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luvhavinbgtwins
29th April 2009, 02:34 AM
If so how and do you have pics....

My friend has one and cuts them short.....I do see I need to trim his paws the underneath is getting long..I have never seen a puppy/dog have hair under there paws like this....

If you do have them cut how often and when/what age did you start...I have a coupon for his 1st visit free bath and brush and 5o% haircut so I was waiting to do the bath now that he has all his shots etc and before it expires...but I am not sure on the cut.....if he did it would only be at this moment the paws and the butt LOL!

brotymo
29th April 2009, 03:46 AM
I think their coats are so lovely, I wouldn't touch mine with scissors. There would have to be a health reason for me to do it.
Additionally, since I am showing Bandit and Lizzie, it is a serious fault if their coats are trimmed in any way. They are supposed to be natural.
I understand this probably isn't practical for everyone, but I have found that just a couple minutes a day to brush the areas that tend to mat is all they need between baths. It can be done in the length of time it takes you to brush your teeth.

kmatt
29th April 2009, 06:15 AM
I think their coats are so lovely, I wouldn't touch mine with scissors. There would have to be a health reason for me to do it.
Additionally, since I am showing Bandit and Lizzie, it is a serious fault if their coats are trimmed in any way. They are supposed to be natural.
I understand this probably isn't practical for everyone, but I have found that just a couple minutes a day to brush the areas that tend to mat is all they need between baths. It can be done in the length of time it takes you to brush your teeth.

I'm with brotymo, btw what does that mean, I use Isle of Dogs shampoo and conditioner. ITS AMAZING. They will smell so nice, its expensive but can be diluted. I go 5:1 vs the 10:1 it says on the bottle. Anna's coat is nice and shiney and smooth. I would only cut the paws if they tend to get things caught in them. Teddy, may he rest in peace, had to be given cuts because of his epilepsy. I'd typically do a puppy cut and he always looked good, the only thing is that any extra weight REALLY shows. I would only cut in the summer if you have to.

Plus a good deshedding comb does wonders to help keep the coat nice and clean plus there isn't nearly as much shedding going on. I wouldn't deshed if you don't know how because their coats can end up looking patchy. It might actually help with your son's allergys if you deshed say once a week. Cut down on vacuuming. Get a groomer to teach you how to use it though.

Leave the feathering though and the ears because they ALWAYS look amazing!

Justine
29th April 2009, 09:34 AM
I keep Archie trimmed,becos we have 2 acres here and he loves the back field,and rolling.

Karlin
29th April 2009, 09:53 AM
If you trim their coats you risk changing them forever. Most show breeders say shaving/trimming causes coats to become curly and cottony. If your reasons for trimming them outweigh appearance, then obviously it is the owner's choice. But this is not a great breed for people who need a short-coated dog of course.

MishathePooh
29th April 2009, 10:31 AM
People on these boards seem to hate the idea of a coat trim! Mine is a tricolor and his black fur makes him really hot in the summer so I shave him 5ish months of the year. He is neutered and his coat changed a bit after the neuter, but did not seem to change from shaving/trimming. If you don't have a show dog, whatever makes your dog most comfortable would be the best choice IMO. That being said I am still vain and leave the ears and feathers :) Sometimes people even mistake my 12yo for a puppy when he is short furred!

meljoy
29th April 2009, 11:24 AM
We have Leo trimmed every 6 weeks. Its not a radical cut but it suits us.

*Pauline*
29th April 2009, 12:09 PM
People on these boards seem to hate the idea of a coat trim!...
...If you don't have a show dog, whatever makes your dog most comfortable would be the best choice IMO.

I think you'll find that's because many of us are living in colder climes.

brotymo
29th April 2009, 01:52 PM
I'm with brotymo, btw what does that mean, I use Isle of Dogs shampoo and conditioner. ITS AMAZING. They will smell so nice, its expensive but can be diluted. I go 5:1 vs the 10:1 it says on the bottle. Anna's coat is nice and shiney and smooth.

Isle of Dogs IS fantastic! On the recommendations of some more experienced show people and the Isle of Dogs rep I spoke with at a show, I use the number 10 on their body, the number 20 on feathering (it has less conditioners and leaves the hair fuller) and the number 51 conditioner on the body to relax the wave and curl and belly (well conditioned fur as opposed to dry (which is absorbant) is supposed to reduce the amount of staining that the coat absorbs and Bandit pees on his belly all the time!)
I love the way it smells and it leaves them SOOO shiny and soft. They always get compliments on the texture of their coat and it's shine.

