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Rosie-Not Good News Its Patella A Problem
- Thread starter Brian M
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This is a luxating patella -- do a search as there are lots of threads on this as well as a thread in the Library heath section including some previous threads about people's experience with the surgery -- she will need lots of crate rest in the weeks following but hopefully then all will be sorted. Did your vet tell you the grade?
Brian M
Well-known member
Hi
No the vet did not mention the grade ,and not knowing anything only having vaguely heard the phrase I had no knowledge to ask ,poor Rosie was trembling so I was hardly listening just thinking about her.
Thank You.I will have a good search and read but its seems better hearing from people whose dogs may have unfortunately have been through this ,but Archie did say the operation will progress in severity depending on what they find ,they may try stitches or have to put a groove in the bone
I think but not sure.
No the vet did not mention the grade ,and not knowing anything only having vaguely heard the phrase I had no knowledge to ask ,poor Rosie was trembling so I was hardly listening just thinking about her.
Thank You.I will have a good search and read but its seems better hearing from people whose dogs may have unfortunately have been through this ,but Archie did say the operation will progress in severity depending on what they find ,they may try stitches or have to put a groove in the bone
I think but not sure.
Louise1823
Well-known member
Poor little Roise - Ive read up lots about it on this site between the library and the general search function.
Do you know when she will have the surgery?
- Ive read up lots about it on this site between the library and the general search function.Do you know when she will have the surgery?
Sandrac
Well-known member
Poor Rosie, but I'm sure she will feel much better once she's had surgery. :flwr:
My first Cav - Lady - had to have both her back patellas done when she was just over a year old (which was just over 18 years ago). She would be running along and then they would both slip out and she just collapsed. After surgery she did really well and was able to run about with no problems.
My first Cav - Lady - had to have both her back patellas done when she was just over a year old (which was just over 18 years ago
). She would be running along and then they would both slip out and she just collapsed. After surgery she did really well and was able to run about with no problems.
Louise1823
Well-known member
your right, Id try to limit her activity as much as possible until she's done. The poor little pet - give her a big kiss from me :lotsaluv:
MadPip
Well-known member
Poor Rosie. At least you know what the problem is, and it is something that can be dealt with surgically. Scary I know, but I'm sure she'll make a good recovery. I'll be sending all my positive thoughts your way for Wednesday.
Take care of yourself and little Rosie.:hug::hug:
Take care of yourself and little Rosie.:hug::hug:
Brian M
Well-known member
Hi
Questions and answers again pls ,only just got in from L/pool and Lukes Shotokan and the girls always come with me so far have had no time to read anything but Poppy has had a couple of biscuits and a few treats so I think shes on the mend though we do have another vets appointment at 5.50.PM as a back stop so will see what develops over the next 20 hours.
Now advice on this pls while I was sitting in my car waiting for Luke for the last 2 1/2 hours I phoned Rosies breeder a nice lady from Barnsley she is also a Cav and a Charlie judge she performed three weeks ago in Reading and her comments were .If an L P happens which none of her Cavs has though she says its more common in Charlie's which she also breeds ,shows and judges she would have thought Rosie would have developed her problem generally between 9-12 months so she is late it occurring now with Rosie being 1 1/2 yrs and she also thinks that as there was no sign before and some vets are quick to refer to the knife in her opinion too quick she suggested I observe Rosie over the week - end and if shes fine to cancel the op .
I am now totally confused money is not a problem Rosie is all I want is the best for her and to not suffer what may be an unnecessary op .
What shall I do big help pls.
Thanks
Brian
ps she does lick and chew her back feet a lot
Questions and answers again pls ,only just got in from L/pool and Lukes Shotokan and the girls always come with me so far have had no time to read anything but Poppy has had a couple of biscuits and a few treats so I think shes on the mend though we do have another vets appointment at 5.50.PM as a back stop so will see what develops over the next 20 hours.
Now advice on this pls while I was sitting in my car waiting for Luke for the last 2 1/2 hours I phoned Rosies breeder a nice lady from Barnsley she is also a Cav and a Charlie judge she performed three weeks ago in Reading and her comments were .If an L P happens which none of her Cavs has though she says its more common in Charlie's which she also breeds ,shows and judges she would have thought Rosie would have developed her problem generally between 9-12 months so she is late it occurring now with Rosie being 1 1/2 yrs and she also thinks that as there was no sign before and some vets are quick to refer to the knife in her opinion too quick she suggested I observe Rosie over the week - end and if shes fine to cancel the op .
I am now totally confused money is not a problem Rosie is all I want is the best for her and to not suffer what may be an unnecessary op .
What shall I do big help pls.
Thanks
Brian
ps she does lick and chew her back feet a lot
drphilzeltzman
Well-known member
Brian,
I am a surgeon in the US, so here are my thoughts:
. A medial patellar luxation is a very common problem. There is not really a specific age to diagnose it. This whole business about "being late" is just not accurate (with all due respect).
. You can read about it on my web site, so you can educate yourself (for free).
. The success rate with surgery is EXTREMELY HIGH.... in the right hands.
. It scares me that they're "gonna try sutures first." Again, with all due respect. I don't think that's appropriate. I would say that most patellar luxations would benefit from a tibial crest transposition. If they don't do that, you shouldn't go there. Deepening the groove and adding sutures if typically not enough.
. You seemed scared and confused because you're getting 50 different opinions. That's OK, there is no emergency situation here.
