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Karlin
12th October 2007, 06:01 PM
Some here may remember that Leo was attacked by wasps during the summer. This time, it was Lily's turn -- she just started howling while on a walk along the creek and right away I knew what it would be and started hunting for wasps -- removed several from her where they will burrow down into her fur and sting repeatedly. :(

This time though I had Bendadryl in pill form in the house so was able to bring her home and give her the correct dosage of that to be safe, and then also an aspirin an the appropriate dose. She's clearly uncomfortable and keeps shifting around but was happy to have a piece of tripe so all can't be that bad.

I'll be glad for one thing when the weather gets colder and that is that the wasps won't be around.

I don't think she actually stirred them up; the dogs were joined by this huge Rhodesian mix who has always just loved my dogs. He's a big galumph and tries to play with them and smashes his way through everything so I imagine he probably disturbed them rather than Lily.

Cleo's Person
12th October 2007, 06:35 PM
Oh poor Lily. I hope she's feeling a bit better soon.

Celticharmony
12th October 2007, 06:53 PM
So sorry to hear this and thankfully you had the wisdom of keeping the Benadryl handy. I feel so sorry for Lily, but pleased to note that she has eaten, which I guess is a good indication that the worst is over. Happened to our Beagle in Cyprus, but won't go into detail as it wasn't pleasant, especially as we had a long wait for a Vet. From there on in I too keep a remedy close at hand.

Lynn
12th October 2007, 07:09 PM
Sorry to hear this Karlin! Poor Lily! :( Thank goodness she has a mum knowing what to do! I remember your post about Leo getting stung and thought then that I should get some bendryl to put in the 'puppy bag' I keep in the car...and guess what? I haven't done that. How do you find out the correct dosage for a dog? Ask the vet? I have a book that has some info about what people meds you can give dogs and once gave Maxwell some liquid Pepto Bismal for diarrhea...and my vet was NOT impressed that I had done so saying that they had better meds to give dogs. So, I have been shy of going to that book since then.

I always worry and think that stories like what happened to Leo & Lily are the universe's way of preparing me...a nudge to be prepared because it could happen to us....and I don't follow through!!! DH & I adore our two pups beyond comprehension and I need to be smarter about being prepared.

sallymum
12th October 2007, 07:20 PM
What a terrible thing to happen to u and ur little ones, not once but twice. At least this time u were prepered. Hopefully Jasper doesnt feel left out and decide that he too wants to know what it feels like to be stung with wasps.:) Hopefully Lily is already feeling awhole lot better. give her a :hug:from me and the gang.

Karlin
12th October 2007, 07:20 PM
I just put a chart with correct dosage information in the Health secion of the Library. :thmbsup: I'd meant to put the Bendryl in the car to have it there and of course hadn't got round to that but did have some at home.

She's a lot better now -- she was really in pain right after being stung though. I had to carry her to the car and she was just stunned. You can tell how unlike herself she is still by this picture -- normally Jessie wouldn't even dare be this close to her! :lol: Right now she has Jessie's sister Pippa on her other side, sitting on the arm of the sofa. Pretty amazing!

Not a great image as I had to hand back my great Nokia N95 but you get the general idea! :lol:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2048/1553077483_96979fcaff.jpg

Gem
12th October 2007, 07:21 PM
Poor girl, so glad she is ok!

pinkpuppy
12th October 2007, 07:23 PM
Poor Lily! :( Thank goodness she has a great mum in you, Karlin.

Eeva
12th October 2007, 08:16 PM
Poor Lily, she looks shaken. And thank you for the dosage chart, I'll have a look at it straight away.

Harvey's Mum
12th October 2007, 08:36 PM
Poor Lily hope she is back to her normal self soon. She looks so sad in the picture, big hug from Harvey and myself:hug:

It happened to our gerbil a few years ago, made his teeth fall out poor little might, so had to purify all his food from then on.

