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Ciren
9th March 2009, 10:17 PM
come back from puppy class and yet again my baby did me proud.

the trainer mentioned puppy certificates that she had received. i am presuming she means KC one's.

now between you and me the KC in my eyes are pointless and any opinion of theirs mean nothing to me. however, when she mentioned that Peaches couldnt have one i got annoyed. ok she is older than all the others but its because she was in a puppy farm being abused and used by mindless idiots.

hubby thinks i am being over sensitive, but i think its sucks. she has completed the course and to be honest is better behaved than any of the others and frankly most of them wouldnt know how to look after dogs if it bit them on the behind.(i meant the humans) 2 of the owners is blatantly christmass pressies for the kids and examples of how puppies are for life not just xmas.

i am tempted to say something next time but i have a feeling it wouldnt do any good.

*Pauline*
9th March 2009, 10:46 PM
I'd like to think her criticism is directed at the puppy farm and not you or Peaches. I can't imagine her not liking you or Peaches, she must get pleasure out of seeing how much you enjoy her class. My trainer held anyone who rescued a dog in the highest esteem. Don't worry :hug:

Ciren
9th March 2009, 10:49 PM
oh its not where she came from its because she isnt a puppy she won't get a certificate

*Pauline*
9th March 2009, 11:29 PM
Do you mean the trainer was saying she is too old to go for puppy training certificates?

Ciren
9th March 2009, 11:31 PM
yeah, she said that next week Peaches won't be able to have one. hey Peaches doesnt care but it got to me.

MishathePooh
9th March 2009, 11:40 PM
Peaches should get a special certificate for overcoming all those obstacles! I think it is just plain silly that the instructor won't give her one.

*Pauline*
9th March 2009, 11:45 PM
Yeah, I would say something, you worked hard for that.

diddy
10th March 2009, 12:01 AM
Hmm that does seem a bit harsh, but I suppose the trainer has to 'follow the rules'. The important thing is that Peaches sucessfully completed the course. She did it because she's happy, loved and trusts you.

Well done Peaches :rah::rah::rah:

Ciren
10th March 2009, 12:02 AM
Peaches should get a special certificate for overcoming all those obstacles! I think it is just plain silly that the instructor won't give her one.

i agree but i wonder if it's because of KC rules?

lorebringer
10th March 2009, 12:28 AM
This sounds petty and unprofessional on the part of the trainer. Credit should be given where credit is due and if you put in the work you should get the cert.

Devilica
10th March 2009, 08:46 AM
I am fairly sure the KC puppy certificates are only for puppies up to 6 months. It isn't up to the instructor.. just a fact... :(

Kate H
10th March 2009, 09:03 PM
If Peaches has done so well on the Puppy Foundation course (which is what I presume you have been doing), it should be pretty easy for you to go on to the Bronze Good Citizen, which is open to dogs of any age. I can appreciate how you feel - puppy farm dogs (I have one too) have to catch up with their missed out puppyhood and need to be treated as such, but Puppy Foundation is age-limited to real puppies, not those who are catching up! My Aled (21 months) is beginning to be naughty - hooray!!

You know Peaches is doing fine, so why worry about a piece of paper? Your trainer has shown her concern and understanding by letting Peaches go in with the puppies in the first place - some classes wouldn't have allowed it. My trainer is the same - Aled trains with the puppies.

Kate, Oliver and Aled

Kizzys Mum
10th March 2009, 09:36 PM
Aw, that's not very fair. But as others have said; you still know she's brilliant!
We had a similar thing when we did Bronze Good Citizen with Ozzy and Zara; Zara had kennel cough the week of the test, so didn't get her certificate, even though she was better behaved than the other dogs in the class!

misty
10th March 2009, 09:53 PM
Don't be upset - it's just the KC rules for the Puppy Certificates. The dogs need to be under one to get the actual certificate.

It's no reflection on her and it sounds like she's doing fab, particularly with her background as a puppy farm girl :):). Well done for all the hard work you've done with her to date - that's worth more than ANY certificate :).

*Pauline*
10th March 2009, 10:33 PM
You know Peaches is doing fine, so why worry about a piece of paper? Your trainer has shown her concern and understanding by letting Peaches go in with the puppies in the first place - some classes wouldn't have allowed it. My trainer is the same - Aled trains with the puppies.

Good point. I do think Peaches sounds ready for the Bronze Good Citizen classes. I did these and really enjoyed them.

SamT
11th March 2009, 05:37 PM
Thats a joke. The trainer should so up a special dog cert for peaches. If she passed the course she passed the course, would be harder for an older dog to pick up things sometimes, loose bad habits.

I would be annoyed with this. If you have paid for the course I would seriously complain. It would be nice to have the cert, frame it for the house. The trainer to me is being difficult. If she trains dogs she should know how much we alll love our dogs so she should organise something to show how well Peaches has done.

Ciren
11th March 2009, 05:43 PM
well if she does we will definately go for another course, :D

misty
11th March 2009, 07:01 PM
It's so lovely for a puppy farm girl to be doing so well :).

Buttons is a Many Tears puppy farm pup, and he's on week 4 of his Puppy Foundation course. We're going on to Bronze afterwards :)

Karlin
11th March 2009, 07:31 PM
You know Peaches is doing fine, so why worry about a piece of paper? Your trainer has shown her concern and understanding by letting Peaches go in with the puppies in the first place - some classes wouldn't have allowed it. My trainer is the same - Aled trains with the puppies.


Agree -- and it doesn't really have anything to do with the trainer anyway; these are how these certs are awarded and for an offical KC approved course there are strict guidelines -- otherwise the certs are meaningless if the guidelines don't matter. Many general training classes do not give out certificates -- but in this case, the cert is only for a defined group -- puppies -- and there's no ability to change that.

You could probably also easily have gone into a basic obedience class if a cert and qualification was important -- it didn't need to be puppy class; I wouldn't think it would have mattered at all. :thmbsup: I'd just view this as a gentle intro to training and rewarding time you were able to put into working with Peaches :rah:. Most trainers I know would probably have suggested going to the adult classes simply because the puppy classes are targeted at puppies and generally they'll want to keep the groups separate. The instructor was nice to be accommodating to allow Peaches into a puppy group. :)

Ciren
12th March 2009, 09:58 PM
i know your all being reasonable, hence the name of the thread. i just wanted my baby acknowledged.

misty
13th March 2009, 09:14 AM
i know your all being reasonable, hence the name of the thread. i just wanted my baby acknowledged.

I'll acknowledge your baby girl :).

I remember when you first started looking for a Cavalier and I'm really impressed at how far you've got with Peaches - it's amazing and she is a credit to you.

Take her onto Bronze, then she'll get her certificate. :)

*Pauline*
13th March 2009, 09:58 AM
I don't usually follow the training threads but I read all of your threads as it's lovely to see you both progressing so well. :thmbsup::flwr:

Jan Bell
13th March 2009, 10:47 AM
Amy,

Are you being over sensitive? Probably. But so what, you just want you efforts to be acknowledged, which is very human and understandable.

Just focus on how well Peaches has done, and enjoy her achievements. You've done so well with her, so don't let this upset you.

Best wishes,

Ciren
13th March 2009, 12:28 PM
:o thanks guys, I am sure Peaches would appreciate the thoughts as well... that is, if she wasnt led next to me snoring atm :jump: