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Donna27
24th April 2007, 11:31 PM
....someone blatantly asks you how much your Cav cost, or another comparably annoying question?

I took Fiona to this great festival out on the coast this weekend, where, of course she made 25 new friends, and one woman who had been petting her and asking questions suddenly goes "How much was she?". Now, isnt that a personal question? Grrr I just hate it when people ask that, or say "wow, sounds like an expensive breed" and gives you some hoity toity look. Usually people either assume she's a Cocker, or the other day someone actually thought she was a Papillon (!?!), and when I say "oh, she's a Cavalier King Charles Spaniel" they look at me either and have this look automatically stereotyping me and saying "wow, must be expensive", or they go "oh, you mean like a Cocker". grrr.

Not saying there arent those amazing people that go "awww a Cavalier! They're great dogs!":D

Karlin
24th April 2007, 11:37 PM
It is rude to ask but many people do -- they could at least say, 'what would be a typical price for that breed' or similar. I always answer that the minimum price from a reputable breeder who does proper health testing etc is (fill in the blank with your region's price). That avoids a direct answer but hopefully gives an answer that, if they are thinking of a dog, gives them a guideline for good breeders.

People here are always amazed that Lily came from the pound and was 'free' (of course she wasn't, I had to pay her costs while she was in the pound, pay a release fee, and pay for a dog license). They have no idea how may purebred dogs end up in the pound every week, as well as lots of lovely mixed breeds needing homes.

natalieandmike
25th April 2007, 12:21 AM
Get asked that all the time. 'how much did she cost' and "what a cute cocker spaniel". Grrr.....:mad: must educate more people---Natalie

vikki
25th April 2007, 01:01 AM
I was asked b4 I brought my puppy home by the gal at the photo store! I was shocked. now I think I will say she cost 12 thousand usd. expensive enough to be outrageous, but not so expensive that if you had that kind of money, you would spend it. think that will keep them guessing. hehehe

Maxwell&me
25th April 2007, 01:18 AM
I just usually smile and say "enough"
:dogwlk:

Cathy Moon
25th April 2007, 01:30 AM
I usually laugh and say I promised my husband I'll never tell anyone!;)

moniechris
25th April 2007, 01:33 AM
My mother has been considering getting a cavie, since she has fallen in love with her furry "grandkids". She met a woman at a retreat who had her cavalier with her and they talked about various things about the breed. When it got to cost my mom mentioned how much I paid for Zoey and the woman said "Well...your daughter got ripped off. I only paid $400."

My mom later told me when she described the lady's dog..."you get what you pay for". ;) I love my mom!!:D :D :D

Caraline
25th April 2007, 01:53 AM
I find that a very rude question too, and as Karlin says if it was worded differently it wouldn't be offensive. I tend to be rather blunt when my feather's are ruffled, so if I think someone is just wondering what I shelled out for "an item" I say something like "more than a pair of joggers but less than a car" followed by an icy stare & they never persue the subject - yeah I am a bitch. If I think it is someone who is considering buying a CKCS or someone who is genuinely interested in dogs (as opposed to what I spend on things) then I say "well they are usually in the range of $--- and $---).

Any Moniechris.... go your mum!

Jessieca
25th April 2007, 02:34 AM
I get asked this a lot, and I usually just say the average price range for one in our area. We ended up finding Bailey for $500 USD, which is less than many other people have paid for theres. There were few breeders that had any available, and this breeder had 3, so we drove 3 hours to visit and meet with the breeder, and just FELL IN COMPLETE LOVE with Bailey. He was less expensive because he is considered "pet quality" i.e. he has white markings, cannot be shown, and was required to be neutered and not bred (which were our plans), but had his papers. I guess we ended up lucky, because he was VERY healthy, and is an amazing little dog, even though he did not cost as much as some of the others. I don't think I necessarily agree with the "you get what you pay for" regarding the post above, but it certainly can apply at times. I had quite a bit saved up for him, so he could have been 3x that cost, and I would have taken him home :) He was meant for us.

