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Kimmisue
23rd June 2009, 02:46 PM
I just Shaved my guys to help them with against the heat and they seem very comfortable ... but was almost assulted by a 4-H leader on how wrong I was to do it and the coat insulates the dogs against heat also.

What do you guys think? Honey hasn't panted since her hair cut and seems very happy.

chloe92us
23rd June 2009, 03:01 PM
I personally would not shave my dogs. However, if your dogs are more comfortable then shaving them is what works for you! ;)

DeeDee
23rd June 2009, 03:35 PM
I don't have Bailey shaved but I do have him cut in a long puppy cut. I have a wonderful groomer now who listens to what I say. I only have to do this once at the beginning of he hottest part of the year (they go in this Thursday) because as he is a blenheim he doesn't seem to get as hot as Max did (he was a tri with black being predominate). I had to have Max cut at east twice during the season. I remember my old groomer cut Max so short one time he looked like a shorn sheep. I almost had a heart attack :eek: and never took them back. I even have my golden, Mollie, trimmed up a little, mostly her tummy, feet and feathers.

I do this because we don't have air conditioning and it gets so hot and humid in our part of Ohio.

DeeDee
mom to Bailey and Mollie

harleyfarley
23rd June 2009, 03:37 PM
They are your dogs and as long as they are happy and are they the experts, its just their opinion. di

katc10
23rd June 2009, 04:53 PM
We shave ours during the hot months, I just did it this past week. I actually think they look cuter this way, more like puppies, and you can see the freckles on my tri now too. I trim up the ear length when I do it, but don't shave the ears or tail. I also noticed that after the last time we shaved Indy, her usually wiry hair grew in much softer than it had been previously. But I agree, they seem to get less hot and cool down faster after activity. :)

Here are shots of ours after their first time shaved. I did the tails that time, but it was so much work, not worth it, and no benefit to it really.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3641/3372042797_d1c0473e31.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3654/3372046229_5f08ff651f.jpg

jasperpaw
23rd June 2009, 05:22 PM
I personally wound`nt shave my boy but I can understand why some people do after seeing how thick a coat some cavaliers have, my boy has a fairly short coat so it has`nt been necessary, I think you just have to do what you feel is right for your dog.

Jasperxxgabby
23rd June 2009, 08:20 PM
Gabby had her first grooming session a few weeks ago, her fur was so thick and pretty longish she looked like a bear, Jasper usually gets groomed twice a year he has had one already and due another soon. They get shaved, although their feathers and skirt only gets a trim, they get a good sanitary trim and I state only a little off the length of their ears. I do it mainly for the heat so they are more comfortable.

merlinsmum
23rd June 2009, 11:36 PM
Only my personal opinion, but if the standard says don't trim, then why trim? a cavalier's personality is built up of all its attributes such as its hair - take that away and you take away thier personality?

of course if you are in a really hot country the it does make sense, otherwise why not buy a shorthaired breed? if you don't want the hassle......

My two have full coats, and just grooming them everyday/other day proves no issue that results in not even considering having to shave them....

Sorry, but I just think if you have to shave then you have the wrong breed to meet your lifestyle (unless you live in a hot country)

Kimmisue
24th June 2009, 01:57 PM
Thank you for all the advise... To the person who said I had the wrong breed .. I don't think so . The heat index today is supposed to be 100. My guys are groomed daily and go to the groomer monthly also the decision had nothing to do with that.

My guys are comfortable so I believe my decision was correct for them.


Thank you again

merlinsmum
24th June 2009, 02:33 PM
To the person who said I had the wrong breed .. I don't think so .

As per my post - its my personal opinion, and your original post was asking opinion



My guys are comfortable so I believe my decision was correct for them.



You are quite correct when you detail the heat you deal with - this was not detailed in your first post:-?

I'm sorry if I have offended you in anyway - but living in a country that doesn't get much in the way of sun you tend to think about them getting cold rather than too hot :p

Kimmisue
24th June 2009, 02:36 PM
None taken ....

I understand

pippa
24th June 2009, 02:50 PM
Only my personal opinion, but if the standard says don't trim, then why trim? a cavalier's personality is built up of all its attributes such as its hair - take that away and you take away thier personality?

of course if you are in a really hot country the it does make sense, otherwise why not buy a shorthaired breed? if you don't want the hassle......

My two have full coats, and just grooming them everyday/other day proves no issue that results in not even considering having to shave them....

Sorry, but I just think if you have to shave then you have the wrong breed to meet your lifestyle (unless you live in a hot country)


I have to agree, I would never shave mine, but each to thier own.

I just trim paws and bottom area and groom everyday day. mine have never even had their coats cut.

