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merlinsmum
26th March 2007, 09:55 PM
Ch Rheinvelt Rongold Von Salador (Gr, grandparent)
Ch Devon Lass of Homerbrent at Ricksbury (Gr, Gr grandparent)
Choya my kind of Fella (Gr, grandparent)
Ch Harana Too Darn Hot (Gr, grandparent)
Choya Double Scotch (grandparent)
Granasil Black Jack (grandparent)

Be nice to know if anyone on the board has cavs related to mine :D
Edited to add:
Celxo Dancing Rain (Gr, Grandparent)
Ch Ricksbury Tommy (Gr, Grandparent)
Heronbank Fascination (Grandparent)
Granasil Maggy May (Grandparent)

So perhaps a little less world wide going down to the grandparents

Karlin
26th March 2007, 10:13 PM
Well, I can tell you *everyone* on the board will have a cavalier related to yours because they are all related at some point -- would be very hard for them not to be, as they all go back to 6 British dogs. :)

In direct relation, my boys would have some Choya (including Double Scotch) and Homerbrent and Salador in the not too distant past.

I have a 10 generation pedigree for Jaspar and just about every familiar English and Irish kennel name of that time period is in there somewhere once you go back that far. :lol: EG Pargeter, Crisdig, Homeranne, Tnegun, Alansmere, Ottermouth, Chantiz, Ttiweh, Kindrum, Amantra, Glencross, Bacchante, etc

WoodHaven
26th March 2007, 10:34 PM
Ch Rheinvelt Rongold Von Salador (Gr, grandparent)
Ch Devon Lass of Homerbrent at Ricksbury (Gr, Gr grandparent)
Choya my kind of Fella (Gr, grandparent)
Ch Harana Too Darn Hot (Gr, grandparent)
Choya Double Scotch (grandparent)
Granasil Black Jack (grandparent)

Be nice to know if anyone on the board has cavs related to mine :D
Edited to add:
Celxo Dancing Rain (Gr, Grandparent)
Ch Ricksbury Tommy (Gr, Grandparent)
Heronbank Fascination (Grandparent)
Granasil Maggy May (Grandparent)

So perhaps a little less world wide going down to the grandparents

I think it is Rheinvelt Ringold von Salador (bl/tan)

Eng Ch. Devon Lass of Homerbrent at Ricksbury
a Homeranne caption daughter

Choya my kind of Fella, Choya Double Scotch -- My Homerbrent Erica is 1/4 Choya

Harana Too Darn Hot-- prolific ruby (Nancy's Nina goes back to this one)

Well, that is enough connect the cavalier for right now-lol

Lynn
26th March 2007, 11:37 PM
WOW! Merlinsmum, I can't believe it....Maxwell's gr gr grandmother is named 'Choya Dream on' and her mother is named 'Choya Dreaming is Free'...could it be from the same family with your "Choya my kind of Fella (Gr, grandparent)"?? I truly know little to nothing about pedigrees.

It says on his pedigree papers that Maxwell's father came from Roscommon, Ireland. Maxwell's mom came from Hungary.

WoodHaven
26th March 2007, 11:55 PM
WOW! Merlinsmum, I can't believe it....Maxwell's gr gr grandmother is named 'Choya Dream on' and her mother is named 'Choya Dreaming is Free'...could it be from the same family with your "Choya my kind of Fella (Gr, grandparent)"?? I truly know little to nothing about pedigrees.

It says on his pedigree papers that Maxwell's father came from Roscommon, Ireland. Maxwell's mom came from Hungary.

Choya Dreaming is Free is the great grand pup of Choya My Kind of Fella

Lynn
27th March 2007, 12:11 AM
So, the answer would be 'yes' Maxwell is related to Merlin and / or Oakley....cool! Maybe later I will list some of the names on his pedigree and see if we have more connections in the group. :flwr:

*Pauline*
27th March 2007, 01:38 AM
Hey karlin, you're right, I have CH Alberto Of Kindrum as great great grandparent.