Sunflowerstar
29th April 2009, 02:11 PM
I take mine to the groomers but have never had them clip off all thier fur. I just have them tidied up a little, feet done and a tiny bit off the leg feathers chest ruffles thined out also under thier bottoms taken shorter too. I do this because of the walks they go on which are fields. If I didnt have them trimmed allsorts would get caught up in it. Which did happen to my Dotty when she first came to live with me aged almost two. She got a horsechestnut spiky shell stuck in her fur on a weekend walk. I had to carry her over a mile back to the car good job she was a feather weight.
I like my two too look like the breed they are and my groomer is excellent at grooming them the way I want them to look.

Karlin
29th April 2009, 02:17 PM
I just have them tidied up a little, feet done and a tiny bit off the leg feathers chest ruffles thined out also under thier bottoms taken shorter too

On the girls, I take some feathering off hindquarters as otherwise they drag their skirts in their urine and get smelly very quickly. I also take a small amount of length off the hair on Leo's chest where he can sometimes pee on it.

Jaspar of course is perfect and never ever pees on himself or steps in poop. ;)

Other than that I don't cut their coats.

Brian M
29th April 2009, 02:31 PM
Hi

Definately groomers for me approx 8-10 weeks ,I would be scared stiff going anywhere near them with scissors ,though I do thin their coats a bit in the summer.
I keep on reading aout Isle Of Dogs Shampoo and how good it is ,does anybody know if you can get it in th UK.

luvhavinbgtwins
29th April 2009, 02:48 PM
Thank you....I am not sure if I do want to get him cut...I just love the look they have..the only thing w/his paws he steps in his poo everytime and since his hair is getting long under them (between the toes) and I just wondered if you all did on the back end....I just want him to stay cool..it can get real hot or should I say humid here in Missouri but I really dont want it all cut...maybe trimmed...

jld
29th April 2009, 02:57 PM
I keep Dixie's underpaws trimmed. I trim all the fur between her pads and toes. She does agility, and the long hair would make it slippery for her. I also trim some of the long fun on her hindquarters. She doesn't mind me trimming her at all. I think she likes it......:grin: Judy and Dixie

Justine
29th April 2009, 03:30 PM
I do the same as Karlin,just the knickers and under belly,becos of where we are,thats all.

cy1266
29th April 2009, 03:32 PM
The only thing I trim on my 2 is the hair between the pads on the bottom of their feet. I trim this hair about every 2 months...Truman's under-foot hair grows soooo fast! I have to be careful not to cut off their slippers though! I never trim the rest of the with scissors, except to help get a mat out if I can't brush it out. I just try to keep up with their brushing.

I love the look of the Cavalier's coat and I feel like a big trim would change that so much, so for me, it's worth it to put the time in to groom them. I also wouldn't trust anyone else to groom them after the horror stories I've read on this board! I would freak out if I picked up my boys and they were shaved! I understand trimming them if they are running around outside and constantly getting stuff in their coat, or you just don't have the time to groom them, or just trimming certain areas (like areas they pee on), but I just like to leave mine as natural as possible, I think they're the prettiest that way :)

lisanne74
29th April 2009, 03:59 PM
I have been clipping Tyler for years in the summer ..since we spend most of the time out side and in the pool which he loves !! I just feel so bad for him ..I wouldnt want to wear a fur coat in summer .......Tyler is about 21 lbs and his MVD so i didnt want him to over heat....I must say though his coat is not as luxurious as most of your dogs ...I think its because of getting him clipped so short for so many years ....when he gets his fur back for the winter he is like a giant puff ball!!!!!

frecklesmom
29th April 2009, 04:23 PM
I just had Annie, black and tan, clipped short for summer. Hardly recognize her-the groomer couldn't believe what emerged when all the hair was off. Hated to do it, she was so beautiful with her coat-to me almost perfect. Did it because of age, she'll be 9 in Sept., the heat and humidity to come, the 1+MVD and because she is difficult to evaluate for heat stress. Older dogs don't do heat and humidity well around here, there have been some deaths.
The other 2 get paws,ears (around opening) and sanitary clips and they're good to go :).

Thelly
29th April 2009, 05:25 PM
[QUOTE=Karlin;318046]On the girls, I take some feathering off hindquarters as otherwise they drag their skirts in their urine and get smelly very quickly.

This is exactly what I do for Ginger for the same reason - although I did get her cut quite short in the last groom and she was a different dog after it...like a weight had been lifted! Very strange.

Thelly
29th April 2009, 05:27 PM
[QUOTE=Karlin;318046]

Jaspar of course is perfect and never ever pees on himself or steps in poop. ;)


Gosh, Jaspar and LouLou are so similar then!!! ;) (No favourites of course...:biggrin:)

Mindysmom
29th April 2009, 06:00 PM
Mindy has never been trimmed on purpose (a few times the groomer got scissor happy) other than her feet. I felt so sorry for her when I let the hair grow between her pads so I do get it trimmed. Sometimes I end up trimming her backside because it tends to collect burrs. I try to brush her out right away after walks but if I miss some and she gets matted it's easier to cut them out because she really doesn't like much grooming in that area. The heat and humidity has really bothered her in the summer the last couple of years (she's 11). but she doesn't have the heavy coat that many Cav's seem to have (probably why her breeder decided against showing her) so I don't think trimming would make much of a difference.

AliceAbbyBellaDaphne
29th April 2009, 06:06 PM
I have never cut Alice's hair yet, I didn't think you were really supposed to, except the hair that grows between their paw pads, I've heard that gets long. Alice's "paw hair" is getting long, but I haven't cut it yet, I was doing good to get her nails trimmed while she was sleepy the other night! After we got her I did do a ummmm "private area" trim with my clippers though... why oh why do dogs have to have so much hair there? It gets pee on it, or poo stuck... :eek: We already have a goldendoodle, schnoodle, and a westie who go to the groomers about every 10 to 12 weeks, and it had gotten sooo expensive. I actually just groomed my Westie myself, he doesn't look perfect, but looks OK. (We shave him down, except for his head, he stays much cleaner with out the westie "skirt".) Between their regular grooming we bathe all 5 dogs about every 3 weeks with a WONDERFUL shampoo from Nature's Specialties called Plum Silky. They smell yummy afterwards for many days! We also do the "privacy area" shaves on all 5 dogs whenever needed. If we wait too long to shave our Westie he will have massive poo stuck to him! :eek:
I heard a lady call it a "Brazilian" the other day...:D

Tawna

Daisy's Mom
29th April 2009, 06:50 PM
I always swore I wouldn't trim Daisy at all because she is so beautiful with her long, silky hair. However, I did trim a tiny bit off her tummy feathers which were dragging the ground (maybe an inch or even a little less), and I trimmed off some hair from the back of her slippers. You know, the part that sticks straight out from the back of their paws? It just gets soooo dirty when we go for walks that I thought I'd give it a try with taking some of that off. It's not noticeable at all and it does make some difference in the greyness of her feet after a walk on our neighborhood streets.

I will never have her over-all trimmed unless she has a health issue that demands it, as other have said above. I have 2 fosters right now who are trimmed and they just don't look right to me. And their hair sticks straight out all over, making them appear even pudgier than they actually are. And an all over shave? No way. I don't even think they look like Cavaliers at that point. I rescued a Cavalier from a shelter that literally looked like a miniature St. Bernard. She was shaved to about 1/2 inch long all over. Yikes.

Occasionally, if Daisy has a "cling-on" (you know what I mean), I will just trim off that hair with the offending cling-on, figuring that was obviously the hair in harm's way. She is so hairy all over that no one would ever notice a little bit missing back there. Honestly, I have never had a dog whose tummy is even covered thickly with hair like Daisy's! Her markings aren't perfect, and she's too big, but she definitely has the coat of a show dog!

BTW, I looked at the picture of the Crufts ( or Westminster, I can't remember) winning Cavalier and I was kind of appalled that it was so obvious that his ears had been blunt cut! If you are going to have a breed standard that says no trimming allowed, then that's the way it should be judged. If I were a judge, I would have eliminated him based on that! He looked weird, sort of like a poodle or bichon shape in terms of his ears, IMO. I do not like the poofy ear thing some showers are doing with Cavaliers. I think they look much prettier with long, silky ears, not teased poofs on both sides of their head.

(Just thought I'd throw that observation in since we are talking about trimming vs. nontrimming.)

luvhavinbgtwins
29th April 2009, 09:09 PM
Does anyone trim up the boys priv. part......I dont know if I am crazy but I have to wipe him everytime he comes inside cuz he is wet there...I would be scared to do it..but if he was sleeping...I cant wait for his ears to get longer hair...now it looks like he has to fluffy pony tails LOL!!

With all that has been said I think for sure I will NOT get his hair cut at all if I trim the butt and the paws I will do it myself..I would be afraid that they would take to much off...:thnx:

the doll
30th April 2009, 11:39 AM
I wouldn't cut Holly's hair apart from the paw pads for comfort and to keep the feathering neat. The cavalier coat is so beautiful I think its a real shame to touch unless the dog needs it done for medical reasons.
I saw a poor little cav puppy at the weekend with almost all of the hair cropped. The poor little fella looked so wrong and sad.:(

Lani
30th April 2009, 11:44 AM
Does anyone trim up the boys priv. part......I dont know if I am crazy but I have to wipe him everytime he comes inside cuz he is wet there...I would be scared to do it..but if he was sleeping...