I do live in a milder climate,but when it is very warm I keep them where it is coolest and out of the direct sun.

Maybe if I lived in a country where it is really hot I would be different..but I really don't like the look of a shaved cavalier as it doesn't even look like a cavalier. Just my opinion though:)

chloe92us
24th June 2009, 03:08 PM
Heat index here was 110 :eek: yesterday. My cure for keeping the dogs cool when it's hot outside? Air conditioning! :rolleyes: Seriously, though, in this weather NO breed would be comfortable whether they have hair or not.

Jasperxxgabby
24th June 2009, 04:46 PM
Okay, I may be trying to defend the indefensible but here goes :D
a pic of Jasper days after the event
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2341/3540020645_4c172fc4e9.jpg

Pic of him a couple of weeks later
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3617/3540781900_03caff5362.jpg

This one of him is up to 6/7 weeks after his groom, taken on hols on end of May and obviously it as grown more.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3403/3657234846_db2b19d734.jpg

Here's one of Gabby taken weeks before her groom
http://farm4.static.flickr.com./3652/3656492419_bc2314c03b.jpg
Soz I haven't got a 'now' pic because the day she went to the groomers, Jasper was in the vets having xrays, his results were not good, and he's been poorly, so pics have taken a bit of a back seat since, but her ears are the same, she has her feathers and skirt and a full tail.
Just to say I follow the same grooming routine with them, brushing, rinsing Jaspers underneath daily :). I use K9 shampoo and Aussie leave in conditioner for their ears (occasionally). They always have their full coats for the colder months and through winter, always getting wet and mucky which they love, though not the baths and extra grooming (off me) afterwards :badgrin:.

Justine
24th June 2009, 05:14 PM
Archie is being done tomorrow.

Justine
24th June 2009, 05:26 PM
sorry Archie is only being trimmed.I dont mind seeing cavs shaved,but after Alfs was done his coat never grew nicely again,it was like cotton wool,it was dreadful.

cb2u
24th June 2009, 07:43 PM
I don't think there's any right or wrong when it comes to how we "style" our cavaliers. Most of them are pets, not show dogs, so styling is a matter of personal preference!

Jasper and Gabby are precious! :lotsaluv::lotsaluv:

Jasperxxgabby
24th June 2009, 08:25 PM
Thank you :D.

MishathePooh
25th June 2009, 02:22 PM
I'm in Ohio too with a tricolor and he is so much more comfortable being shaved in the summer months. I don't think it takes away from their personality or looks at all. As another poster said, they do tend to look more puppyish. I'd like to put a full fur coat on the 4H trainer in the summer and see how s/he feels.

It's just a hair cut, as long as your dog is a pet and not show dog, then whatever makes you both happy :)

Kimmisue
25th June 2009, 07:29 PM
I think Reggie looks just like he did as a puppy :)
Honey not so much ...


Thanks guys and all the photos are wonderful!!

Rj Mac
28th June 2009, 10:56 PM
We have a lot of woodland walks around our area, which with this being Scotland......mud and gutters are more of a problem that the heat, and we just keep ourgirls, shorter on the legs,feet, and underneath, to try and minimise the mess, but again i think its purely down to personal preferance, and a Cavalier is just as stunning with a trimmed coat....or a full coat :thmbsup:

R.

emsley
29th June 2009, 08:43 AM
I have hesitated to post a reply to this thread, because I, too, believe that the breed standard says 'don't trim', so I have never trimmed one of mine since I have had them - over 7 years.
However, with the arrival of Harry 7 months ago, now aged 11 years, he had an unbelievably thick and long coat, and was really suffering with the heat we have here at the moment - 25 - 28C. He has Grade 4+ heart murmurs and I was concerned in case his struggle against the heat was too much for his heart.
Last week he went to the groomers and I was very apprehensive. She left him a skirt, some feathers on his legs and a little on his tail and the effect on him has been remarkable!
He is acting like a puppy! He is full of life, he is striding out on his walks (before he walked like the old man he is) and is bouncing around. He has been shaved on his upper body, but if it gives him a new lease of life, it has been for the good!

Justine
29th June 2009, 09:33 AM
You dont need to shave,if the groomer is good she will just use sissors,so its a close cut thats all.It takes longer and cost more,but it looks better.Archie has been done this way.

denali
14th May 2011, 11:00 PM
We used to trim our tri boy, he had a very long coatand he was mostly black. We live in Australia it gets quite hot in the summer, so he did apprechiate it. alot!

His coat never grew back any different to what it was before, it always came back soft and silky and not thicker.

If you want to clip your dog, go ahead, he might love you for it :)