:21 PM
Hi Karlin

Would it be possible for you to give me the name of the kennel that you use for your dogs, is it in Dublin?

We might be going away this summer and that place sounds ideal. It would give me peace of mind to know that Odie was been well taken care of.



Thanks

Rebecca

Karlin
25th March 2007, 09:48 PM
Heather, if Harry and the pup are going to be kennelled together, I'd be even less concerned. My three all go in to one kennel and sleep on their own bed in a pile. Six months is also fairly old -- it's not like a 12 week old puppy being left. I never like leaving them anywhere when I go away but I never agonise over it when I'm away, once they are dropped off, as I know they always had a good time when boarding, and do now, in kennels. And Jaspar shrieks when he realises I am leaving. But I know on good authority he is off playing in the garden with hardly a thought for me within 5 minutes and a treat of chicken :roll: :lol:.

Rebecca I'll PM you the info when I get the chance.

Cathy T
25th March 2007, 09:55 PM
We have a pet sitter who stays at our house with the pups when we are out of town (all of 2 times in the past 4 years! icon_whistling ). We know Janet is really good with the dogs. That said....if she weren't available my first place to look would be a good boarding facility. I would know they aren't going to run out someone's front door or cause anyone any problems. I would have a much better vacation knowing they are totally safe.

Harry & Heidi's mom
25th March 2007, 09:55 PM
Hi Karlin,

Yes Harry and the pup would be in the same kennel, but not mixed with other dogs, the kennels are like mini conservatorys all heated/cooled when needed with their own T.V's!!! and room for sleeping and their own area for playing (this is closed off at night) also 2 walks a day as well as a 30 min outside rough and tumble in a secure paddock so loads of room to run around, and a groom too.
they really do have everything your dog could ever need/want.

Justine
25th March 2007, 10:08 PM
glad this topic has come up,its intresting to see opions.but the kennels sound ok,karlin has made some good points.and so have all the others.

Lucy's mum
25th March 2007, 11:30 PM
Our two went into kennels for the first time in January. Henry was 6.5 months then and Lucy was 11 months. They were in for 6 nights. When we picked them up they were happy and just fitted straight back into house routine with no different behaviour.

They were both together in a shared pen - I think that makes a big difference. We have always kennelled our dogs about once a year, and started before they were a year old so they would be more adaptable. 6 months is the youngest I would do it though. I actually feel happier putting them into kennels than I would leaving them with friends. I was glad my border collies were used to kennels as I had a year of bad health and had to be in and out of a specialist hospital 200 miles away so they were in and out of kennels then but they coped fine.

I know our kennels staff well by now and trust them. I would always rely on personal recommendation to find a new one (we're moving area soon).

lindsey
26th March 2007, 02:39 AM
I worked at a veterinary clinic's boarding kennel and I think it would be fine, IF you knew what kind of care your dog would receive while there. I was always sure to pay EXTRA attention to young dogs (extra walks, more individual playtime, etc.). I would recommend you definitely go for the bigger size kennel (run if they have one). We allowed people to even bring their crates and put them in the runs with their dog, if it would fit.

I would just talk to your boarding place and ask them what kind of accomodations they have for puppies. I know I would often just hold the puppies during the day if I wasn't busy!!!

hope this helps!

Crittercall
26th March 2007, 03:50 AM
Heather, most of the places I worked have also had boarding facilities - even if it was limited to clients. Of course, since everyone knew me and my dogs I never had any problems about leaving them.

I understand your hesitance, but I can almost promise that a puppy (and both dogs being Cavaliers) are going to get the attention that they need and deserve. The place you use sounds more like a 5-star hotel! Wish I had somewhere like this to leave my crew.

As Lindsay says, ask what you can/should bring from home. Some kennels would rather not risk your personal items being abused from someone who might get a tad bored and use their own things. Don't be hesitant about writing up a sheet of directions for each dog. We used to have two lhasas who always came in with one sheet for each - they were both on meds, teeth brushed, hair brushed, etc. It was good to know what the dogs were used to.

Take their own food with them!! Don't put them on whatever is used in the kennel for the time you are gone - not worth the upset stomachs. Take their food, clearly marked, and be sure to write down how much food each dog should get.

