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Karlin
23rd July 2009, 11:20 PM
She is prone to occasional bouts of haemorrhagic gastroenteritis (HGE) where they can get bloody diarrhea and sometimes vomit.:grnyuk: This can be a risky condition if it gets advanced but she is always pretty resilient, though I watch her and make sure she stays hydrated. I have antibiotics for her so she is on those. She had a bad day of getting sick but I withheld food all day and since the afternoon, she has been OK. Poor little thing. She nonetheless had the energy to try to chase and catch flies. She's snoring very loudly now...:rolleyes:

*Pauline*
23rd July 2009, 11:39 PM
Sorry to hear Lily isn't well. I hope she's feeling better soon. Tummy troubles really are a pain. Get well soon Lily :hug:

pippa
23rd July 2009, 11:53 PM
Hope poor Lily is feeling better soon. It's terrible when they're not well:(

Lani
23rd July 2009, 11:58 PM
I hope that she feels better soon. Our Julie had something similar and it was so scary. Hope the antibiotics do the trick.

sins
24th July 2009, 12:11 AM
Have you tried probiotics Karlin,you can buy them as a powder and sprinkle over the food and it very good for digestive health.
I got Clostridia Difficile a few years ago(long story) and the only thing that sorted it was freeze dried capsules of probiotics(acidophilus and lactobacilli)
Sins

Mindysmom
24th July 2009, 12:21 AM
Poor girl

brid kenny
24th July 2009, 12:40 AM
GlaD she's doing okay. Am giggling to myself at the thought of her snoring! She woke me up at 5am one morning from another room when I had her.

Sabby
24th July 2009, 09:30 AM
Poor Lily. I hope she get better very soon. :hug:
Ebony had gastroenteritis last year. The bloody diarrhoea is always a worry. After two days at the vets she was as good as new.

Nicki
24th July 2009, 09:53 AM
Sorry to hear about poor Lily - this is a horrid condition, fortunately you are knowledgable about it.

If anyone else's dog does develop this - please get them to the vet immediately.

A friend of ours lost their Cavalier to HGE - she was in kennels whilst they were on holiday, and the staff came in in the morning to find her dead in a pool of bloody diarrhoea :(

Karlin
24th July 2009, 10:19 AM
Yes Nicki that is a really important point -- this is a condition that can rapidly turn fatal because the dog gets dehydrated very quickly. That's an awful story abut the poor cavalier in the kennels. :(

Lily seems to get light bouts now and then and the first time was very scary because they literally seem to be pooping blood :eek: (which they pretty much are). I was reading up on the condition and it is more common in small breeds and those between ages 2-4. It has been a while since Lily had a bad bout like this where she needs medication. She is like a little tank; keeps a good constitution.

She's much better today, slept all night without needing to go out (I could hear her snoring at about 4 am... :lol: ). No more vomiting. I withheld food for 24 hours and she just got a little bit of cooked hamburger this morning.


Am giggling to myself at the thought of her snoring! She woke me up at 5am one morning from another room when I had her.

I know, she is still loud but not nearly as bad as when you had her as a foster and I had her soon after! She was so fat, and her snoring was so loud, that I had to keep her in another room with two closed doors in between. With the weight loss her snoring is far quieter. :)

I think I will try probiotics with her and see if that helps. :thmbsup:

misty
24th July 2009, 11:03 AM
I hope Lily is feeling 100% soon, bless her.

I agree wholeheartedly with the advice given - Cazy started poo'ing blood about 18 months ago and we took her straight to the vet. She ended up hospitalised on a drip for about 3 days, and I'm so relieved we acted quickly, as I feel we could easily have lost her :(.

waldor
24th July 2009, 11:13 AM
I hope Lily is doing better. How awful for both of you! Any idea what triggers it? Our 8 m/o Cav tries to eat everything she finds outdoors, and I worry about that causing gastric problems.

Karlin
24th July 2009, 11:19 AM
They don't really know what triggers it but they do think 'dietary indiscretion' as it is called -- eg garbage guts eating anything -- can be a cause. Lily is a ground hoover too and I have to watch her.

See:

http://www.xomba.com/gastroenteritis_in_dogs_prevention_and_treatment
http://vetmedicine.about.com/cs/dogdiseasesh/a/HGEindogs.htm
http://pet-diseases.suite101.com/article.cfm/canine_gastroenteritis

misty
24th July 2009, 12:17 PM
They don't really know what triggers it but they do think 'dietary indiscretion' as it is called -- eg garbage guts eating anything -- can be a cause. Lily is a ground hoover too and I have to watch her.

See:

http://www.xomba.com/gastroenteritis_in_dogs_prevention_and_treatment
http://vetmedicine.about.com/cs/dogdiseasesh/a/HGEindogs.htm
http://pet-diseases.suite101.com/article.cfm/canine_gastroenteritis

That's interesting, Karlin.

Cazy has an obsession with plastic objects - usually remote controls or phones that she cuddles up to. I think it's a hangover from her backyard breeding days and she thinks they are pups. :( I wonder if a piece of plastic caused the original problem.

pinkpuppy
24th July 2009, 07:47 PM
Hope Lily is feeling better Karlin. :flwr:

Thank you for links. I worry about Tricky sniffing the ground and eating everything from bits of styrofoam and the occasional junk food we consume.