. So what would I suggest? That you seek a referral to a board-certified surgeon, and trust them.
. This is where it gets very confusing for our friends in the UK and Ireland. There, a "veterinary surgeon" is a vet.
. What I mean is, you should get a 2nd opinion from a SURGEON, ie someone who does surgery ONLY (for example, I fixed 4 patellas just in the past 2 weeks!). So, ideally, a board-certified surgeon, either ECVS or ACVS certified.
. There is no way to be confused, these are the only letters you should be looking for. There are plenty of board-certified surgeons around.
. ECVS = European College of Veterinary Surgeons
. ACVS = American College of Veterinary Surgeons
. As a conclusion, patella surgery is not hard to do. It's hard to do well.
And should you be remotely happy with my answer, then please "pay forward" by subscribing to my free newsletter :- )
Good luck and keep us posted.
drphilzeltzman (doggie surgeon in the US)
www.drphilzeltzman.com
I am a surgeon in the US, so here are my thoughts:
. A medial patellar luxation is a very common problem. There is not really a specific age to diagnose it. This whole business about "being late" is just not accurate (with all due respect).
. You can read about it on my web site, so you can educate yourself (for free).
. The success rate with surgery is EXTREMELY HIGH.... in the right hands.
. It scares me that they're "gonna try sutures first." Again, with all due respect. I don't think that's appropriate. I would say that most patellar luxations would benefit from a tibial crest transposition. If they don't do that, you shouldn't go there. Deepening the groove and adding sutures if typically not enough.
. You seemed scared and confused because you're getting 50 different opinions. That's OK, there is no emergency situation here.
. So what would I suggest? That you seek a referral to a board-certified surgeon, and trust them.
. This is where it gets very confusing for our friends in the UK and Ireland. There, a "veterinary surgeon" is a vet.
. What I mean is, you should get a 2nd opinion from a SURGEON, ie someone who does surgery ONLY (for example, I fixed 4 patellas just in the past 2 weeks!). So, ideally, a board-certified surgeon, either ECVS or ACVS certified.
. There is no way to be confused, these are the only letters you should be looking for. There are plenty of board-certified surgeons around.
. ECVS = European College of Veterinary Surgeons
. ACVS = American College of Veterinary Surgeons
. As a conclusion, patella surgery is not hard to do. It's hard to do well.
And should you be remotely happy with my answer, then please "pay forward" by subscribing to my free newsletter :- )
Good luck and keep us posted.
drphilzeltzman (doggie surgeon in the US)
www.drphilzeltzman.com
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mellie
Well-known member
Brian,
Please keep us posted on poor Rosie. My Bella also has Luxating Patellas on her hind legs. One is a grade 3, I think, which is where it pops out with just walking, and other activities, but its not slowing her down yet! The other is only a grade 1-2, it will pop out if she jumps off the couch or leaps for something, and can be manipulated by her vet. We have an orthopaedic surgeon that will be doing her surgery. We have to wait until I can get a full week off work to be able to keep her crated and short leash walks to potty. I am planning it in the next 2 months. She is very active and doesn't see to be in pain, so the vet said it was ok to wait for a bit. But not long enough for it to do further damage. I have been reading lots of info as well, but I hearing first hand, from members! Its very helpful!
Good luck! I do agree with the Dr. about finding a board certified surgeon to do it. If your going to pay that much for surgery, it needs to be done right the first time. My vet told me they do a few LP repairs a year, but that she would take her own dog to a surgeon! That was all I needed to hear! GIve hugs to Rosie from Bella and I !!! :flwr:
Please keep us posted on poor Rosie. My Bella also has Luxating Patellas on her hind legs. One is a grade 3, I think, which is where it pops out with just walking, and other activities, but its not slowing her down yet! The other is only a grade 1-2, it will pop out if she jumps off the couch or leaps for something, and can be manipulated by her vet. We have an orthopaedic surgeon that will be doing her surgery. We have to wait until I can get a full week off work to be able to keep her crated and short leash walks to potty. I am planning it in the next 2 months. She is very active and doesn't see to be in pain, so the vet said it was ok to wait for a bit. But not long enough for it to do further damage. I have been reading lots of info as well, but I hearing first hand, from members! Its very helpful!
Good luck! I do agree with the Dr. about finding a board certified surgeon to do it. If your going to pay that much for surgery, it needs to be done right the first time. My vet told me they do a few LP repairs a year, but that she would take her own dog to a surgeon! That was all I needed to hear! GIve hugs to Rosie from Bella and I !!! :flwr:
Jan Bell
Well-known member
Hi Brian,
Sorry to hear about Rosie. Can't say I know much about LP but I did think that they were quite common in Cavaliers.
Seems that you have had some good advice above, so perhaps you could get a second opinion before proceeding with anything. On the bright side, it sounds like it is a solvable problem if you can get the right surgeon to operate, and no drastic hurry (although of course, none of us like to see our dogs in any discomfort).
Keep us posted, and will catch up with you later.
Best wishes,
Sorry to hear about Rosie. Can't say I know much about LP but I did think that they were quite common in Cavaliers.
Seems that you have had some good advice above, so perhaps you could get a second opinion before proceeding with anything. On the bright side, it sounds like it is a solvable problem if you can get the right surgeon to operate, and no drastic hurry (although of course, none of us like to see our dogs in any discomfort).
Keep us posted, and will catch up with you later.
Best wishes,
Margaret C
Well-known member
Brian,
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Margaret C
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