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lady and amber
5th October 2007, 08:14 PM
Amber had an Episodic fit this morning, the first one in over a year. the thing is I don`t know what triggered this one, they are usually triggered by overexcitement, overheating or stress, non of these happened this morning, we had just got up and let her out in the garden so she could go toilet when I saw her collapsed on the lawn, I did notice something different this time when she had started to come out of it her eyes were flickering, I don`t know any one else with a dog with this condition, so could do with some help, I have been to a vet on a number of occasions with her after she has had an episode, but he can never find anything wrong with her,

5th October 2007, 08:19 PM
1st-- I am so sorry that you and your baby are dealing with this issue.

If you google it you can find some information--

It seems they even have their own board--

5th October 2007, 08:23 PM
The links given are good for finding more information and I'd make sure your vet knows about the condition. If you join the discussion group at the EFS website others there can probably suggest a vet near to you that is familiar with the condition. If the episodes are that far apart though and aren't severe then it may not be something a specialist would consider a big problem anyway, but you could find out how to best manage a seizure from the others familiar with the condition.

lady and amber
5th October 2007, 08:25 PM
Thanks I am already on that board and have spoken to Dorothie before, that's how I realized what her problem was, going to email her and see if the flickering of the eyes is common.

5th October 2007, 08:26 PM
Could she have an ear infection ? the eyes flickering sounds more like a balance problem

lady and amber
5th October 2007, 08:41 PM
Don`t think she has a problem with her ears, this is more than loss of balance, she goes ridged and her back arches and is unable to move but is fully aware at all times, she has a look of utter terror on her face all the time it is happening, we found the best way is to pick her up and cradle her like a baby till she comes out of it

5th October 2007, 11:49 PM
The eye flickering is called nystagmus and is connected with episodic falling and even facial paralysis. I think it is a neurological problem and so she should see your vet.
By a strange coincidence, I have just lost (tonight) my ruby boy who suffered all these conditions, episodic falling, bilateral facial paralysis and nystagmus.
He died peacefully of old age at nearly fourteen years old.

6th October 2007, 01:58 AM
Ruth I am so sorry to hear of your loss. Did your boy have the myoclonic episodes throughout his life? My girl Sassy is almost 3 now. She had episodes from about 4 months to 10 months and none since. I am just hoping she has outgrown this but I worry she will have episodes again.

6th October 2007, 08:52 AM
Oh Ruth, I am so sorry to hear that.. my thoughts are with you. :(

lady and amber
6th October 2007, 09:42 AM
Ruth I`m so sorry to hear of your loss, your ruby boy had a long life despite having EF must be down to all the love and care you gave to him:hug:to you and will keep you in my thoughts. but you have given me some hope, I always have the fear of losing Amber when she goes in to one of these episodes, the last time I spoke to my vet about the episodes he went out and talked to another vet in the practice, then came back in talking about SM saying she wasnt displaying any clinical signs for it, I will take Amber to the vets on Monday and tell him abut the eye flickering.

6th October 2007, 02:48 PM
Oh Ruth i'm so sorry to hear about your precious Teddy - I guess it's a comfort though that he was able to pass peacefully at home - something we all hope for.

Nearly 14 is a fantastic age, a tribute to your love and care.

Teddy's namesake here sends his special love - we're thinking of you all

8th October 2007, 06:57 AM
Lynne I am sorry to hear that Amber has this condition. I can imagine this would be very distressing. I hope you can link up with some people who can offer some support.

And Ruth, I am so sad to hear you recently lost your boy. Fourteen is a great age, but still their lives with us seem so short. :(

8th October 2007, 08:51 AM
Hi Lynne, Prince suffers from episodic falling also, its been a year and a half since his last episode and I dont know what brought it on, he was just walking around outside and he have 3 in a row, it was very freightening. the website that you were given is very good, I found them all very helpful.
Ruth I am so sorry for your loss

8th October 2007, 11:01 AM
Ruth I'm so sorry. Age 14 is a wonderful age though; andit is always a gift to have them go peacefully like that, as difficult as it is to say goodbye. :flwr:

8th October 2007, 11:25 AM
Sorry didn't mean to take over the thread but just to say thanks to everyone for their kind words.

I shouldn't have written that night as when I re-read my post I have put that nystagmus is connected to episodic falling and I don't know if that is correct or not. What I do know is that Ted who suffered episodic falling also went on to suffer bilateral facial paralysis and the nystagmus was part of that. It cleared up after a few days.

8th October 2007, 12:26 PM
So sorry to hear of your little dog and if it is any comfort at all, my little Ruby Max has intermittant EF and the vet has put him on one 30mg Phenobarbitone daily. He also advised giving Max a small snack afterwards owing to the fact that their blood sugar goes down during one of these. Otherwise Max is totally fine and doesn't seem to have any related symptoms thank goodness. We found it very alarming the first time it happened, but now accept that it doesn't have to indicate anything serious.

lady and amber
8th October 2007, 06:43 PM
Hi Ruth, I`m glad that you posted, you set my mind at ease, just so sad for you I know how hard it can be when you lose a one of your dogs, all said and done they are part of the family, Amber`s fine now back to her normal self till the next one, I think Lady brought this last one on as she is in season and keeps trying to mate with Amber lol, have separated them now when not around to keep an eye on them Amber thinks she`s in heaven sleeping with my daughter at nights,