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butchysmom
4th November 2008, 06:27 PM
My 2 Cavaliers were on EaglePack Holistic but last night I went to the Petstore and saw a new food they carry Orijen. Does anybody feed Orijen? I am interested to hear what you say about this food. I might be switching...

heather r
4th November 2008, 09:06 PM
Our not quite 4 month old is on a diet of 1/2 orijen and 1/2 innova. Her breeder had her on this and she seems to thrive on it. In AM I give her a little cooked yam mixed in.

Heather R

cy1266
5th November 2008, 06:13 PM
I'm sure this doesn't really help, but I just switched my 2 cats to Orijen. I bought a sample pack for $2.50 to make sure they liked it before I bought a big bag because geez, it is expensive! I paid $45 for a 15 lb bag. I think that Orijen is a very high quality food, and if my dogs ate kibble I would probably have them on Orijen.

Karlin
5th November 2008, 07:13 PM
I've used it. It's a good quality food but pricy -- I prefer to stick with James Wellbeloved or Royal Canin and homecooked food here. :)

$45 for 15kg is chap compared to what it costs in Europe -- we have to pay for the shipping I suppose. If anyone over here is interested in it, it is available through www.zooplus.ie (or add your country's domain)

cy1266
5th November 2008, 07:29 PM
$45 for 15kg is chap compared to what it costs in Europe

Actually it was $45.00 for 15 pounds, not kilograms...I think 15 pounds is equivalent to about 6.8kg, right? I wish it was $45.00 for 15 kg because I think that would be 33 pounds! :)

arasara
6th November 2008, 01:47 AM
I currently feed Orijen. Faith is on the regular and Kosmo is on the 6 fish (at vet's reccomendation) due to allergies.

I cannot say enough about Orijen. I absolutely LOVE the food and am totally happy with everything. I don't plan on switching - Faith was on recalled food before it was recalled so I am VERY fussy about the food I will feed. I like that Orijen is manufactured at its own facility, it's ethoxyquin free, all ingredients are Canadian, etc. :)

One thing I would caution though is to be careful if you switch to it - it is very calorically dense and if not watched carefully, some dogs can get fat! :eek: It happened to me, but I was able to reduce the amount I feed by a bit and maintain :)

Karlin
6th November 2008, 01:55 AM
I wish it was $45.00 for 15 kg because I think that would be 33 pounds!

Ooops you are right! That would be an extra special bargain! But we still pay quite a bit more than that at 15lbs... still a good deal in my book!

Orijen is also very high in protein -- something to consider for those who follow the school of thought that high protein levels add to hyperactivity and sometimes training and behaviour issues. I don't know if there's any truth to that -- never seen it myself -- but some feel strongly about it.

butchysmom
6th November 2008, 05:11 AM
OK, I switched from EaglePack to Orijen little by little. Last night was the first night I mixed the food with a little Orijen. My maltese eats the same food as my 2 Cavaliers. He is potty pad trained. When I woke up this morning I noticed, there was a little bloody/pink thing in his Poop. I then checked my Cavaliers Poop and it is the same. They all have booldy/pink watery stuff in their poop. Their poop is hard but I am a little concerned.

amanda3137
10th November 2008, 09:46 PM
My boys love it! Knock on wood...gorgeous coats and poos without any gas!;)

chloe92us
11th November 2008, 01:52 AM
I've been feeding mine Orijen adult for about 7 months now and I love it. It seems like when I originally switched them, there were a few days of runny poops...but never again. Now their poops are perfectly formed, regular, and really easy to pick up! I love the food. Because it is so high in protein, however, I would not feed it to an an oldie again.

petcrazyme
13th November 2008, 03:39 AM
I love the food. Because it is so high in protein, however, I would not feed it to an an oldie again.

Why not?

chloe92us
14th November 2008, 01:32 AM
My old girl, Precious, passed a few months ago, and toward the end she went through kidney failure. I'm not sure if it had anything to do with the high protein, but I think as they get older it's too difficult to process. I switched her back to a regular food too late I think. But, then again, I don't know if that would have helped her live any longer or not.

petcrazyme
14th November 2008, 02:21 PM
My old girl, Precious, passed a few months ago, and toward the end she went through kidney failure. I'm not sure if it had anything to do with the high protein, but I think as they get older it's too difficult to process.