Grandparents:

Salador Celtic silver
Muffity Darling Megan
Muffity Jacob
Muffity Challis & Lace

Great Grandparents:

CH Grantilley Shadow Moon
CH Salador Celtic Magic
CH Pascavale Ryan
Muffity Adorable Sophie
Muffity Which Leo
Muffity Mona Lisa
CH Emsmere Royalist
Muffity georgette and Lace

Great great Grandparents:

CH Grantilley Indian Springs
Grantilly Ballerina Bay
CH Pamedna Fan-Tc
Ch Salador Celtic Roon
CH Lorankas Celebration
Pascavale Rio
Muffity My Boy Sebastian
Muffity Adorable Fe-Fe
Muffity My Boy Borris
Muffity My Lady Diana
Muffity Frankey Boy
Muffity Adorable Gemma
CH Alberto Of Kindrum
Emsmere Tinsel
Muffity Mystical Magician
Muffity Ribbons & Lace

Anyone related to this lot?!
:flwr:

WoodHaven
27th March 2007, 01:48 AM
Ch Grantilley Indian Springs

*Pauline*
27th March 2007, 01:52 AM
Ch Grantilley Indian Springs

Wow, did I only get one name wrong?!! :shock: How did you know? :flwr:

WoodHaven
27th March 2007, 01:56 AM
Ch Grantilley Indian Springs

Wow, did I only get one name wrong?!! :shock: How did you know? :flwr:

The name of the dog sounded familiar-- so I did a little research. I did a pedigree search on what I thought was an offspring. Ta da--lol I really like looking through pedigrees. I am not very familiar with certain lines or wholecolors.

Lynn
27th March 2007, 02:09 AM
Thanks for the help Sandy! :flwr: I doubt I would have made that connection without your help. :D

Lisa_T
27th March 2007, 02:14 AM
Both of mine are fairly closely related to yours in terms of generations, Kirsty- no real surprise given all four are wholecolours!

It was more of a surprise to see relatively recent ancestors in common with Dylan, but then the common ancestors are Salador Celtic Magic and the ubiquitous Alberto of Kindrum. Holly has a LOT of Loranka in her pedigree; Amber is mainly Charterwood.

Kodee
27th March 2007, 08:07 AM
We are related my dear! OK our dogs are: Kodee's Great Great Grandfather is the same as one of your's Ch Harana Too Darn Hot (her dad is a ruby.

I also recognized a few other U.S. names on her papers: great, great grandparents Rutherford Elliot of Shagbark, Sheeba Show Special de la Vigie, Rutherford Xavier, Salador Celtic Dirk. Kodee's grandfather's (on her dad's side) is Ch Turretbank Samson and her grandmother Am.Can.Ch Sheryane Rutherford Jamieson.

misty
27th March 2007, 12:37 PM
Ch. Alberto of Kindrum was my darling Cracker's grandfather :) :).

Cracker's father was Charterwood Mascot, Alberto of Kindrum's son.

Lisa, I've had 2 Charterwood dogs - what are the names in the pedigree?

3 of my current 4 cavs don't have pedigrees, as they are rescues, but Cailean is Dheripark.

Lisa_T
27th March 2007, 02:25 PM
Here's all the Charterwoods- generally the ones at the top of the list are the more recent ancestors, and it's from a 5 gen pedigree.

Charterwood Ragamuffin
Charterwood Mystify
Charterwood Calvin
Charterwood Victory
Clockpelters Roll on By Charterwood
Charterwood Model
Royal Lass from Charterwood
Charterwood Jasper
Charterwood Madonna
Charterwood Contraband
Charterwood Pure Copy
Charterwood Velvet
Royal Accasion(sp?) at Charterwood
Charterwood Contessa

and

Charterwood Mascot.

Amber's maternal grandmother is Charterwood Vogue at Drumadowney and her maternal grandfather is Charterwood Hot Mustard at Drumadowney.

Justine
27th March 2007, 02:32 PM
i cant find anything from alfs papers.

mishmosh
27th March 2007, 02:38 PM
I cant find my dog's papers, but I know his father is Harana Smokey Joe. I just googled him:

Grandparents:
AKC CH Harana Smokey Robinson
Leelyn Louisa Harana

Great grandparents:
Leelyn Dixie Land
Billie Jean Harana

Great grandparents:
Leelyn Red Warrior
Rheinvelt Ready Maid


Great Great grandparents:
Leelyn Moodie Blue
CH Harana Too Darn Hot
Sheilings Gypsy Rose
Leelyn Louisa Harana
CH Knight Magic at Harana
Leelyn Chaflur
CH Buckny Mellow Man of Chamanic


So yes! Our dogs are related. CH Harana Too Darn Hot was a busy sire obviously! :p I will have to get the papers out to find info on the mother.

Barbara Nixon
27th March 2007, 03:06 PM
These are the first three generations for my boys :

Monty

Mirabelle Masquerade
Peverwitch Prudence

Sanikro Strike it Lucky
Intrinsica Charybdis
Sunninghill Bolero
Hillyacres Rosette

Salador Celtic Magic
Sanikro Elania
CH Crisdig Cracker
Lady Cristal Intrinsica

Izzy (was Acewall All at Sea)

Salador Comet
Huntsbank Sequin of Acewall

CH Salador Crismark
Salador Celtic Honey
Amblecroft Jamie at Claytonia
Huntsbank Polyanna

Salador Clown So Happy
Salador Cascade
CH Salador Celtic Prince
Ronnoc Harvest Belle
Salador Casanova
Hillyacres Petite Fleur
Amauri Moonlight Maestro
Chambellay Chanel of Huntsbank

Joly (Acewall Enchantment)

Grastaff Living Image
Acewall Chasing Rainbows

Lyndabelle Destiny of Grastaff
Lyndabelle Harmony of Grastaff
Huntsbank Vidor at Acewall
Homerbrent Josiane at Acewall

Hillyacres Special Pride
Homerbrent Pengracie at Lyndabelle
Hillyacres country Boy
Hillyacres Tinkerbelle
Sanikro Loadza Pezaz
Chambellay Chanel of Huntsbank
CH Toraylac Joshua
Homerbrent Caelina

Teddy (Acewall Enterprise)

CH Homerbrent Expression *
Toraylac Felicity at Acewall

CH Homerbrent Illusion
Homerbrent Calina
CH Milkeyn Sheer Magic
Toraylac Exquisite

CH Homerbrent James Bond
CH Homerbrent Tradition
Homerbrent Carkeel
Cottismeer Jasmin of Homerbrent
CH Toraylac Joshua
Milkeyn Something Special
CH Homerbrent Expression *
Toraylac Dollybird

* Odd having your great grandfather as your father .

deb_d
27th March 2007, 03:22 PM
Some of the pedigree of my dog Rocky, Millbranch Traffic Jam

Father :TURRETBANK RED HOT SECRET
TURRETBANK DEACON BRODIE
TURRETBANK THOMAS MCTAVISH
TURRETBANK FRANCESCA
TURRETBANK HOT SOCKS
ENG CH HARANA ROCKSTAR AT DENSTONE
TURRETBANK HOT CITY NIGHTS

Mother :MILLBRANCH PRINCESS LEIA (Litter mate of Nancy's Graham)
NARAYDEN GOLD HARVEST DOWNSBANK KENSINGTON
NARAYDEN GOLDEN MOMENTS
KIM SWEET RUBY THE EMPRESS' REFUGE
INT SCHW CH HARANA CAPTIAN WISKY
SWEET-SURPRISE THE EMPRESS' REFUGE

misty
27th March 2007, 03:52 PM
Oh, this is a great thread :)

Lisa, my lad Charterwood Cracker was used at stud once by Clockpelters and Mascot was his daddy :).

merlinsmum
27th March 2007, 08:37 PM
CH Harana Too Darn Hot was a busy sire obviously!

Hey, he was obviously hot for the ladeeeeeez - I think he is what americans would call a "gigalo" and us uk's call a "bit of a lad"

He obviously just wanted to share his oats :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

mishmosh
27th March 2007, 10:22 PM
CH Harana Too Darn Hot was a busy sire obviously!

Hey, he was obviously hot for the ladeeeeeez - I think he is what americans would call a "gigalo" and us uk's call a "bit of a lad"

He obviously just wanted to share his oats :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I 'googled' the name and my goodness what a lot of ancestors!!

I also found this out: CH Harana Too Darn Hot (Ruby) (Born 9/24/92) (1995 BOB winner at Cruft's Dog Show)

WOW!! :p

Maxwell&me
27th March 2007, 11:22 PM
Hogan has Harana Too Darn Hot as his GGG Grandfather on Dads side too!

also Leelyn, Valanroy, Homaranne, Rosscrea, and Myhope.

( Sorry guys, way to much to type and I have NO IDEA how to look it up and post. Very interesting Thread

;) )

mishmosh
27th March 2007, 11:40 PM
It's amazing what you can find out. I just found my puppy's half brother in AUSTRALIA!!! :p

except, I've just noticed that Ch. Harana Too Darn Hot is on BOTH sides in that line. Inbreeding :sl*p:

WoodHaven
28th March 2007, 12:25 AM
It's amazing what you can find out. I just found my puppy's half brother in AUSTRALIA!!! :p

except, I've just noticed that Ch. Harana Too Darn Hot is on BOTH sides in that line. Inbreeding :sl*p:

Maybe it is just 'linebreeding' and not inbreeding

Lisa_T
28th March 2007, 01:53 AM
Oh, this is a great thread :)

Lisa, my lad Charterwood Cracker was used at stud once by Clockpelters and Mascot was his daddy :).

There's quite a bit of Clockpelters in there too. Also Turretbank and Leelyn as well as the obligatory Kindrums, Homerbrents and Soratas. Was Cracker a Blenheim?