I do get asked CONSTANTLY if he is a cocker, which irritates me, but I am not even getting into that haha.

KingstonsMom
25th April 2007, 05:54 AM
This question makes me feel so uncomfortable and completely catches me off guard. I would never ask a stranger how much they paid for something! Plus, I feel like talking about how much Kingston cost makes it more likely for him to be stolen.

cavalicious
25th April 2007, 06:17 AM
I hate this too! I get more of the 'Oh those are expencive dogs!' and a funny look like their trying to say what a snob!

If anyone asks you again just try and divert them,

"Priice doesn't matter to me, if she was free or 10 thousand dollars I would love her all the same"

freesia
25th April 2007, 06:22 AM
I have been guilty of that, asking someone :o I didn't mean to be rude, I was just confused over what the prices should be. Saw loads at anything between £250 and £700, but asking did help me in getting Barney.:D

AT
25th April 2007, 07:25 AM
If I was asked I would probably say oh this one. Oh he's got loads of problems so he was free ( true or not) but they are normally X

Only because I worry that anyone who asks me the price is planning on stealing them later

Bet
25th April 2007, 09:38 AM
This is really a subject I feel so strongly about

I know the asking price for many Cavaliers here in Britain ,and I think that those Cavalier Breeders ,should be obliged to be doing Health Checks on their Cavalier Breeding Stock in order to at least to show they are trying to give the Cavalier Puppies the chance of a healthier ,longer life

Until Prospective Cavalier Puppy Buyers only buy their Cavalier Puppies from those Cavalier Breeders who do health check their Breeding Stock ,then I dont think the Heath Problems in the Breed will improve much

SO ,Cavalier Puppy Buyers ,the solution is in your hands.

Bet

Karlin
25th April 2007, 10:41 AM
It is very hard for a breeder do be doing appropriate health testing and then charge very low prices for dogs unless the breeder is selling puppies at a loss, so Bet, I agree that making sure (and SEEING the certificates ) for things like cardiologist clearances, eyes, hips and knees, and ideally, the MRI results for the parents should be the first priority, never the price, when buying from a breeder. In this way, cost is going to be DIRECTLY related to the quality of the breeder and the care s/he puts into her dogs and her lines. But at the same time, if breeders are charging around the going price for the breed, then definitely they should be able to show they HAVE DONE all these tests (though MRI-scanned parents may push prices up slightly -- but this should NOT be significant, especially not in the UK where there are very low cost scanning facilities).

When I am asked a price it is usually done in innocence by people who simply want to know what they cost and perhaps are thinking of getting a cavalier. It is rude, but in my experience never done with deliberate rudeness -- people are just ignorant and don't think how personal a question that is. That's why rather than be annoyed, let's turn the question on its head and instead give the general local price for the breed, stressing clearly that this needs to include evidence (certs) that the breeder health tests and breeds with regard to health. Most buyers will not know this and this is a great opportunity to let them know what they should be looking for. As Bet says WE have the power to help the breed by only ever buying puppies from breeders who fully health test and are health-committed and can show you the OFA certs etc. :)

Bruce H
25th April 2007, 12:19 PM
It may be a little off topic, but what really bugs Kris and I (and other breeders we know) is when we get a phone call or e-mail and the first question out of their mouth is "How much are your puppies?", like they're looking at this like buying a car. We will never answer that question right off the bat. We will try to spend some time educating them about Cavaliers, health, puppy mills, etc., etc. If the person on the other end will sit still long enough for that and show that they are really interested in more than just price, then we tell them what our puppies cost. However, if they really are only interested in price, we tell them we are not the breeder for them and they would do better looking elsewhere; they will never know what our puppies cost.

And I agree with what others have said, the question usually comes from people who just plain don't understand. In most cases I don't think they mean to be rude.

misty
25th April 2007, 01:41 PM
I agree with Bruce and Karlin.

I don't think people mean to be rude.

