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Karlin
9th July 2008, 10:23 AM
http://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/Article.aspx/730117?UserKey=0

This would be top of my book -- I know of several situations in which dogs were stolen and then seem to have been dumped when the thieves discovered they were neutered and could not be sold on to a puppy farm or similar vile situation.

If you have neutered your dogs, I strongly advise chipping as well and having a tag on their collar which clearly states the dog is chipped and neutered and that there's a reward for the dog's return. I have this on every one of my dogs. The combination makes it very unlikely thieves would ever want to keep the dogs and lets them know from the start what the situation is. :thmbsup:

Brian M
9th July 2008, 03:01 PM
Hi
My little ruby girl Rosie who is 1 on the 21st has an appointment at my vets this Friday to be spayed ,and talking to my wife this morning and thinking back to how upsetting for us all when Poppy and Daisy were spayed we almost faltered and cancelled ,but after reading all the posts again of course we realise she must be spayed for essentially her well being not ours. So i will be dropping her off at 8.30 am and then pester them on the phone from 10.00 am onwards to ensure she is OK but no doubt the vets will tell me to go away till 3.00 ,i did find on the web a cushioned soft inflatable head collar which looks a lot better than those cardboard conical things and i am well stocked up on my doggy medicine chest but if there is anything else i could possibly need to help make her a bit more comfy for the first couple of days pls advise .Thanks.

jld
9th July 2008, 03:13 PM
Brian, the hint I got from this board is to put a baby onesie on Dixie when I had her spayed a month ago. It was so soft and comfy, and I must say she looked adorable in it. It worked great!!! She was never able to get to her stitches and she was very comfortable. It was also easy to get on and off. And, you can just roll it up to her neck when she needs to go potty. I ended up getting her a 36 mo. As was suggested to me, measure your dog from neck to tail and then go to the store and find one that will work. Good Luck.. Dixie had absolutely no problems being spayed, and now you cannot even see her incision...

Brian M
9th July 2008, 04:12 PM
Hi Jld

Thanks for your kind reply and pls forgive my ignorance but i haven't a clue what a baby onesie is ,but guessing (even though been a dad 4 X over ) is it like a new born babies one piece suit ?.Thanks :confused:

jld
9th July 2008, 05:20 PM
You are correct. It is a one-piece body suit that has snaps at the bottom and snaps on the shoulder. You put the dog's front legs through the arm holes and then I put her tail through the bottom and snapped the two end snaps and not the middle one. Her tail fit right through the opening between the two other snaps. When they go out to potty, you can either take it off, or unsnap it at the bottom and roll it up to her neck. It really did work great.....The tricky part is to get the right size. I ended up taking back a couple because they weren't long enough for her. She is pretty long, I think. Let me know if you have any other questions. It will make more sense if you get one and put it on Rosie. Judy PS She was 15 mo. when she was spayed. So, she was full-grown.

Brian M
9th July 2008, 09:35 PM
Hi
just a few more points re Rosies spay on Friday ,i found a company named Noahs Arch Essences and ordered two items one called Post Surgery Recovery Essence and other Shock and Trauma essence with the hope that they may help Rosie in her recovery does anybody know these products or the company and what is your opinion any good or a waste of time and money.Thanks

nicola
9th July 2008, 09:55 PM
Good luck Brian. Lady goes in on Fri am for spaying. She turned 6 months yesterday. I have bought the babygrows in size 3-6 months and just tried it on her. It seemed to fit ok. Maybe a wee bit small but I am afraid the 6-12 month size would be too gaping and would then allow her to get at her stitches. Whoever thought of the idea is a genius. We have an Old English Sheepdog and when we got him neutered he came home with a gigantic lampshade on which hit into all our furniture and actually chipped paint off our walls in the house. Saying that I can't imagine that there are baby grows that would fit a 100 pound dog :jump:

nicola
9th July 2008, 09:55 PM
Good luck Brian. Lady goes in on Fri am for spaying also. She turned 6 months yesterday. I have bought the babygrows in size 3-6 months and just tried it on her. It seemed to fit ok. Maybe a wee bit small but I am afraid the 6-12 month size would be too gaping and would then allow her to get at her stitches. Whoever thought of the idea is a genius. We have an Old English Sheepdog and when we got him neutered he came home with a gigantic lampshade on which hit into all our furniture and actually chipped paint off our walls in the house. Saying that I can't imagine that there are baby grows that would fit a 100 pound dog :jump:

nicola
9th July 2008, 09:57 PM
sorry about the double post. Not sure how I managed that

jld
10th July 2008, 03:26 AM
I have never heard of those products, but I can only speak from my own experience. Her vet gave her antibiotics and pain medication to take for a week and other than that, and the onesie, that is all we did except try to keep her from wrestling, playing and jumping on the furniture. Really she did just fine. She was a little sleepy the first day and maybe a little the second, but after that she seemed her little self.....Whenever I had to leave, I just made sure she was in the kitchen with her bed and nothing she could jump onm or not with our other dogs. Rosie will be fine...Good Luck. You will be glad when it is over. Judy

hbmama
10th July 2008, 05:15 AM
Dottie is going in for her spay tomorrow morning...(Thurs the 10th.) I am going to go buy her onesie while she is at the vet. She is just under 16lbs, so what size do you think I should get????

I am really nervous about this whole thing but very glad we are getting it done. I am so happy we won't ever have to go through another season of solitary confinement and hormones running amok!!!

Brian M
10th July 2008, 09:37 AM
Hi

Best wishes to Dottie and a speedy recovery

Brian :thmbsup:

Poppy Daisy and Rosie :flwr:

jld
10th July 2008, 01:59 PM
Marianne, Dixie weighed 13 lbs. when she was spayed. She is pretty long, so I got her a 36 mo. but I am sure it also depends on the brand you are buying. Maybe she would need a 24 or 36 mo. You might have to get a couple of different sizes and take back what doesn't work. Good Luck. I was worried about Dixie, but she did just fine. Judy

Brian M
10th July 2008, 02:19 PM
Hi
Just popped out from work and got two baby vests so will do a try on tonight ,couldn't get pink so unfortunately its the colour of my football team Everton blue ,so if they fit will try and take a pic and if they don't i can sneak out of work tomorrow or call into Asda later.But i must say thanks its a great idea.:dogwlk:

nicola
10th July 2008, 10:26 PM
Brian, what size did you end up getting? I got Lady 3 to 6 months. It is a tiny bit small but the next size up was gaping and I was afraid she would be able to get at her stitches. I got a set of 3 in various pinks from Primark for £2 for the lot.

Brian M
10th July 2008, 10:27 PM
Hi
I messed up the two onesies i got they wont go any-ware near her fortunately Dawn is popping over to see all the new shops in Liverpool's brand new huge One centre that cost over a billion pound for Liverpool's Capital of Culture Year so being a woman and having a lot more common sense than me regarding baby grows she will get me 2 or 3 for when i pick Rosie up.
Now all i have to do is take her to the vets at 8.20 am then worry like mad all day ,its going to be along and horrible day so best thoughts for Rosie pls oh i am getting uptight now and poor Rosie doesn't whats coming, help and thanks pls,i am such a big wimp at times like this why cant i suffer instead of her its so unfair they don't know what to expect she will be so frightened .:eek:

nicola
10th July 2008, 10:34 PM
Hi
I messed up the two onesies i got they wont go any-ware near her fortunately Dawn is popping over to see all the new shops in Liverpool's brand new huge One centre that cost over a billion pound for Liverpool's Capital of Culture Year so being a woman and having a lot more common sense than me regarding baby grows she will get me 2 or 3 for when i pick Rosie up.
Now all i have to do is take her to the vets at 8.20 am then worry like mad all day ,its going to be along and horrible day so best thoughts for Rosie pls oh i am getting uptight now and poor Rosie doesn't whats coming, help and thanks pls,i am such a big wimp at times like this why cant i suffer instead of her its so unfair they don't know what to expect she will be so frightened .:eek:
I know how you feel Brian. I am going to be a nervous wreck at work all day tomorrow. We just got two bunnies and one of them died in its hutch yesterday for no apparent reason so my son is quite traumatised and is very nervous about Lady going under the knife tomorrow. Good luck for tomorrow. Our girls' will be fine and anyway it is for the best in the long run. I am going to have to keep reminding myself that tomorrow. Will be logging on tomorrow night to see how Rosie is.

Brian M
11th July 2008, 02:46 PM
Hi
Well its 2.30 pm and all is fine ,i dropped poor Rosie off at 8.30 am and the vet nurse applied a pre-med and told me she would be first up and to phone at 1.30 pm ,so of course i phone at 10.00 am and she was out shes been spayed and she also had (which i knew ) a little hernia repaired which they popped back so all seems OK .The 2 baby grows i got were size 0-6 months so it shows how much i know , and as i said prior Dawn was in Liverpool clothes shopping this morning so she got me a pack of 3 from M&S size 12-18 months ,as i work locally in Birkenhead i picked her up from the train station at 12 pm after she had finished shopping and run her home so i popped into the vets to see if i could collect Rosie but the vet said no she was still woozy and they just want to keep an eye on her so call back at 4.30 pm ,so Ive got some nice chicken breast just to tempt her a bit when we get home. So the day has been long and hard to concentrate at work buts its all over ,and i think when i take her back in 7 days for her stitch's and a check up i will take Poppy as well ,as Karlin was indicating that the amount of food i give her and that shes not really losing much weight could be a thyroid problem so i will let Mr Shepherd have a look and a think as its a bit disconcerting as i would like her lighter for herself ,most people think shes Daisy and Rosie's mum ,poor Pops would be a bit disappointed if she knew. Will post another update on Rosie when shes safely home been fed and popped into her onesie.Many thanks again to all.

Best Wishes and Kindest Regards

Brian and all :flwr:

Brian M
11th July 2008, 02:51 PM
Hi
Sorry to be back so soon but a question pls , how long before i can take Rosie back to have her stitches out.? :confused:

Tks
Brian

nicola
11th July 2008, 07:34 PM
glad everything went well brian lady is ok too.not great actually. whining a lot and she wont sit still. they didnt give us any painkillers home which they really should have as she is really suffering.im sure she will be ok tomorrow. the whinig is getting worse and i think the vet is closed now. sorry about all lower case letters but she is lying on my arm. brian the vet told us to come back in ten days to get stitches out. help i have a very distressed little girl here.

Karlin
11th July 2008, 07:43 PM
Many of not most vets don't give take-home painkillers after spay/neuter -- mine never do -- because they give them a painkiller injection at the time of the surgery. I've never had any dogs that were distressed after a neuter.

If you truly feel she is in distress then call an emergency vet as there could be a problem. This however is very rare. If you are fussing over her when she is whining then she may whine solely to solicit the extra attention so try and be sure this is not maybe encouraging her to behave this way? If you are in any doubt then call an on-call vet. :thmbsup:

Brian on stitches -- just give your vets a call in the morning. Usually it is 10 days but some use dissolving stitches -- however will still want to see the dog in about that time to check that the wound has nicely healed.

Brian M
11th July 2008, 07:54 PM
Hi
Well picked her up at 5.00 pm and she seems quite perky

hbmama
11th July 2008, 08:35 PM
Brian, glad little Rosie is okay. Dottie is doing fine, and she also had a small umbilical hernia fixed along with her spay. She fit right into her onesie. We bought the 6-9 month size and it is perfect for her. She is just under 16 lbs. She was a little sleepy and so we just skipped dinner last night and just had some small sips of water before bedtime.

I ended up taking her out on lead several times through the night so she could wee,and then back to bed.

She is just fine today and just relaxing and not acting as if she has any discomfort at all. I am of course carefully lifting her up and down so she doesn't try to jump on or off the furniture. It is a big relief have it over and done with. Hopefully Rosie will be up and feeling well soon!

hbmama
11th July 2008, 08:39 PM
Oh, I just read about Lady. Hope she is doing better today also!! Please keep us posted!

Re the pain meds, our vet sent us home with one 50mg pill of Tramadol, which had been quartered. He said that if she shows any discomfort that we could give her a quarter pill every 12 hours. So far we haven't needed it at all. She is happy and not having any noticeable problems thank goodness!

Brian M
11th July 2008, 08:51 PM
Hi
Picked Rosie up at 5.30 pm she walked out of the vets closed area to me so i carefully collected her up and gently popped her into her crate on the back seat of the car .Sorry just noticed the double post just as i am typing Daisy strolls over the keyboard and produced the other post not me ,sorry. Nicola my vet was the same no pain killers they said the tranquilizer helps control any pain for up to 48 hours , i made an appointment for 6.15 pm next Friday for Poppys weight problem so they can check her overall and if need be check her thyroid as Karlin suggested so i ll take Rosie so the vet can see her as well and mybe take her stiches out. So tonight so far gave them their tea for Rosie it was chicken and tuna and a few Burns biscuits and Poppy and Daisy as normal but some chicken as an extra ,then Luke and i took Pops and Daisy out on the Wirral Way for their walk though it was a bit breezy while Rosie stayed at home in her crate dozing and tonight i popped her into a baby grow and i definately think thats a cracking idea .I put up right by my bedside the fabric crate she used on hols (for one night till they all piled on my bed for the week ,it took Daisy five minutes to work out how to unzip her crate then she was out and on the bed so i gave in and we had a spare double bedroom in our holiday cottage so i slept in there with the girls so Dawn and Luke had peace and quiet in their own bedrooms all good fun though and trust it to be the ringleader Daisy) so Rosie is curled up asleep and she is staying right by my bed till her stitches come out.:thmbsup:

Brian M
11th July 2008, 09:35 PM
Hi
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A few recent pics and am glad all is fine with Lady and Dottie,Rosie curled up in her fabric crate by my bed


on hols in nothumberland Our Rosie

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Poppy does she look overweight Rosie on Luke while Daisy
moochs


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nicola
12th July 2008, 12:18 PM
Hi just wondering how Dottie and Rosie are today? Lady is much better (thank goodness). I think she's a bit constipated so am keeping an eye on that. Have reunited her with Charlie and she is much happier. They are asleep together in the cage at the moment. Brian how old is Rosie? She is much bigger than Lady who is just turned 6 months. Hope they're both doing well!

Brian M
12th July 2008, 03:57 PM
Hi Nicola
Rosie slept alongside me in her fabric crate so each time i heard movement i dangled my hand in and calmed her down, we were all up at 4.20 pm i carried Rosie out to the grden for a wee then let the other two out then we all went back to bed ,not that we then slept and unfortunately Dawn decided she may as well get up so it was a long night but thankfully Rosie is a lot perkier today but she is still sleeping a lot wont do any harm though .Rosie came to us from a lady breeder in Doncaster who is also a Cavalier show judge and breeder as well of Charlies we got her end Sept last year and she is One on the 19 th of this month ,she weighs 6.8 kilo and from the nape of her neck along her back to her tail she is 18" long and on top of her head she has a few tufts of hair that make her look as though shes had a blond tint.



Rosie in the local park then terrible Daisy and Pops on her back and Rosie

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My two rescue pussycats Tammi aged about 10 we have had for 9 yrs and the grand old lady Ami aged about 15 yrs and been with us longer than our Luke approx 14 yrs.

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nicola
12th July 2008, 04:40 PM
ah well that explains it. She certainly is beautiful as are daisy and pops!!! I have plans once Lady and Charlie are older to hopefully add a tricolour and a ruby to our family....my hubbie doesn't know of these plans yet though :D Glad to hear Rosie is doing well.

Brian M
14th July 2008, 10:18 PM
Hi

Poor Rosies still not a happy little girl hows dottie and lady , i cant unfortunately see her having her stitches out Friday but as Pops is going anyway i will take Rosie for a check over. :(

Thanks

Brian

nicola
14th July 2008, 11:41 PM
Aw Brian I am sorry to hear that little Rosie is still not back to normal but I am sure she will be soon....it is MAJOR surgery after all. Lady had a really bad first night to the point where I was concerned but now she's back to normal racing around the yard after Charlie. Her stitches and scar look like they are healing wonderfully. Have you checked her stitches and scar? If so what do they look like? I think all dogs are different when it comes to surgery. We had an absolutely horrendous time with our Old English Sheepdog. His scar got infected and he had to take THREE courses of antibiotics before it healed. My hubbie and I actually had to take time off work to be with him. He is good as new now though. I think, similarly with people, each dog is unique and recovery times will vary from dog to dog. Our vet wants us to wait until the Monday to get her stitches out which will be 10 days. I am happy about that as after one of my C-sections I got my stitches out and the whole wound burst open and I had to be put under AGAIN to have wound repaired and layers of stitches in the muscles underneath which are now there permanently. I was therfore very pleased that Lady's stitches will stay in for the 10 days. (sorry probably a case of too much information there lol)! I do hope gorgeous Rosie is back to normal soon! :flwr:

Brian M
16th July 2008, 09:26 PM
Hi
Due to the UK public employees strike today Luke had no training so we took all three on their favorite walk on the Wirral Way along the beach then up and back through the sandhills ,the intention was to have Poppy and Daisy free and Rosie on a long lead but once there the imploring set me free looks from Rosie and she was soon off chasing Poppy and hanging off her ear when caught ,so at long last my worries are fading slightly.Her appetite is perfect again though i might have trouble weaning her off her fresh chicken breast and tuna back to dry food ,veg and a spoonful of wet food ,but i shall still keep her by me in the bedroom till she has her stitches out ,which she was just washing then yelped jumped up and turned full circle , maybe she just pulled one. Before she rolled on her back for her tum to be tickled so i had a good look ,there are twelve stitches in all they seem clean and the surrounding skin is pink so all seems Ok but i ll be more than glad when they are all gone .Pops has just discovered that in the lounge we have a CO2 detector that blinks a green light once a minute so now she will just sit down stare at then when it blinks green barks like mad ,don't our cavaliers bark at strange things.

hbmama
16th July 2008, 10:58 PM
Sounds like Lady and Rosie are getting along okay now. Glad to hear that! We have been fortunate that Dottie is doing well and doesn't mind wearing her onesies at all. It is a bit of a pain for me though, as I have to unsnap her and take her into the yard on a lead to do her potty business.

She is doggie door trained and loves to run in an out into our back yard, chase butterflies, annoy the neighbors cat sitting on the wall and hide in the bushes along the fence line. All of that has been put on hold for the past week, much to her dismay.

Our vet said to bring her back in for a check of her stitches 7 days from the operation, and the scar looks to be healing fine. I just think the stitches need to stay in a few more days but we will see what he says when he sees her.

Glad it is over with!! Brian, Dottie was born on the 17th of July and will be one so Rosie is almost the same age! Her breeder wanted us to have her go through one season before spaying and so that is why we waited this long.

Things will hopefully be back to normal in a few days, onesies off, stitches out and free again to run and play in the garden!! :-p