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brotymo
31st May 2009, 08:16 PM
I never wrote about it here, but I tried to find a way to get Pixie's mom from the puppy miller who had her. (Pixie was my cavalier who died last June in a delayed drowining accident for those unfamiliar with the story)The man has something like 300 dogs. I got up the courage to call him in December when I saw cavaliers disappear from his website. He informed me that he had sold all his cavaliers to one lady down near Atlanta due to them not producing for him. He claimed that this lady was having success with them because she "coddled" them, and he felt like they just didn't do well down in the kennels. :( He did give me her number. I waited a couple of days and called her. I didn't want to sound like I was after her "breeding stock", and I think she had the impression that I wanted to buy a puppy from Pixie's mom, who at the time didn't have pups. I thought I'd just keep my true desire to myself and try to go down and visit her, see how the pups lived and then try to buy her face to face. While I didn't ever get down there and see in person, from what the woman told me on the phone and from looking at her website, the dogs were in a much better (though still not ideal) situation. They got to sleep inside, had a whole yard and were the only dogs she had. This lady had a website and I'd look at it from time to time trying to work out how to best approach what I was wanting to do. Imagine my surprise when I pulled up her website on Friday and I see that all her cavaliers are for sale...here was the ad:


I am moving and must sell all of my cavaliers you must take all for one price.I have two blenheim females and one tri female and one black and tan male.This is the adults.now the tri female has four pups that come with her four weeks old. a blenheim female is in heat now and she had five pups last time the other blenheim female had four pups. I also have one blenheim female pup four months old. I also have one tri male four months old. They are all ckc.registered.
So I called her, but found out that she'd sold them all the day the ad came out. Now Pixie's mom is gone and all the dogs are in god-knows what type of situation. The lady said she felt good about who bought them, but from what she said, it obviously wasn't a rescue. She said that the woman had been trying to "get into cavaliers" for 2 years, but noone would sell her a puppy.

I am sad, I guess I always had hoped to save Pixie's mom. I'll never forget her sad little face when we walked away from the kennel with Pixie, her only puppy. She tried to follow us out, but the kennel owner shoved her back with his foot and slammed the gate in her face.

I should have done something sooner. I was just afraid I'd have one shot and didn't want to blow it.

Justine
31st May 2009, 08:56 PM
Dont feel bad,i am allways thinking i would love to buy and bring them all home,esp.when you see horrible pics of them being advertised,i saw a little one the other day and his eyes said it all,he looked sooo scared.Its hard.

brotymo
31st May 2009, 09:04 PM
Thanks Justine. I know I never should have bought Pixie in the first place. But I was ignorant about puppy mills back then. I figured this place was one isolated situation and that I was helping rescue this poor baby. She had horrible fleas. She had scratched her hair out behind her ears trying to get to them. She had ear mites, a yeast infection in her ears and tape worms. When we bathed her after bringing her home, the water ran red from her ears they were so bloody from her scratching them.

Kate H
31st May 2009, 09:45 PM
It's so hard, isn't it - you know the only way to put puppy farmers out of business is not to buy from them, but that means leaving their present stock in horrible conditions. The rescue where I got Aled specialises in taking dogs from puppy farms (many of them Cavaliers), and they need rescuing - but does it encourage the puppy farmers to know that they can dump their unwanted dogs on the rescue? It's really a tough one.

Kate, Oliver and Aled

*Pauline*
31st May 2009, 09:47 PM
Could you get the number of the lady who has them now? :hug:

Brenda in SC
31st May 2009, 09:59 PM
Good idea Pauline! If there was some way I could be of help, let me know.

You know, there are many of us in similar circumstances. After a lot of research I now know that Rudy came from some questionable circumstances - but due to distance of his origins, I can't confirm anything. But I sure wasn't leaving him once I saw him.

brotymo
31st May 2009, 11:12 PM
thanks guys. I might see if I can get that info. I don't want to seem like a stalker. it might make them reluctant to talk to me.

samsmom
1st June 2009, 12:49 AM
thanks guys. I might see if I can get that info. I don't want to seem like a stalker. it might make them reluctant to talk to me.

I think if you explained the situation to the woman who just had them she may understand and be helpful. I would atleast give it a try, there's no harm in trying.

mellie
1st June 2009, 04:11 AM
Good luck! I really hope you find her and get Pixie's mom. That is such a wonderful idea. Its really sad to think about all those wonderful, loving dogs and puppies in those conditions. I always want to buy the whole lot, so I have to stay away from places that have pets for sale in pet stores or on parking lots, etc. Its just too hard to see. I pray you have luck in finding and getting her. Maybe the person who bought them will have a heart. :xfngr:

meljoy
1st June 2009, 09:31 AM
There's no harm in trying and just think how you'll feel if a) you never try or b) you actually manage to give pixies Mum a forever home:l*v:

Mel

*Pauline*
1st June 2009, 10:19 AM
I don't think you'll be able to let this go until you have exhausted all avenues. If you can't get hold of the telephone number, so be it, you did your best.

Keep us posted, someone might have a better idea or hear of adverts etc to give you a lead. There are other American based forums that it might be a good idea to join with members who would be more in touch with things over there.

Daisy's Mom
1st June 2009, 02:50 PM
You are a wonderful person to think of adopting Pixie's mom. That would be a fantastic ending to the story, and a great tribute to your beloved Pixie. Even if you don't get it worked out, putting in the efforts you have is really an indication of your good heart.

I hate when I see ads in the newspaper or on websites trying to sell breeding dogs as a group. I saw one a few months ago and she even had the gall to put on one of the male's posting -- "breeding dog, not a pet"! That's just great, isn't it? And she said he was a "rescue" when he came to her. I got so mad, I wanted to hit something. So basically, she had treated him as a wild animal and she wanted to make sure that people knew that he was beyond hope. Nice.

What type of person does this woman think she's going to attract selling them as a group? She can't even bother trying to find decent homes for them individually? Seriously, it is just sickening how these people can guiltlessly unload these dogs to someone/anyone willing to fork over the money. I saw a similar ad in our local paper a couple of years ago and I contacted Lucky Star about it. We ended up getting them out of there before another BYB got a hold of them, thankfully, but there were just 2 of them, and the female was supposedly pregnant. It turned out she had a tumor and wasn't pregnant.

The only good thing about these ads is that it may indicate a trend that breeding cavaliers is not as profitable as these people thought? :xfngr: I can hope that anyway.

pippa
1st June 2009, 05:01 PM
I really hope you get a happy ending to this one.

*Pauline*
1st June 2009, 05:18 PM
...putting in the efforts you have is really an indication of your good heart.

:xctly:

brotymo
1st June 2009, 07:31 PM
Thanks for the kind words everyone. I appreciate them. I haven't given up. Unfortunately, Pixie's dad was sold to someone that I couldn't track down. The original lady who just sold them had bought him as well from Pixie's breeder but didn't keep him. She said he was too big (like 25 lbs or something) and she didn't want to be breeding him, so she'd already sold him. Truth is, she had one male and I think, for her, that was enough. She only needed one "sperm donor" and probably didn't want to feed any extra mouths that weren't female puppy producers.