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Sandrac
2nd January 2011, 08:23 AM
I met Jemima (Pedigree Dogs Exposed) at Discover Dogs in November and she saw a photograph which had been taken of Minnie doing Agility.

Jemima has used this photo in her blog (together with a link to Tania's fantastic Cavalier Matters (http://www.cavaliermatters.org/)web site) to highlight the problems in the cavalier breed and ends with the question:

"Anyone know any more about this, or exactly why some of the cavalier clubs are questioning the validity of the new SM screening scheme?"


http://pedigreedogsexposed.blogspot....p-too-far.html (http://pedigreedogsexposed.blogspot.com/2011/01/cavaliers-leap-too-far.html)

Bet
2nd January 2011, 12:01 PM
I met Jemima (Pedigree Dogs Exposed) at Discover Dogs in November and she saw a photograph which had been taken of Minnie doing Agility.

Jemima has used this photo in her blog (together with a link to Tania's fantastic Cavalier Matters (http://www.cavaliermatters.org/)web site) to highlight the problems in the cavalier breed and ends with the question:

"Anyone know any more about this, or exactly why some of the cavalier clubs are questioning the validity of the new SM screening scheme?"

http://pedigreedogsexposed.blogspot.com/

MINNIE and JEMIMA HARRISON'S BLOG SPOT


Sandrac, can I thank you for bring Jemima Harrison's Blog to our Notice where she has mentioned Minnie and the Health Problems Afflcting our Cavaliers ,SM and MVD.

That some Cavalier Clubs are sadly not Endorsing the New KC/BVA SM SCreening Program,but as Jemima Harrison's Blog Mentions ,maybe this is not surprising when some Top Cavalier Breeders continue to use Under Age Cavaliers for Breeding from.

The Breeding Guideline Recommendations are mentioned in her Blog.

Also the Mention of a High Profile Cavalier Breeder who has used a Cavalier Stud 9 times before 1 year of age .

She would like more information about this, also why some of the Cavalier Clubs are Questioning the Validity of the SM Screening Scheme.

This Blog from Jemima Harrison makes very interesting Reading .

Bet

Nicki
2nd January 2011, 12:45 PM
Well done Sandra - so sad that Minnie suffers with SM, but it's great that you are helping to raise awareness by contributing to Jemima's blog.


IMHO I am wary of affected dogs doing too much high excitement activity - it is hard to get a balance, they need to have a good quality of life but not if that is going to aggravate their condition.

Just something to be aware of....


I am going to put Jemima and the author of the Two little Cavaliers blog http://www.twolittlecavaliers.blogspot.com/ in touch, as they are both looking for more information about SM - the Two Little Cavaliers lady is devoting a week to SM and is looking for help

I have decided to tackle Syringomyelia (SM/CM) one of the most devastating diseases to the Cavalier breed. Syringomyelia (SM) is an extremely serious condition in which fluid-filled cavities develop within the spinal cord near the brain. It is also known as "neck scratcher's disease", because one of its common signs is scratching in the air near the neck. While the Cavalier is the breed most effected (or maybe its just that we admit it and testing has begun) other small breeds are effected as well.

The event will take place January 23 - 30th and I will be posting all the information I can get my hands on in order to help spread awareness. As a Blogger it is my responsibility tp make people aware of what is going on. Genetic diseases are something that no one wants to take on so I will but I need help. That is where you all come in. I am looking for:

Breeders who are currently doing MRI testing that would like to write a Guest Post
Owners who have dogs affected by the disease no matter what breed they are who would like to share their dog's story
Veterinarians (neurologists mainly)
Bloggers who would like to cross post the event on their blog to help spread awareness even further


If you would like to participate please email us twolittlecavaliers@gmail.com and let us know how you would like to help.

Our February Awareness event will be Mitral Valve Disease (MVD) quite fitting for the month of February.

Margaret C
2nd January 2011, 02:16 PM
Hello Sandra,

It is a lovely photo of Minnie.
It is hard to believe what she has gone through, bless her.

I know that some cavalier owners think that cavalier club politics have nothing to do with them as they are "just pet owners" but this PDE blog quite rightly links how the decisions of the clubs, and the actions of those that run breed clubs, will continue to influence the health of cavaliers.

If you have a SM or MVD affected dog ( or even if you don't ) please get involved. Have your say by leaving a comment on Jemima's blog or by joining in the FaceBook awareness events that is being planned for later this month.

There are some really caring breeders out there, but unfortunately they keep their heads down and allow the more unpleasant commercial breeders to be their mouthpiece.
The problem is, of course, that while uncaring breeders are those that have the ear of the Kennel Club, and they can continue to delay progress, then the health issues in the puppies that pet owners buy will continue to multiply.

While the "responsible club breeders" will not even breed according to their own club guidelines then how can the KC be expected to start tightening up on other breeders?

I actually blogged about the secrecy surrounding the decision by some regional clubs to reject the official scanning scheme a few weeks ago..........

http://www.cavaliertalk.com/forums/entry.php?153-Is-the-BVA-KC-MRI-Scheme-an-Official-Secret


*Footnote.......... There has been a couple more blogs added since Jemima wrote about Minnie, so go into http://pedigreedogsexposed.blogspot.com/ (http://pedigreedogsexposed.blogspot.com/) & then scroll down until you come to the lovely photo of a little cavalier flying over an agility jump.

Nicki
2nd January 2011, 04:08 PM
Direct link

http://pedigreedogsexposed.blogspot.com/2011/01/cavaliers-leap-too-far.html

Margaret C
2nd January 2011, 05:53 PM
Direct link

http://pedigreedogsexposed.blogspot.com/2011/01/cavaliers-leap-too-far.html


Thanks Nicki,

I have posted a comment, hopefully it will appear after approval.

Bet
4th January 2011, 07:47 PM
I met Jemima (Pedigree Dogs Exposed) at Discover Dogs in November and she saw a photograph which had been taken of Minnie doing Agility.

Jemima has used this photo in her blog (together with a link to Tania's fantastic Cavalier Matters (http://www.cavaliermatters.org/)web site) to highlight the problems in the cavalier breed and ends with the question:

"Anyone know any more about this, or exactly why some of the cavalier clubs are questioning the validity of the new SM screening scheme?"


http://pedigreedogsexposed.blogspot....p-too-far.html (http://pedigreedogsexposed.blogspot.com/2011/01/cavaliers-leap-too-far.html)

MINNIE AND JEMIMA HARRISON'S BLOG SPOT.

Just read the Following Comment from the Breeder of Minnie,

He wonders if infact SM is the Terrible Painful Disease that some would want us to Believe.

This person is a Regional CKCS CLUB HEALTH REP, also a Member of the UK CKCS CLUB COMMITTEE..

Bet

Margaret C
4th January 2011, 11:01 PM
MINNIE AND JEMIMA HARRISON'S BLOG SPOT.

Just read the Following Comment from the Breeder of Minnie,

He wonders if infact SM is the Terrible Painful Disease that some would want us to Believe.

This person is a Regional CKCS CLUB HEALTH REP, also a Member of the UK CKCS CLUB COMMITTEE..

Bet

You are wrong about this breeder being on the UK Club committee. He is, as you say, a regional club health representative and a committee member for the same regional club.

He is the health representative who registered three litters in the last Kennel Club Supplement, all of them sired by his own underage dogs.
It is because of people like him that all attempts to save this breed will fail.

Karlin
4th January 2011, 11:29 PM
I've talked to neurologists on the issue of cavaliers with SM being active and a spinal health issue is not the same as say a leg injury. The spine actually tends to maintain itself or even improve through keeping exercised -- this includes spines with syrinxes, but I'd guess it would depend on the activity. Activity also produces the seratonins that create a good feeling and can help pain naturally. I know many of us with SM dogs have noted that they actually seem to be more able and symptom free when out running and doing activities than when sitting inside on a sofa (and spine specialists do say the worst thing that can be done is to sit and do nothing). I can't imagine forcing my SM dogs to sit about doing nothing -- pain meds allow a relatively normal life and have for over half a decade for one of my SM dogs. He has not suffered any great increase in his syrinx over that time (MRId at 1 and at nearly 6).

I also think that as Nicki says there's a balance -- you want a dog to stay as active as suits and and enjoy life, not be locked away but also, not overstressed or over exercised. Pain meds are used by millions of people all the time -- including athletes, dancers and labourers -- to enable them to do work or pleasurable activity that is not necessarily worsening an underlying painful condition, simply eliminating nerve pain. As long as a neurologist -- who after all has scanned and assessed the dog -- says activity is fine, and may be what actually most gives meaning and joy in the dog's life, then follow the doctor's informed suggestions for activity levels. But I'd avoid excessive activity.

It is definitely known that bearing down and straining can cause people and dogs with SM a lot of pain - even so severe as to cause blackouts in people, for example. There is good evidence that SM dogs can be in enormous pain having litters of puppies. So surely, for the breeders concerned about activity, they really should once again be focused on scanning their own dogs to make sure they are not putting them through a potentially extra painful birth process that could worsen the dog's perhaps un-spotted SM? And of course, so that they aren't breeding as blindly as puppy farmers regarding health issues.

Karlin
4th January 2011, 11:37 PM
This is what the Mayo Clinic site says for human SM -- not necessarily a direct relationship, but note exercise is actually considered helpful for the condition; it is generally high impact sports that are considered a problem. I wouldn't think moderate agility would come close to being a high impact sport, nor would running or playing.


Avoid activities that may make symptoms worse
If you've been diagnosed with syringomyelia, avoid any activity that involves lifting, straining, or putting excessive force on your spine. These activities include, among others:

Playing high-impact sports, such as football and rugby
Riding roller coasters
Skydiving
Straining during a bowel movement
Excessive coughing (talk to your doctor about treatment if coughing persists)
Lifting anything that weighs more than 15 pounds

Consider physical therapy
If syringomyelia causes ongoing neurological problems that decrease your mobility and activity — such as muscle weakness, pain, fatigue or stiffness — a physical therapist may be able to create an exercise program for you that can help reduce these symptoms. Talk to your doctor about physical therapists in your area who have expertise in neurological conditions.

anniemac
5th January 2011, 12:43 AM
I know that some cavalier owners think that cavalier club politics have nothing to do with them as they are "just pet owners" but this PDE blog quite rightly links how the decisions of the clubs, and the actions of those that run breed clubs, will continue to influence the health of cavaliers.

If you have a SM or MVD affected dog ( or even if you don't ) please get involved. Have your say by leaving a comment on Jemima's blog or by joining in the FaceBook awareness events that is being planned for later this month.

There are some really caring breeders out there, but unfortunately they keep their heads down and allow the more unpleasant commercial breeders to be their mouthpiece.
The problem is, of course, that while uncaring breeders are those that have the ear of the Kennel Club, and they can continue to delay progress, then the health issues in the puppies that pet owners buy will continue to multiply.



I can't speak for the kennel club or the national clubs but I know the clubs are not just for show. There are dedicated breeders that I gladly support and got an email today from one regional club that actually has been in touch and been working hard to get the owner of animalscan to agree to lower costs of MRI for breeders.

It is exciting to see these things and I think these things should be proud of. The ones who are standing up and putting health first are so important

I find it interesting how the comments against are always anonymous


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Nicki
5th January 2011, 09:04 AM
Thank you SO much for posting that Karlin, it's really helpful - I've not seen it before. Definitely very useful for helping manage the condition.

Bet
5th January 2011, 10:35 AM
You are wrong about this breeder being on the UK Club committee. He is, as you say, a regional club health representative and a committee member for the same regional club.

He is the health representative who registered three litters in the last Kennel Club Supplment, all of them sired by his own underage dogs.
It is because of people like him that all attempts to save this breed will fail.

