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5th January 2008, 05:11 PM
I did a search to see if anyone else has asked this question but it said the word was too short and I am not sure what else the condition is called?

My kaytee has dry eye, it started in one now it is in both, I wondered do any of you have any recommendations as to what is good to use? she is currently having viscotears put into her eye about every hour and I go through a tube a week, also Hyprmellose every now and then to wash it out.

Why is my baby so poorly? i am telling you i am so glad I had her insured as she has had so much done, but I want to do ALL I can so any tips from your experiences? xx

5th January 2008, 05:58 PM
I have this problem when I do a search too.

6th January 2008, 01:40 PM
Dry eye..... is this when they don't produce enough tears? Bailey has this too!

6th January 2008, 04:27 PM
Every hour sounds a lot - I have Cavalier with dry eye and we put Viscotears in 4 times daily, on the advice of our vet. Did your vet say to do it every hour?

Perhaps this isn't helping her and she needs a different product such as Lacrilube? I really would take her to see an eye specialist, they would be able to advise you properly.

7th January 2008, 12:23 AM
thanks for your replies, Yes estelle that's what it is :( hope your Bailey will be OK.
I forgot to say I have taken Kaytee to see someone at Newmarket Animal Health Trust where she saw a specialist, We tried all kinds of stuff, Lacrilube wasnt a success it made her eye gunky and red, The vet there explained that it has a vaseline type texture and that it probably isnt that pleasant for kaytee when she blinks, We tried Optimmune, Stuff that costs a BOMB! but that didnt seem to help either, So we went to viscotears and that seems the most effective so far, The vet told me to use it as and when it is needed and I can often tell as kaytee's eye looks so dull and dry, another sign I notice if I have left it a little too long as I have been asleep (in the night) that her bottom eye lid starts to turn in :( and she cowers her head down as it is painful.
I say every hour but in the night I set my alarm and try to do it every few hours, Sometimes she can go longer in the day it seems to vary from day to day.
I wanted to ask you as you may have tried a treatment we don't have over here then I could speak to my vet, anything to help my kaytee is very much appreciated, thanks xxx

7th January 2008, 01:16 PM
i have sent you a PM. This could be Dry Eye/Curly Coat.

7th January 2008, 09:40 PM
Sounds like you are in UK? In US we use something called cyclosporin which is actually a chemotherapy drug, but has been known to reverse the condition entirely. I had a Lhasa where that happened. It's rare that it truly cures it , but it's worth asking about and is usually the recommended treatment here.

24th March 2008, 11:10 PM
We in Sweden use Ciklosporin aswell. One of our dogs has it, and she is doing very well with the drops.

25th March 2008, 12:57 AM
Can I ask what the difference is between dry eye and DE/CC? Is one simply an unpleasant condition, but not ultimately life threatening (trust me, I know all about dry eyes from personal experience), whereas DE/CC is seriously nasty? But doesn't DECC show itself young, as in the case of Emma's Daisy, and isn't Kaytee a mature dog?

Hope you don't mind me asking!

25th March 2008, 07:44 PM
Here's some information about both conditions:
And some other eye conditions:

We have seen several dogs with dry eye in rescue and corneal ulcers from the dry eye not being treated. As Sandy said, cyclosporin has been very effective in clearing the eye and the ulcers. We then use artificial tears. Has the vet done a tear test to see how much tears are being produced?

26th March 2008, 07:55 AM
For Dry Eye/Curly coat look at the coat, pads on feet, nails and eyes. This dry eye is a much more severe form of "normal" dry eye, the eyes are cloudy, nearly blue, sore and require constant hourly treatments. Keeping out of wind, rain and sun is a must, walk on grass not pavements. The pads on feet are dry, cracked, bleeding and the nails are different shapes and not regular set like normal nails, full of ring marks and snap and fall out causing lots of pain. the coat isn't soft and curly but harsh and brittle, it snaps of and is best kept very short.

DE/CC is seen when pups are born, the coat is a first give away. It is inherited and genetic. Parents can be carriers and not affected themselves. When the eyes open it is visable and when pups are given like this to the public then they should be fully aware of the care required when taken.

My heart went out to you Emma when you brought your baby home, I remember her very curly whiskers and the harsh coat in the photograph, I could have cried for you both. It's sad but there seems to be more of it around and people need to be aware of it in the breed.

It was hard work with my Honey, I went to the Animal Health Trust where we were looked after very well, it was trial and error, a skin specialist for one thing, an eye specialist for another, it is also thought to be an auto-immune disease and it was Cushings (an auto-immune condition also) that finally took her. Running the two illnesses was very hard for her. I'm told that this condition together (DE&CC) only appears in the CKCS. Also that affectedness can vary in severity.

Find an understanding vet, take information with you on this condition, get seen by a specialist, and if you need to PM about it then please do.


27th March 2008, 12:24 PM
We found the best thing was an expensive vet prescribed treatement - Optimune.

Tarmac used to have this - cant remember if it was once or twice a day. After years of red eyes and ulcers - and loss of an eye - wish the vet had put him on that earlier.

28th March 2008, 10:00 AM
I have a problem with openening the http://www.cavalierhealth.org/

Am I alone with that?