Caraline
26th March 2007, 04:28 AM
I agree about not allowing friends & family mind the dogs, unless they are very experienced dog people. Those who do not have dogs themselves are totally clueless about how easy it is for a dog to escape out of a door left ajar, an unscreened window left open or just dash out as they are walking through the door themselves.

Even people with their own dogs can under estimate the Houdini efforts of a dog that they are minding. Their own dog may never dream of jumping over or digging under a fence, but the visiting dog might have other ideas.

I'd go with the kennel.

lbyerline
26th March 2007, 06:13 AM
It is our belief that our kennel is much better then home boarding or having a friend babysit the dogs.
While our Aussie would have no problem being home alone for a week or 2 and having someone come to feed and pet her, she actually enjoys the extra peace and quiet when she gets to be alone, no kids or younger dogs to bother her ;)
My Cav's though I can not trust at all. Even a short 20 minute trip to the store will cause every piece of paper in the vicinity to be chewed up by my boy. They typically go everywhere with me so when they have to stay home they do not appreciate it and view it as punishment. So they do require kenneling here at home.
When we go out of town they, all 3 dogs, go to our vet who also has a doggy hotel. They do great here, the board together and play together. They are all bathed and trimmed and my aussie is clipped as needed. They come home and are very happy.
There is no need to worry about my cavs chewing something up at a friends, having a friend babysit at home and them forgetting to kennel or leaving them in the kennel too long during the day. I don't have to worry about someone escaping and looing for me which has happened in the past when they have been left with my husband.
For us it is just much safer.

I would not give up on the pup just because of your trip and I would also not reschedule your trip because of the pup. I would try to delay getting the pup until after you return but if that is not possible I would get the pup as early as possible and let it become attached to your other pup so it feels a kinship while they are together at the kennel.

Zippy
26th March 2007, 07:33 AM
If the pup is with Harry, they'll be fine in a boarding kennel.

We've left Charley at our vets' boarding facility and he was spoiled rotten...just what I wanted for him! :)

Harry & Heidi's mom
26th March 2007, 08:38 AM
Thanks guys,

you've really put my mind at ease, and as Harry is 2 next month i feel he's a good age to add another and have finally found the pup for us *fingers crossed*
He's a RUBY, was born yesterday morning and we *think* we are going to name him Morgan, will post pics when i get some

Lisa_T
27th March 2007, 02:24 AM
Karlin- please remove this if it's illegal, but I was wondering if we could have a list somewhere of kennels etc that people here have used and would recommend- in all countries, not just here. If visibility is an issue, perhaps such a thread could be password protected/member only access?

I know I have to go to Europe for a big conference in August for a week, and I think I'd relax better if the dogs were together in a safe kennels. I have left them with family, friends and breeders- but don't want to do the latter, and the former isn't always practical. It'd be good to know what kennels/boarding people would recommend.

lindsey
27th March 2007, 09:31 PM
yes Karlin, can we have a list?!

Laura&Lia
28th March 2007, 02:28 PM
Harry's mom,

I would leave Lia in a boarding kennel too. I left her with a friend two days and then I felt so guilty for the friend, because even if you have a dog, a puppy is more much work that an adult dog.

I guess that you know the kennel and you like the way they take care of your furbaby!! Go ahead!

:flwr: :flwr: :flwr:

P.S.: I don't know how is Harry, but Lia loves to be with other dogs. When I go to see a friend who has a cavalier, she starts whining the moment we cross the door for leaving!

tomaarash
28th March 2007, 11:45 PM
I offer a service to people i know and as a breeder to people I sell puppies to.This works out really well as it is a comfort to the owners to know that their dog is going back to where it was born and loved for the first couple of months of its life.I dont have the dogs sleep inside my house at night as it caused problems with my own 2 who stay inside.I have a purpose built kennel with heating for night time and outdoor kennels for during the day,I also have a big garden where they can run around at least 3 times durning the day depending on the weather and they also come into the house durning the day for a bit of one to one attention and a bit of a sniff around! very important!!The owners love to see them mixing with other dogs and my kids aswell,who love to see the babies coming back time after time,one of my clients even books her holidays around mine.I think if you choose to board your pup or dog in kennels you really need to do a lot of research on individual kennels.

Joanne M
29th March 2007, 01:14 AM
Heather go on holiday and have a wonderful time. It sounds to me like you are familiar with the kennel and have faith in them. Harry will be with the new puppy too.