Anna (Mum of Harvey)

Scouty girl
12th October 2007, 09:12 PM
Oh poor sweet Lily, I'm glad she's doing better. It looks like you are taking excellent care of her and Jessie and Pippa are just trying to comfort Lily. I hope it's working.

Karlin
12th October 2007, 09:49 PM
Wow, a gerbil's teeth can fall out from being stung? Probably the stress and pain, I'd guess. It must really hurt if you are so tiny. :shock:

Well Lily is back scavenging around the kitchen so a bit of Benadryl and a baby aspirin seems to have done the trick for her.:)

I'm always so afraid they will have an anaphylactic reaction and swell up.

Claire L
12th October 2007, 10:08 PM
Thank God she's Ok:lotsaluv:.

Lynn, that's a wonderful idea to keep a puppy bag in the car, I never would have thought of it :lpy:.............. I purchased a car bag in Lidl a while back and didn't know what to do with it, so now it will be perfect for a doggie first aid kit :thmbsup:

Nicki
12th October 2007, 11:08 PM
oh no poor Lily - what a shame. Goodness I thought it was too late in the year for wasps, but maybe with the warm weather this month they are still out and about.

Thank goodness you were prepared - I think it is always wise to have such things available - we always carry a couple of litres of water in the car to cool the dogs if they get over hot etc...

Gentle hug for Lily, hope she will be much better tomorrow.

Cathryn
12th October 2007, 11:17 PM
Mum and Dad's girl Tilly encountered a wasps nest earlier this year, luckily her dense cost prevented stings. Poor Lily, glad to hear your quick thinking and the medication made her feel much better quickly!!

I always carry a change of bedding, kitchen roll, 1001 carpet cleaner with brush attachment, no vac 1001 spray and a pile of nappy sacks and a couple of carrier bags along with a big bottle of water and a towel when I have the dogs on board, I work on the "If you have it you won't need it, if you don't then you will" theory!! :lol: Will add Benadryl and Calpol to the box now!!

Chelle & Rex
12th October 2007, 11:20 PM
Poor Lilly - We had a nest of wasps in our garden for a while this summer and Rex got stung twice this year, first time it was on the ear and we had a dash to the vet, his face was all swollen and he couldn't breathe - we were scared to death. Second time was on the bum, we rang UCD animal hospital (it was late sunday nite) but he was fine after an hour -the shaking and trembling was horrific and scared us half to death!!
I hope Lilly is ok now x :p

Lynn
13th October 2007, 12:03 AM
Thank God she's Ok:lotsaluv:.

Lynn, that's a wonderful idea to keep a puppy bag in the car, I never would have thought of it :lpy:.............. I purchased a car bag in Lidl a while back and didn't know what to do with it, so now it will be perfect for a doggie first aid kit :thmbsup:


LOL Claire....my 'dog bag' is more like a baby's diaper's bag with doggie wipes but no diapers!!! I always keep some food and a water dish and a bottle of water, extra leashes and treats and toys....but NOT a first aid kit...which is more important...huh? I need to smarten up and get a first aid kit made up for the dogs. :)

Debby with a Y
13th October 2007, 12:06 AM
Oh Karlin, poor Lily!!! I hope she feels better soon!

I've learned a lot from this thread; I need to create a Puppy ER kit for the car. I have a first aid kit for pets at home but never thought to put it in the car!

Elaine 2
13th October 2007, 12:30 AM
I hope she's feeling better now her medicine kicked in and took the pain away

Caraline
13th October 2007, 01:15 AM
Poor little sweetie. Doesn't it just rip you up when they get hurt.

Celticharmony
13th October 2007, 01:21 AM
Ah, poor little darling, obviously shaken up and needs her peace and rest to recover from such a trauma. Hope tomorro will bring us good news and that Lily will be feeling so much her old self. Must have been awful for you too and so nice of you to take this picture of your doggie, knowing that we were all thinking of her. This really takes me back to what happened in Cyprus with poor Lucy our Beagle. A month later she suffered a snake bite, but not fatal I hasten to add! Hope Lily has a peaceful and painfree night. On a lighter note, please tell the wasps not to travel to Wexford!