MINNIE AND JEMIMA HARRISON 'S BLOG SPOT.


Sorry about my Mistake ,but what chance has the Cavalier Breed got of having a Future when some-body like this is a Health Representative ,I would have thought a Health Representative would have had to Show a better example and be following the Breeding Guideline Recommendations.

I really think that we who are trying to help the Cavaliers with their SM and MVD Problems , are Banging our Heads our Heads against a Brick Wall.

There will never be a change in the Attitudes of some Cavalier Breeders who hold Influential Positions in the Cavalier Breed.

We may as well stop trying and let the Cavaliers become an Extinct Breed ,as what will surely happen if what is happening here in Britain to-day amongst some Cavalier Breeders.

No they are not Cavalier Puppy Farmers.

What a Start this has been for 2011 for our Beloved Cavaliers , I really thought things would improve ,but the Bitter Bickering is Still Happening amongst some Cavalier Breeders .

It has been brought Home to Me, that some Cavalier Breeders have NO INTENTION of ever Changing their Views.

NEVER IN A MONTH OF SUNDAYS WILL THEY AGREE TO THE KC/BVA SCHEME of Cavaliers being MRI'd ,they will look for every Excuse under the Sun to Stop this Happening .

Bet

Sandrac
5th January 2011, 12:04 PM
I've talked to neurologists on the issue of cavaliers with SM being active and a spinal health issue is not the same as say a leg injury. The spine actually tends to maintain itself or even improve through keeping exercised -- this includes spines with syrinxes, but I'd guess it would depend on the activity. Activity also produces the seratonins that create a good feeling and can help pain naturally. I know many of us with SM dogs have noted that they actually seem to be more able and symptom free when out running and doing activities than when sitting inside on a sofa (and spine specialists do say the worst thing that can be done is to sit and do nothing). I can't imagine forcing my SM dogs to sit about doing nothing -- pain meds allow a relatively normal life and have for over half a decade for one of my SM dogs. He has not suffered any great increase in his syrinx over that time (MRId at 1 and at nearly 6).

I also think that as Nicki says there's a balance -- you want a dog to stay as active as suits and and enjoy life, not be locked away but also, not overstressed or over exercised. Pain meds are used by millions of people all the time -- including athletes, dancers and labourers -- to enable them to do work or pleasurable activity that is not necessarily worsening an underlying painful condition, simply eliminating nerve pain. As long as a neurologist -- who after all has scanned and assessed the dog -- says activity is fine, and may be what actually most gives meaning and joy in the dog's life, then follow the doctor's informed suggestions for activity levels. But I'd avoid excessive activity.

It is definitely known that bearing down and straining can cause people and dogs with SM a lot of pain - even so severe as to cause blackouts in people, for example. There is good evidence that SM dogs can be in enormous pain having litters of puppies. So surely, for the breeders concerned about activity, they really should once again be focused on scanning their own dogs to make sure they are not putting them through a potentially extra painful birth process that could worsen the dog's perhaps un-spotted SM? And of course, so that they aren't breeding as blindly a puppy farmers regarding health issues.


Karlin, Thankyou for putting it into perspective. :)

I have never done competitive agility with Minnie (nor would want to after seeing some of the things that go on at competitions). We do FUN agility for an hour on Sunday mornings weather permitting and all the participants are pet dog owners who do not wish to compete. The Dog Training School where we go also do a few displays of agility, heelwork to music and rally during the summer for charities etc. and it was at one of these last September that the photograph of Minnie was taken.

At no time would I ever do anything that might in anyway compromise Minnie's condition, or against the advice of any veterinary professional.

espagna
5th January 2011, 12:51 PM
Karlin, Thankyou for putting it into perspective. :)

I have never done competitive agility with Minnie (nor would want to after seeing some of the things that go on at competitions). We do FUN agility for an hour on Sunday mornings weather permitting and all the participants are pet dog owners who do not wish to compete. The Dog Training School where we go also do a few displays of agility, heelwork to music and rally during the summer for charities etc. and it was at one of these last September that the photograph of Minnie was taken.