It's up to us members of forums like this to try and educate people. Whenever anyone asks me about the breed, I always mention MVD and SM and also try to encourage them to do their homework and try to source a reputable breeder.

If I was looking to buy a Cavalier puppy, I know how much I would expect to pay and what tests I would expect to have been done on the parents and pup. It is highly unlikely that I would ever buy a Cavalier puppy from a breeder over here though (no offence, Bruce), but one day I may cave for a black & tan or ruby ;)

What we all need to do is to discourage people from buying from 'dealers' who get their "stock" from the puppy farms. This is hard to do, as they are getting more and more credible.

There's usually no pain, no gain and a 'cheap' dog may not be ideal.

Cathy T
25th April 2007, 04:31 PM
Loved hearing Bruce's response.

It depends on how the question is asked. If someone flat out asks "how much did he/she cost?" My response is "they don't come cheap". If someone asks in the course of a conversation about Cavaliers I will go into serious detail and give specifics.

Donna27
25th April 2007, 05:13 PM
I completely agree with everyone that the majority of the time people dont mean to be rude at all, they're just curious. I think it's all in the wording. When someone comes up and goes "How much was your dog" it's much more abrubt and insulting than "wow, I love this breed, how much do they usually go for?" or somethingl ike that. I've gotten into conversations with people about cost where they truly are interested in getting a puppy and they value and listen to your answer, but when i give my answer that is "well they range from ____ to _____ but I recommend buying from a reputable breeder that does XY health checks" and then I get the "well she must be a snob to have paid that much for a dog look" it just drives me nuts! I want to look at them and go ACTUALLY, I'm a recent college graduate, have loved the breed for years, and did my research, and I made an intelligent choice for a dog I love. So THERE! :D lol. I guess I dont mind when people ask price, as long as they show some tact. I've seriously had people who I've met for less than a minute ask the rude way, and I just want to be like, "what gives you the right to ask me that right now!".

Joanne M
25th April 2007, 05:19 PM
When I began contacting breeders over the phone, I never brought up the issue of price. After a lengthy conversation I allowed the breeder to bring up the topic. I've also been asked how much I paid for Tucker and I answer similarly to many of you. I talk about the importance of getting a dog from a good breeder and supply the price range that I'm aware of. Another rather odd reaction I get is when I'm asked what breed Tucker is and I respond "cavalier" they seem to expect more than that, but yet when I respond "cavalier king charles spaniel" some act as if I'm creating an extra long name trying to make him sound like a "Fancy and/or Expensive" breed.

One thing I've learned since owning Tucker is that if I do not know the breed of a dog and wish to speak with the dog owner the best way to inquire is to first say, "what a beautiful dog you have, may ask what breed it is" As there are MANY breeds that I cannot readily identify myself.

Azriel
25th April 2007, 05:41 PM
not yet having a cavalier, i haven't had these experiences yet, and at least so far i have not been mistakenly been rude by asking an owner the price of their dog.

however, when i first starting looking into the breed, before doing any real research yet, just toying with the idea.... if i came across a cavalier, i would ask the owner if i could pet them and then mention that i was thinking about the breed. i would then usually ask if they liked their breeder or not and if they felt comfortable telling me who they got them from. most people felt comfortable teling me a bit about the breder adn if they liked them or not. hopefully this wasn't me being a rude dunce. heehee. actually, i still ask people if they like their breeders.....hmmmm.

we unfortunately have been having more backyard breeders cropping up around my neighborhood and this filthy nasty pet store near my house has started carrying cavaliers. i used to work at a restaurant in the same mall and have known employees for YEARS. the owner is a creep and only buys dogs from nasty cheap backyard breeders, i wouldn't even believe that his dogs a purebred. then charges an arm and a leg for the pups. he is charging $700 for the cavies there so i know a dog from a reputable breeder around here has to cost quite a bit more than that.

unfortunately, a friends aunt bought a cavie from that pet store without knowing anything about the breed. she saw it, thought it was cute, her dog is getting old so she thought she'd get a pup, and she brings it home. when i found out i lent her all my books and told her to do research into the breed because there are things you need to know to watch for, like MVD, etc. she had no idea!!! grrrr!!!! stupid her and stupid store!!!!! sorry i had to vent.