Opinions will vary on this but I have this done every time I groom. It's called a sanitary trim. It's about the only thing I have done, but I find it essential.

harleyfarley
30th April 2009, 12:30 PM
Harley had terrible mats in his ears, they were so hot to, and when he scratched his claws got caught and i was so worried of him getting stuck like that while i was out, so heres one with his ears short, they are regrowing though and i love them more and more, i think i will have to cut them again at some point but for now there are about half grown and do look nicers. You can see him in my avatar pic. di

hwowen
30th April 2009, 12:53 PM
I now want to see what a totally shaved cav looks like ! - maybe like a puppy foxhound?? We're still growing our ears and chest back after the RSPCA barbers!

chloe92us
30th April 2009, 06:38 PM
All three of the recent fosters/ rescues I've had have been clipped and I must say it is sooo much easier! They brush right off when they go in the woods and shed less. But they don't look as good for sure!

I don't clip mine, and I'm desperate for Winn's hair to grow back. He has obviously been cut short his entire life and he has these very strange hard "whiskers" all over his body! Like the clipping changed the feel of some of his hairs.

cy1266
30th April 2009, 09:02 PM
Does anyone trim up the boys priv. part......I dont know if I am crazy but I have to wipe him everytime he comes inside cuz he is wet there...I would be scared to do it..but if he was sleeping...


Yes, I forgot to mention that, I have done that on both of mine. I think I've only trimmed it twice though, because their hair doesn't grow very fast in that area, and you're right, make sure they are sleeping or can stand very still while you're doing it! ;)

katc10
1st May 2009, 06:01 AM
We just started shaving our two for summer. Plus it is nice for our girl who has very fine, coarse hair that knots and mats easily, so this way she doesn't get any problems from it.

Before shaving:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3124/3135733887_c528245d7a.jpg

After shaving:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3550/3372046853_fdb3e33121.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3598/3372861156_3dbe4df4a3.jpg

I love how it brings out Charlie's freckles, and Indy seems to have more energy with less hair on her. I don't trim the ears much, so that they still have that Cavalier look to them, but I trim everything else as best I can.

lorebringer
1st May 2009, 10:54 AM
I shave my lady for the Summer, she just can't deal with the heat (not that Irelands gets very hot!) and collapsed from it before we shaved her. When she is all done she has a new lease of life! I also heard that shaving changes their coat texture, I haven't experienced this at all - she has quite a soft, thick coat and always has had. Once the colder months roll around her coat is back in and looking great! (we leave her ears, don't shave them at all, just a trim).

As far as manly bits go - I trim all my boys, and also around their belly just infront of their bits. I find it really helps with *ahem* aim (;)) and prevents them peeing on themselves.

katc10 - love the freckles :)

luvhavinbgtwins
1st May 2009, 02:08 PM
Actually that doesnt look bad at all...do you do it yourself...or do you have a grommer do it??? I might have to keep that pics LOL! so when he gets older I might have to....They still are the cutest little ones :)

Also I think they look younger like puppy's again...so cute.

katc10
2nd May 2009, 07:57 AM
lorebringer - thanks! :D

luvhavinbgtwins - I do the trimming myself. We're not made of money, and it's easy enough to do myself that I don't see the point in paying someone to do it for me. I just wait til the dogs are napping and do it then, as they're more relaxed and tolerant to my bothersome tasks (we do the same for trimming their nails). You hit it on the nose too - I love how it makes them look like puppies again! :wggle:

Just be ready with the vacuum for clean up, and I still can't quite get all the little doggy hairs out of my clothes afterward! :v*cuum:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3382/3256269052_13e377bfb3.jpg
(this photo was after only trimming the top of his body)

StillPooh
5th May 2011, 08:13 PM
I keep Archie trimmed,becos we have 2 acres here and he loves the back field,and rolling.I started getting Clancy groomed a year or so ago, and will never let his long hair grow back! He totally believes he is a sporting breed, and spends tons of time bombing through the underbrush chasing little woodland critters. Then he'd bring home all the sticks and leaves in his belly feathers and leave them in our bed! He also truly loathes being brushed.

He does indeed resemble a St. Bernard puppy when he's shaved, but I like it! And everyone he meets thinks he's adorable (and tells him so).

It gets quite hot here in the summer, so being clipped makes him more comfortable. In the winter, he has a selection of Fido Fleece jackets to wear. :-D