I'm sorry about your loss!

This is taken from the Orijen website:

Q: DOES HIGHER PROTEIN STRESS THE KIDNEYS? A: NO. There is no study in science to show a higher protein diet has any negative effect on the kidneys of dogs or cats. In fact, scientific studies show quite the opposite; dogs with poor kidney functions or dogs that had only one kidney showed improved health on higher protein diets.

petcrazyme
14th November 2008, 03:12 PM
When I first got Maisy, she had been weaned onto Orijen adult. I couldn't immediately find a supplier in my area so I weaned her onto Fromm Adult.

I was really confused about whether or not she should be on an adult food (as my vet said she should be on a puppy food) and I was also very confused about whether or not the high protein content of Orijen was a concern. The Orijen website has a good Q&A section and I decided that I would put her on Orijen puppy and Fromm adult until 6 months. Now I have her on Orijen adult and Fromm adult for variety.

She is doing well on it after a long bought of loose poop. A few members here said that loose poop with pups is common. Sure enough she grew out of it.

I don't have any plans to switch from our Orijen and Fromm feeding plan unless Maisy runs into some sort of issue (ie allergies).

petcrazyme
14th November 2008, 03:32 PM
Dudley, the Cav we lost in May, developed kidney disease in the last couple of months of his life, and the vet told us to take him off the high-protein food we'd been feeding him. He put Dudley on Science Diet KD and told me it was low in protein.

Very confusing isn't it?!! I had a cat with kidney disease and was also told by our vet to put her on a low protein diet.


I wonder what the true deal is between high protein and kidney problems. Does anyone know? I'm just curious.

Yes ..how could vets say one thing and Orijen say another (of course, they are trying to sell their food)?

Come to think of it, months ago I contacted someone at Orijen with my concern about the high protein and they sent me back a detailed email with attached supporting documentation that high protein is not a concern. I took their word for it ...I'm no nutritionist ...what's a consumer to do?

Anyway, if anyone would like me to forward them the email I got from Orijen I'd be more than happy to do so. Just PM me.

nursejess80
14th November 2008, 04:18 PM
We switched Ruby to Orijen a few weeks ago, and she LOVES it. She's a very picky eater, so I bought the little trial bag for $1.99, and it lasted almost through her entire transition phase from her old food. Actually, she transitioned herself because she would literally pick out the Orijen from her old food and eat it and leave the rest. I found little pieces of Wellness on the floor beside her bowl because she had spit it out! Her poop was only a tiny bit runny, but that's actually kind of normal for her. She is almost always kind of runny at the end of a BM. The ONLY complaint I have so far is that it gives her nasty gas. We noticed it last night when we were on the couch. I think Ruby even noticed it because she had this weird look on her face! I bought the 5 lb. bag because it takes a while for her to go through it, and it cost about $14 with tax. If it's something that she'll actually eat, it's well worth the price!

Mindysmom
14th November 2008, 06:40 PM
Our Golden developed kidney disease that was diagnosed about six months before he died (he died of a tumour). I'm fairly certain the kidney problem was age related and not food related. He was on a more moderate protein diet. The vet prescribed a low protein diet for him and it was the difference between night and day. We thought he had arthritis (he was 11) but it seems his kidneys were hurting - suddenly after a couple of weeks he no longer whined when he had to go up the stairs and he was far perkier. His BUN and creatinine levels fell to just above the normal range. I am leery about taking nutrition advice from a vet for healthy dogs (but I have an animal nutritionist friend that I pass stuff by). My co-worker also had an elderly Golden who needed a high protein food in her last months because her body wasn't processing protein well. I think each case is individual and when a dog becomes ill the vet is a resource who should know what is best.

As a consumer I try to find different sources for information. I haven't been able to find enough information either for or against a high protein diet to feel comfortable switching Mindy or the new pup (who will be on Orijen when we get him).

butchysmom
15th November 2008, 07:22 AM
well, I have been feeding mine Orijen for one week and they had bloody stools. Took them to the vet and vet suspects it is from the food so he suggested to go back to Eagle pack or to a lower protein diet. I sure did and bought B.G before grain by Merrick and after just feeding it to them once, they're poop went from diarrhea to firm and hard easy to pick up poop. It was the food that made them sick! I am never as in never going to try Orijen ever again! I have learned my lesson with that food.

chloe92us
15th November 2008, 05:48 PM
Wow, I'm really surprised to hear BOTH dogs has bloody poop...I have never had a problem with my dogs on Orijen and SWEAR by that food.

It is confusing with the high vs low protein thing. My vet also suggested I take "P" off the high protein food. I did, and a month later had her pts. :( I really don't think it was the food, it was just her time to go...she was 14 YO.

I was one of those people who loved to try new foods for the dogs and was always feeding them something different everytime my bag ran out (I always buy the big bag, so it was every few months or so). Since I started feeding Orijen, I haven't switched. I did feed Fromm 4 star line for a while and everyone liked it, but there was something in it that created an allergy for Precious, so I had to feed her a different food.

There have been a handful of foods they just did NOT like; the major one was Innova EVO. They all hated it. And of course I bought a big bag and threw it all away after two weeks of everyone balking at it.

StellaLucyDesi
23rd November 2008, 02:12 AM
Hi, I'm new here. I have just started using Orijen Senior for my 3 dogs (Stella Anges - blenheim cav, Lucy Mae - poodle/brittany/chihuahua mix, and Desi Ray - shih-poo). Right now, we are finishing our Eagle Pack Holistic Select (which we love btw) and going over to the Orijen. We have been eating it for about 3 days. Not long I know, but the 3 dogs will eat it like it's treats! So far, their stools are good and nobody is vomiting or doing anything "weird". Yeah! Stella will be 8 years in Feb., Lucy will be 8 years in July and Desi will be 6 years in May. So, I like the senior formula for them because it has less fat. If they continue to do well on it, I may try the fish formula.:razz:

Charleen
23rd November 2008, 04:56 AM
My 4 started Orijen last week Saturday. So far, so good.

AsOctoberFalls
23rd November 2008, 07:21 AM
well, I have been feeding mine Orijen for one week and they had bloody stools. Took them to the vet and vet suspects it is from the food so he suggested to go back to Eagle pack or to a lower protein diet. I sure did and bought B.G before grain by Merrick and after just feeding it to them once, they're poop went from diarrhea to firm and hard easy to pick up poop. It was the food that made them sick! I am never as in never going to try Orijen ever again! I have learned my lesson with that food.

I don't think there's anything wrong with Orijen; it just didn't work for your pups. We fed Burgess (our Newfoundland) several different types of good foods (Canidae, California Natural) and they all gave him diarrhea. We switched him to Orijen 6 Fresh Fish and the diarrhea instantly stopped.

I'm glad you found a food that works for your pups - I had no idea how difficult it could be!

Kristy

Ansley
26th November 2008, 01:52 AM
I have gordo and bosley on orijen and they love it.
Gordo (the chi) was on a special food when i got him as his breeder fed it to her dogs. I tried many foods and he got sick with most of them

I tried orijen, and within a week i noticed a difference in his coat and his poop.
When i got bosley i slowly put him on orijen and he loves it. Ive also noticed a change in his coat. They both have softer and shinier coats now.
I mix the chicken and the fish types together.

Indy
1st December 2008, 01:22 PM
Glad to find this topic.I'm considering to switch on this food from Genesis but have to wait for a month or so,because it isn't available in my country till then.It seems to be top quality dry food.I've been feeding combination G.+ BARF for a year now,but lately coat is little bit dry.Maybe due to regular swim,but that didn't change, so I deeply believe it's the food, that changed.His stool used to be soft after G.but lately they announced some changes in ingredients.Well, the stool is nice after, but coat needs more oil.BARF is the best for hard stool,but my prince won't eat it twice a day.....
I hope Orien will be good.I've heard only good about it,from people feeding with it.As for all the new foods, it is strongly advised to make a slow transition from one food to another one.