Jen
25th April 2007, 06:24 PM
This is really a subject I feel so strongly about

I know the asking price for many Cavaliers here in Britain ,and I think that those Cavalier Breeders ,should be obliged to be doing Health Checks on their Cavalier Breeding Stock in order to at least to show they are trying to give the Cavalier Puppies the chance of a healthier ,longer life

Until Prospective Cavalier Puppy Buyers only buy their Cavalier Puppies from those Cavalier Breeders who do health check their Breeding Stock ,then I dont think the Heath Problems in the Breed will improve much

SO ,Cavalier Puppy Buyers ,the solution is in your hands.

Bet

I couldn't agree with you more! After dealing with Abbey, I won't buy from anyone who doesn't MRI their breeding stock.

Molly's mom
25th April 2007, 06:30 PM
I usually respond, "she was a gift from my husband" and leave it at that. ;)

coconut
25th April 2007, 06:32 PM
i usually say ah enough and smile, that really annoys me when people ask that!

Molly's mom
25th April 2007, 06:33 PM
I couldn't agree with you more! After dealing with Abbey, I won't buy from anyone who doesn't MRI their breeding stock.

I also agree with Bet and Jen, with all of the heartbreak we have gone through with Molly, I wouldn't buy a cavalier whose parents had not been MRI'd. I would be willing to pay extra for a puppy who has had proper testing.

DanielleJ
25th April 2007, 06:47 PM
In the words of my mother: "I'll forgive you for asking if you'll forgive me for not answering".

This phrase makes people realize that what they've asked is inappropriate.

Or there's the "She's priceless".

To me, this is like asking a woman how old she is or if she appears pregnant, when she is due. These subjects are not to be touched with a ten foot pole. :D

Jessieca
25th April 2007, 07:01 PM
I agree that making sure (and SEEING the certificates ) for things like cardiologist clearances, eyes, hips and knees, and ideally, the MRI results for the parents should be the first priority, never the price, when buying from a breeder.

When we decided to get Bailey, we hadn't even thought to ask about MRI results unfortunately. The breeder did have the parents, and proof of check-ups for the eyes, hips & heart. I think in the future, when we decide to get our second cavalier, we will look for MRI results of the parents as well, because we don't want to have our dog struggling with a genetic problem like SM. It does make me a little nervous that maybe that is why Bailey was less expensive than some of the other dogs that I have seen, however like I mentioned in another post, he could have been 3x as much, and we would have taken him home - price wasn't a factor. This being our first dog, I think we should have researched everything better. We researched temperaments, etc, things like that, but not enough about genetic problems they may have. I am really thankful for this board, and all of the posts really pointing out how important these things are.

Friday's Mommy
25th April 2007, 07:25 PM
I would also pay extra for a puppy whose parents had been MRI'd too!! Her parents are all certified in everything else that's required but not MRI'd. I thought this was a good breeder but with what I know now I'm not sure.

We've had lots of people ask us how much Friday cost and we usually don't tell them but do say it's an expensive breed. The couple times we have they look at us like we're nuts! We also add that her medical costs have been substantial and to look for a very good breeder.

Cathy T
26th April 2007, 12:08 AM
In the words of my mother: "I'll forgive you for asking if you'll forgive me for not answering".


Love that Danielle!!

George19
26th April 2007, 09:52 PM
I got asked this today....I had my answer all ready thanks to this thread:cool:

Scouty girl
26th April 2007, 10:53 PM
One of my neighbors ask how much I paid for Scout. I told him she was a few dollars, they aren't a cheap breed. That wasn't enough for him, he said again, really, come on I really want to know how much she was. I was a little shocked at his persistence and told him, then I was upset with myself.

If someone was interested in the breed I wouldn't mind telling them, but he just wanted to know just to know. :rolleyes: