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26th December 2010, 07:30 PM
Getting our Cavalier on New years eve she will be 7 weeks old.
question is should I get a clip on bowl for her crate/cage for water as I understand water is to be left in there all the time.
Also am I right to place the puppy training pad right outside of the cage or is it best to put it over the other side of the room?

26th December 2010, 10:14 PM
Hi and welcome to the board. :)

Too be honest -- and this is meant kindly but honestly :flwr: -- I think the very first thing to do is to ask the breeder to please keep your puppy for at *least* an additional week or perhaps reconsider if this is a person you really want to get a puppy from at all. 7 weeks is really far too immature for a puppy to be rehomed (it is actually illegal to home puppies before 8 weeks in many US states and countries and violates most reputable international dog breed club guidelines). It is pretty well recognised that puppies homed this young are at real risk of ending up with behaviour and socialisation problems because they are pulled from mother and siblings too early (see some previous posts by TKC, one of our resident qualified and certified trainers). Even an extra week would make for major advantages at this very young age but longer is far better.

Reputable breeders in mot breeds but this breed in particular (where puppies are so small) generally place puppies at a minimum of 10-12 weeks -- after they have had or are close to finishing their complete set of puppy injections and thus have some immunity to puppy-killing diseases like distemper and parvo; they are well on their way to being socialised with dogs and humans, are larger and less fragile (especially critical if the puppy is going to a home with children, who can easily seriously harm a pup this age by accidentally stepping or sitting on it as they are still tiny babies), and in every single way are far easier for the new home to manage. The toughest weeks are 8-12 or so when housetraining needs someone there all day long and puppies taken out every hour or two and constantly supervised and managed. This eases a lot by even 12 weeks. Pups have massive developmental changes every week at this stage and also will gain a couple of pounds in that time -- a big difference in solidity and strength.

If the breeder will not keep this puppy with its mother for any further time I'd reconsider the breeder as honestly no reputable breeder would home this young -- it is a classic sign of a backyard breeder, broker or puppy farmer. :(

If you are stuck taking the little one at this stage -- then please keep the puppy in a quiet room well away from new year's festivities. Reputable breeders also won't generally home dogs on holidays, most particularly the Christmas thru new year's period, as it is generally so stressful for the pup as there is simply too much noise, people, activity -- and people coming in from outside can bring in diseases like parvo on their shoes. :thmbsup:

On housetraining -- most trainers and experienced dog owners (me included! :lol:) say to not waste your time on puppy pads but start as you mean to have your dog behave throughout its life -- train to the outside or you effectively have to housetrain *twice* -- tedious and unnecessary. Please donwload Dr Ian Dunbar's *free!!!* book After You Get Your Puppy to get an excellent guide to setting up a puppy pen (with pads if you feel you must use them) at http://dogstardaily.com/free-downloads. There are also lots of links to training sheets pinned to the top of the training section on the board here.

Finally -- a puppy needs access to water all the time (except initially it is good to take it up an hour or two before bedtime to help with housetraining). You can get a bowl or a clip on dish -- whatever you prefer.

27th December 2010, 01:16 PM
thanks for the response, to be honest there is only me and my daughter at home and its quiet, I am happy to have the puppy at this time as it comes from a breeder who is very experienced, daughters dad already has 3 year old cav from her.
No other dogs have been in my garden so I may well introduce her to the garden for toilet time, once she has had her jabs, initially I may try with the puppy pads
I may actually have her age slightly wrong anyway, as I dont know her d.o.b so she may well be 8 weeks, either way this wasnt a quick purchase and the breeder was recommended so I am happy with that.
Thanks for your input though

27th December 2010, 10:38 PM
Most Cav breeders I came accross did not let pups go until at least 10 weeks old. They need that extra time to learn how to be a dog. Believe it or not, 2 weeks does not sound like much time, but it is a crucial developmental period for a puppy. I would be a bit hesitant about this breeder, and I also don't mean to sound rude and mean all this with the best intentions because I personally had a horrible experience with a breeder before.

I got a Rottweiler from a "well known" breeder, I took him home at 6 weeks. This breed is one that shouldn't be let go until 8 weeks, and well I suffered because of that. He had horrible bite inhibition, was scared of other dogs, and very unconfident. Those extra two weeks could have done wonders for him. In addition, turns out his breeder was just in it for the money and we ended up with nothing but health problems with this boy and lost him when he was just 3 years old.

Please please be careful! I honestly wish you the best and welcome to the forum, it is such a great place for info!

28th December 2010, 12:46 AM
I got my boy Guinness the day he turned 12 weeks, he weighed a little under 5 lbs, and was so tiny I was afraid I would squish him accidentally. I couldn't imagine getting a cavalier at a younger age.

I know that it's hard to wait for a new puppy, but that extra time with the mother/siblings is so crucial.

If I were you I would call and ask what day the pups were born. Personally, I would not buy a dog from this breeder. If no money has changed hands I would inform the breeder that the AKC doesn't allow puppies to be homed before 8 weeks, and politely decline the puppy. Most likely you've already paid a deposit, it's unlikely you would be able to get that money back.

Is this puppy AKC registered?