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*Pauline*
16th April 2008, 06:05 PM
Dylan managed to get off his extra long horse lead today, it frightened the life out of me and he wouldn't come back. I can't believe that huge clip came undone, it's bigger than any dog lead clasp. We were in the big park in town on market day with loads of cars around if he left the park. I nearly caught him once but he slipped away and I fell over. I finally got him as he sniffed some other dogs wee up a post! The lady I was talking to said I should have him neutered as he is just trying to find a mate and that's why he runs off. I have to admit all he wants to do is sniff other dogs wee. I went to the vet on my way home to book him in but it is too close to our holiday as I have to wait 10 days after the kennel cough vaccine he had today then the next appointment with the vet I want will be 3 days after that http://gfx1.hotmail.com/mail/w2/emoticons/smile_confused.gif So I have all this time to wait and maybe change my mind again!! I feel sick thinking about it.

Also in the park, and I'm still mad thinking about it, there was a Westie who playfully got on top of Dylan as he just lay there belly up, just playfully telling him who was boss I think, Dylan didn't seem to mind. But as the dog walked off he had blood coming out of his bottom, quite a bit of blood and I thought for a minute it was a bitch heavily in season. Well it was a boy so something was clearly very wrong. I told the owner your dogs bleeding badly and to go to the vet and she just said, "Yes I just noticed that". If that had been my dog I'd have wrapped him in my coat so he didn't drip his germs everywhere and taken him straight to the vet. They casually strolled round the park. I'm worried Dylan will catch something from him now as they were so close.

Dylan is very subdued now after his kennel cough vaccine and on the way to the vet (before he met the Westie) he passed a little yellow poo again so I am quite worried all round.:(

Lani
16th April 2008, 06:13 PM
Oh, Pauline, what a stressful time you are having! It must have been so scary to have Dylan run off like that.

:hug:

I know you've been struggling with the decision about whether to neuter Dylan or not. It's a personal decision, but for what it's worth, Lucky is neutered and I've never regretted it for a day.

I hope Dylan did not catch anything from that bleeding Westie and that his poo quickly turns back to normal. :flwr:

Barbara Nixon
16th April 2008, 06:13 PM
It is scary when they do that. when Monty was a pup, some men left my dad's gate open and off he went. I didn't think , at the time, that you shouldn't chase, though that is what your instinct tells you, so he kept on walking and I caught him when he sniffed some bushes.

I don't think he was after a bitch. He is just being a dog, using his keenest sense to explore his world.

Teddy's collar clip (the plastic part) once came undone whileI Iwas getting him out of the car, one evening, but luckily he came staright back to me (I had some treats, so perhaps it would be an idea to carry a few in your pocket; just incase).

*Pauline*
16th April 2008, 06:20 PM
Thanks for your replies Lani and Barbara, I am still a little shaken up to be honest. I did have treats Barbara and he nags for these at home but when we are out he wasn't bothered. He even spat some out half way through chewing. Chicken or sausage would have been better but I don't let him off lead usually so didn't see the need to carry these. I clearly need to practise recall for such an event and have good treats.

vicarrieous
16th April 2008, 07:09 PM
I am so sorry to hear this!

It is one of my biggest fears to have little Kipling run away or dart off. I am paranoid all the time.

I hope your day gets better and your little Dylan is ok!

Nicki
16th April 2008, 07:24 PM
I'm so sorry to hear this Pauline, you've had a scary time :(

Try to do lots and lots of recall work at home with Dylan, and then gradually build up to doing it with distractions, such as other dogs a little way away - you can do this on a long line so there's no danger.

It sounds like it might be sensible to have Dylan neutered anyway, there's no reason for you to keep him entire and he should be easier to manage. There are also the health benefits to think of.

That's terribly sad about the Westie - I hope they did take him to the vets. Keep a careful watch on Dylan as he will be a bit low anyway following his vaccination.

sins
16th April 2008, 07:32 PM
Oh the joys of dog ownership.Thankfully you caught him so quickly.I remember when Daisy did that a few months ago when she followed my husband when he went for a walk in the woods. Happily she came home unscathed.
Neutering Dylan is a good idea,it's not as bad as you think.I had a rescue belonging to Karlin(Max) and I was dreading having him done but he just had two dissolving stitches and was a bit wobbly on his feet for a few hours after but was bouncing around the back garden the following morning.
Of course it's no guarantee that he won't run away again,but might reduce the risks.The scents of a market area were probably stimulus enough to tempt him away.
Sins

Daisy's Mom
16th April 2008, 07:40 PM
Sorry about all that -- I know just how you feel, the panicked feeling, the sheer terror of him being hit by a car. Daisy's got out a few times and it is just the most horrible feeling. The only good thing with her is that we know she will run to the nearest dog or strange human (in that order), so we can predict where she will run and stop. But if a car went by first, I think she would run right under the wheels, so that is always the image that comes to my mind when she runs away. It is horrible.

Thank goodness it all turned out OK in the end. I doubt the blood exposure issue is significant healthwise although it is very gross and scary for the other dog!

Good luck with your decision.

cy1266
16th April 2008, 08:58 PM
I'm glad Dylan is ok :lotsaluv: That must have been very scary...that's my worst fear, too...Good luck making the decision whether or not to neuter him; neither of mine have been done, and Miles is also obsessed with smelling other dogs wees when we go for walks :rolleyes: Truman isn't old enough yet, but I'm sure his time will come. I'm just glad Dylan is safe!

Cathryn
16th April 2008, 09:17 PM
Oh Pauline!

I have been thinking of you today and now I know why!!

What an experience all round, if you feel there is a need to neuter then do it! Can only agree with Nicki in her advice Re Recall work, and I hope that the poor Westie's Mum really did get it to a vet, that does NOT sound good at all!! What a bummer of a day eh? :hug: :hug: :flwr: you know you can :blabla: if you need to ok?

Cleo's Person
16th April 2008, 09:32 PM
Oh my goodness! What a day. You must have been so worried when he got loose. I hope the Westie's Mum got him to the vet, that doesn't sound at all good.

Barbara Nixon
16th April 2008, 09:37 PM
Perhaps some dried treats (so they don't go off) and in a container, so you can rattle it to get his attention.. Also, do onlead recalls for treats. My springers used to go deaf , when in woodland, so i used to do frequen t recalls just to keep in touch. Sometimes they got a treat and sometimes just praise so it kept them guessing.

*Pauline*
16th April 2008, 10:36 PM
Oh you are all so kind replying, it makes me feel better. I am SO carefully with Dylan, I don't let him off lead anymore because I know he could run off as he is entire.

His recall was perfect from long distances and everyone would laugh at how fast he would run back to me! But twice he gave me a fright running off so I decided it was safer to keep him on a long lead, this lead must be at least 25 foot long so he gets a good run. Because of this, his only chance for recall in a long while has been when he slips upstairs and I call him down! I will practise loads of recall.

I'm not sure I'll trust him again though. My nerves can't handle it. :o

Here's a pic of his horse lead, those who ride horses might know what it's called.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2372/2419659486_ce389db9aa.jpg

Elaine 2
16th April 2008, 10:53 PM
Pleased to hear you got him back safely Pauline gives you such a fright, Ive got the same problem if l let Sophie my shih tzu off the lead, twice in the park in the last few weeks Ive had to chase after her so now Ive got to keep her on the lead, Ive never ever had this problem with Cody she stays right by me

Cathy T
16th April 2008, 11:13 PM
Gosh Pauline how scary!! So glad everything is okay though. This is really a prime example of why a dog's recall isn't always trustworthy and can't be relied on (I know this was an escape not a case of letting him off leash intentionally ;)) and why it's so risky to let them off leash. I'm just so relieved you got him home safe and sound. As far as the neutering....Jake says "no biggee!!":)

pippa
17th April 2008, 10:34 AM
You must have been so scared...It's my biggest fear too.

SamT
17th April 2008, 10:46 AM
Just a quick response, we brought our pup Sam to training and they trained us how to call Sam back to us if he runs off. It works very well. He got off his lead once on the road and we called him back and he came straight back to us. You have to keep doing it so he will remember to come back when you say "Sam come here" and he gets a treat when he does so he loves it. If anyone wants a copy of this part of the notes I can dig it out and send it to you.

I bring Sam to a big park near us and when there is no one around I let him off the lead and dont worry. Once he doesnt see kids he is fine!!

AT
17th April 2008, 12:05 PM
when my charlies lead snapped while she was lunging at a duck she was so shocked that she came back to ask me to put her lead back on , once she was on lead she went back to lunging at the ducks ,lol

If my dogs wont get come back for their lead I either walk the opposite direction or kneel down with my back to them & pretend to be looking at something .
My boy was quite naughty for not wanting his lead on at the end of a walk . but chasing after him only made him run away more

He's not well at the moment so he comes straight to me to have his lead put on as he is too tired to run off

Barbara Nixon
17th April 2008, 12:28 PM
Crackly cellophane is a good lure. It works every time when Teddy sneaks upstairs and I want him down immediately. He still hasn't sussed that cellophane doesn't mean food-but it just could...

Daisy's Mom
17th April 2008, 02:36 PM
Wow, Barbara, that's a good one! I think opening the freezer door might work with Daisy under the same principle. We keep her ultra special liver treats in there and whenever I open the door and especially if she hears the plastic bag come out, she's right there!

Scouty girl
17th April 2008, 04:47 PM
Wow, Pauline, I just caught up with your post. What a scary thing to have happen to you. I understand that feeling of panic when you can't get your dog to come back to you. Thank God everything turned out well.

A couple of weeks ago I was sitting in my living room watching tv. My front door is 1/2 etched and beveled glass. I could see someone coming up to my front door. I opened it and my neighbor was lifting Scout over the deck gate. Said he saw her running down the road :eek::eek::eek: and called her back and she went right to him. She escaped out of the yard. Then just two weeks ago I let Scout and Breeze out into the front yard (no fence). Breeze always meanders around to the frong door. Scout usually does too, but this time she took off. I ran around front calling her. Couldn't see here anywhere. I started to panic calling her name frantically. Then I heard her collar tags jingling. Luckily when I called her that time she came right to me. She was right by the street.

Hopefully you're feeling better today after that shock.

Louise1823
17th April 2008, 08:23 PM
Hi Pauline,

I know exactly how you feel - until recently, Mille has loved to scare me to death be escaping on me on one or two occasions.

The absolute scariest was one time when I had the living room windows slightly ajar to let the place air (thinking this was absolutely perfectly normal and safe!) I was upstairs cleaning around and noticed that she wasn't doing her ususal following me from room to room. I called out to her, and she didnt come - then to my horror when I looked out the bedroom window I could see her running from garden to garden in the houses opposite :eek: She had actually jumped onto the arm of the sofa and jumped accross onto the window sill and climed out of the window!

I totally panicked and my legs quickly turned to jelly :D. I ran after her with a biscuit in my hand - sure this would do the trick. The more I called for her and went after her - the further away from me she ran.

It was like she was playing a chasing game with me. I tried everything from sitting on the ground and then turning back and going in the opposite direction to her. She ran all the way to the entrance to our housing estate in the middle of the road!! - with me running after her like a crazed lunatic... To make it worse, I had no shoes on!! (Im sure anyone looking on must have thought I was a nutter) :D:D:D:D

Finally a little old woman walked towards me with a jack russel on a lead and I called for her to stop. The temptation was too much for Millie, and she stopped in her tracks to stop and give him a sniff!

I wasn't right for the rest of the day - Millie apparently had a great time..... Needless to say - the living room windows are permanently closed now ;)

*Pauline*
17th April 2008, 09:24 PM
Thanks everyone. Louise, my heat is pounding reading that! I use a double ended lead on normal walks so at least if one of those comes undone the other will be attached. I may sew another clasp on my long training lead but I still can't get over how a clasp strong enough for a horse can come undone.

I have a few tins of Royal Canin Intestinal tinned for so the last 3 meals he got through a tin and no upset tummy so at least I don't have that to worry about.

Training started again today. He did it perfectly, no smell of girl dogs in the house you see! He did a down stay while I walked away to the next room, called him and he ran straight to me each time ending in a sit, perfect! But can't be trusted outside with all his hormones right now!

jcj528
17th April 2008, 09:36 PM
Pauline:

The decision to neuter or not your dog is a very personal one. It should only be made after careful consideration and in conjunction with your vet. Having said that, I can tell you that the operation itself is very easy on the dog. Ziggy had his "op" two weeks ago today and accept for the obvious absense, you can't tell at all. He's the same as ever except that he's more cuddly than ever and he's no longer mounting everything and everyone. So though while you need to carefully consider all aspects of the surgery, you can pretty much forget things directly related to the "op" such as danger during the surgery, possible infection and pain because for all practical purposes they are nil. Whatever you decide the CT community is with you.

So glad to hear that the Dylan Boy is okay.

*Pauline*
17th April 2008, 09:46 PM
Thanks Julie. The only behavioural problem is he can't be trusted not to mark in other peoples homes (not my house though). I hope the urge to do this is more hormones than habit now. Either way, training will be easier without the hormones. The only place he has done this is in houses with female dogs, I put a belly band on him. My Mum won't let me bring him over unless we stay in the conservatory as she has a very expensive carpet. It would be nice to be able to take him there more.

pinkpuppy
18th April 2008, 12:01 AM
Gosh, Pauline. That is scary! So glad to hear Dylan is feeling better.:hug:

WoodHaven
18th April 2008, 12:10 AM
Thanks Julie. The only behavioural problem is he can't be trusted not to mark in other peoples homes (not my house though). I hope the urge to do this is more hormones than habit now. Either way, training will be easier without the hormones. The only place he has done this is in houses with female dogs, I put a belly band on him. My Mum won't let me bring him over unless we stay in the conservatory as she has a very expensive carpet. It would be nice to be able to take him there more.

You aren't alone with this issue. My boys will gleefully sneak in a leg lift when no one is looking if we visit. This is true for my neutered boys and intact.

Cathy Moon
18th April 2008, 03:56 AM
Pauline, so glad you have Dylan back safe and sound! :flwr: I have felt that same panic long ago when Colin accidentally left the side gate open and Geordie wandered out. It was such a relief to have him safely in my arms!

arasara
18th April 2008, 03:45 PM
wow Pauline I am glad everything turned out alright!! How scary :eek: Dylan and Faith could be partners in crime :D