*Pauline*
13th October 2007, 02:44 AM
Poor little girl. I hope she is better in the morning. Thanks for the dosage lists, I was going to ask for them. :hug: for Lily and you.

Cathy T
13th October 2007, 03:02 AM
Well, that's it. I'm putting together my first aid kit and putting it in the car! Thank goodness you knew what to do and had the supplies on hand. Thanks for updating the health info for us. Glad Lily's feeling better...poor little girl. Doesn't it just kill you when you can't explain to them what has happened and tell them they will feel better?!:(

vikki
13th October 2007, 04:30 AM
big kisses for lily

freesia
13th October 2007, 06:02 PM
I'm glad Lily is ok, she doesn't look too happy in the pic. We saw quite a few wasps yesterday and some were mating. Must be getting ready for the next season.

Celticharmony
13th October 2007, 09:21 PM
Any news on Lily today as she has been in my thoughts? Just hope all is well and that she is getting over her ordeal, sweet little girl that she is.

Karlin
13th October 2007, 10:36 PM
Oh she is full of beans again -- she was doing fine by our last walk last night. It does seem that the first two hours are especially uncomfortable for them. I will put a first aid kit into the car now for them -- it is ridiculous that I didn;t have it yesterday when needed and she had to wait and extra 30-40 minutes to get some relief.

Those ground wasps are *nasty*. They burrow down into their fur and will sting repeatedly. I pulled about 5 of them off her and she'd been stung several times by then. :( I thught we were ovr and done with wasps by now but the weather has been mild and I guess not. I have walked dogs in that area all the time for 4 years and never had this happen til this year.

Celticharmony
14th October 2007, 07:40 PM
So glad to hear Lilly is her old self again. May I please ask Karlin if a vet will actually give Benadril to me to keep as a first aid precaution? We have also noticed quite a few wasps during the warmer days of last week and even though we are fortunate that our vet is in the village, he is often out on calls, so I feel in the event of a wasp sting I would prefer not to have to depend on him and be able to treat my dog immediately to save him pain and discomfort.

Jen
15th October 2007, 04:49 PM
That is awful! Now Jaspar is a sitting duck as he's the only one who hasn't been swarmed! :(

How were the boy reacting, were they freaked out? Was Lily nervous the next time you took her out?

Lucy's mum
15th October 2007, 05:02 PM
Poor Lily. Glad she is better now but they do feel a lot of pain at the time!

Our Lucy was stung by a wasp a couple of months ago, while on a walk. My husband had to carry her home - just 10 minutes walk - as she was shaking, couldn't walk and was really upset. 20 minutes after the sting her paw had swelled up to about twice its normal size and she was breathing all rapid so we got her to the vet and had the cortisone and painkillers. By the next day she was jumping on and off chairs and quite happy but it scared us at the time.

*Jenný*
15th October 2007, 08:42 PM
Aw, poor Lily! I'm so happy we don't have many wasps in Iceland. I would've panicked, phew! If somethings happens to my dogs I just get hysteric....

Karlin
15th October 2007, 09:31 PM
Jen, the boys were oblivious to her -- they just wanted to keep running around having fun. Typical boys! :rolleyes:

I think she was stung perhaps once that time Leo was stung badly, so I was pretty sure she wouldn't swell up. That's always the real concern. I'm glad I have the benedryl tablets now. I wasn;t able to find the same thing here in Ireland but a chemist would probably know the main ingredient. I know you are supposed to get the plain old formula, not the one with anything extra in it.

Celticharmony
16th October 2007, 01:10 AM
Thanks for that Karlin, so will ask my Vet for the equivalent here so that I can keep it with me on walks. Just not worth taking the risk really.