Karlin
24th July 2009, 07:55 PM
She thanks you for all the kind thoughts and wishes to state that she is much better -- and is having great fun annoying everyone by emitting the foulest farts ever, even taking into account that she is a gaseous dog to begin with and thinks of such emissions as a canine art form. :yuk:

Nicki
24th July 2009, 08:28 PM
ROFLOL so glad she's better, I think we had better not put Lily and Daisy together in a room, it could explode!!

Karlin
24th July 2009, 08:33 PM
Just don't light a match.

Or isn't that supposed to burn off the methane? :lol:

tupup
24th July 2009, 08:43 PM
Those are known as *the stinkersons* in our house:lol:
Im really glad Lily is back on form, what a relief:flwr:

Thank you for posting the links i will be reading those as im wondering if the virus that ruby had earlier this year was this, with the bleeding/vomiting & i know that if id have left her until morning (as the vet said after seeing her early eve) & not called the vet out at 3am i would have lost her like the poor cavalier in kennels:(

i hope some probiotics help

pinkpuppy
24th July 2009, 09:01 PM
Glad Lily is feeling better. With that much methane emission might be a good idea to use it to run a small moped. J/K

waldor
24th July 2009, 09:12 PM
Just don't light a match.

Or isn't that supposed to burn off the methane? :lol:

Hhmmm.... could this cause global warming? :D

I'm so glad Lily is doing better. Nothing worse than a dog with the back-door trots.

I worry about our own Cav's ground hoover fixation, mostly with objects from trees. I'm constantly taking bark mulch, twigs, grass clumps and pebbles out of her mouth. Must be the bird dog in their DNA?

Karlin
24th July 2009, 09:40 PM
With Lily I could take the house off meter and use her to produce all my electricity and, dare I say, 'gas' for the cooker and oven... :rotfl:

Maybe she could spend the day in a small airtight chamber that would draw her emissions into some sort of power converter device... :*gh:

HollyDolly
24th July 2009, 11:29 PM
Pleased to hear Lily is feeling better, Cassie used to suffer terribly with this until the vet found a drug that helped enormously. She had to take a quarter of a tablet every day for the rest of her life, but can I remember the name of this pill, they do say Gabapentin can cause memory loss but gosh only been on it a day:D

Hope she continues getting well again. a kiss from Aunty Nanette.

sarahso
25th July 2009, 08:52 PM
Poor Lily, hope she is feeling better soon

Karlin
25th July 2009, 08:55 PM
Her poops actually have a shape again albeit saggy but better than what was coming out before. :yikes

She is curled up with Leo. Meanwhile Lucy spent about three hours working through her birthday piece of dried tripe with her 7 remaining teeth and is sound asleep, exhausted from the effort I think! :lol:

Lily still scenting the air... :shock:

Nicki
25th July 2009, 08:56 PM
Nanette, was it Flagyl - Metronidazole?

Teddy, my Ruby is on this permanently, he has small intestinal bacterial overgrowth and without the drug - actually an antibiotic - he gets diarrhoea all the time. He has 1 tablet daily - 200mg tablets- divided into two doses, but is a bigger Cavalier.

Sorry you're feeling a bit "spaced out" on the Gabapentin - hopefully the pain relief will kick in soon though.

Claire L
26th July 2009, 12:35 PM
Sorry I missed this. Glad to read that Lily is on the mend :hug:

Karlin
26th July 2009, 12:48 PM
This morning we reached the joyful moment of a solid poop. Of such small 'pleasures' is the dog owner's life made... :rolleyes: :lol:

Lani
26th July 2009, 12:51 PM
This morning we reached the joyful moment of a solid poop. Of such small 'pleasures' is the dog owner's life made... :rolleyes: :lol:

Quite a cause for celebration!!! :rah:

sins
26th July 2009, 12:57 PM
That's good, she seems well on her way to recovery.
Sins

george108
26th July 2009, 01:36 PM
This morning we reached the joyful moment of a solid poop. Of such small 'pleasures' is the dog owner's life made... :rolleyes: :lol:


Very true. We just almost threw a party because Chrissie did a poop after having a very upset tummy!!

Margaret C
26th July 2009, 06:10 PM
This morning we reached the joyful moment of a solid poop. Of such small 'pleasures' is the dog owner's life made... :rolleyes: :lol:


That is so true.
Sad really, we don't ask a lot out of life.

So pleased Lily is better.

Do you think our cavaliers are contributing to global warming?

Thelly
26th July 2009, 08:04 PM
So glad to hear Lilly has managed a proper poo!!

I've had the same weekend here with one of our borders. Woke on Saturday morning to a very very messy kitchen. Got poor little girl straight to the vets - she had HGE. We had the semi messy poo today :grnyuk: and hoping for the proper one tomorrow!!!

It's scary how then can be perfect one minute and awful the next!

casshon
27th July 2009, 01:07 PM
Only catchin up now - sorry to hear Lily was sick but glad she is better now. Bella had a bout of this a while back so I know how worrying it can be. Sounds like Lily is back to her old self now :)