At no time would I ever do anything that might in anyway compromise Minnie's condition, or against the advice of any veterinary professional.

Could it be maybe confused and misinterpreted when you said she won an agility competition? Esther

Brian M
5th January 2011, 12:54 PM
Hello Sandra

Having read all the comments about your beautiful Minnie and knowing your true love and devotion for Minnie we are all in no doubt that you would ever treat your beloved Cavalier with nothing but tender care and bucket loads of love .
We are also all now fully aware that the person making ... comments elsewhere is also a Regional CKCS CLUB HEALTH REP, also a Member of the UK CKCS CLUB COMMITTEE ,what hope is there when we have these people in prominent positions and others like him also being so critical but with no knowledge of the true facts ,so please Sandra you and Minnie continue having such fun within the limitations that you are fully aware of and which others are so obviously not .
Its another case of such people making such fools of themselves for all to see and this person who with such contempt is breaking the Breeding Guideline Recommendations and who registered three litters as in the last Kennel Club Supplement, all of them sired by his own underage dogs.
Thankfully I am only a humble pet owner who neither breeds nor shows .

Nicki
5th January 2011, 01:01 PM
We are also all now fully aware that the person making ...comments elsewhere is also a Regional CKCS CLUB HEALTH REP, also a Member of the UK CKCS CLUB COMMITTEE ...

Brian I've edited your post as we do not allow personal attacks on people

Also please note he is NOT a member of the UK CKCS CLUB COMMITTEE, as Margaret pointed out above, he is however regional club health representative and a committee member for the same regional club.

Margaret C
5th January 2011, 11:32 PM
I have been following with great interest a discussion sparked off by Jemima's blog about Minnie.

There are some well thought out points being made by some of the decent caring owners that this breed so needs. Unfortunately they are not being answered.

I am so disgusted with the hypocrisy being displayed by some of the breeders posting on that discussion I decided I would just point out a few salient facts.......
And before the people concerned start issuing threats ( a favourite top breeder ploy ) I would like to remind them you cannot be sued when the facts are true.

Minnie's breeder wrote on the thread in question that some might query if "SM is the terrible painful disease that some would want us to believe."
Just to set the record straight he, like all the others posting negative comments about the blog, and later about the proposed BVA/KC scheme, know they have bred affected dogs over many years.

No shame for what was done unknowingly in the past, but what sort of person is it who now maintains ( falsely as it happens ) that he knows all about SM, and will then come out with a callous and dismissive remark like that. He needs to read a few of the stories here.

There is a lot of research information published about SM. Health representatives should really try and keep up with the studies.

Another negative poster, a past regional club chairman and ex-health representative, has in the past talked, although only on pet forums, about her eleven month old SM affected puppy that was diagnosed and operated on in 2001. The puppy's sire was her own well known stud dog.

She touchingly described this little dog as " the light of my life" and fortunately the shunt was successful, but she saw this puppy suffering pain so extreme that he needed surgery before he was a year old, so what sort of breeder is she to then send a post that suggests that SM is due to the trauma of exercise?

This was by no means the only affected puppy from her line. She has known for many years of other affected dogs she has bred.

I could also talk about the SM dogs bred by the regional chairman/ health representative who complains about the extra cost of the official scheme, but finds the money to go to nearly every far flung show.

If you want to see duplicity in action go and read the posts.

anniemac
6th January 2011, 12:59 AM
I am still amazed..Tania had a great comment from the view of a pet owner

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Bet
6th January 2011, 11:56 AM
I have been following with great interest a discussion sparked off by Jemima's blog about Minnie.

There are some well thought out points being made by some of the decent caring owners that this breed so needs. Unfortunately they are not being answered.

I am so disgusted with the hypocrisy being displayed by some of the breeders posting on that discussion I decided I would just point out a few salient facts.......
And before the people concerned start issuing threats ( a favourite top breeder ploy ) I would like to remind them you cannot be sued when the facts are true.

Minnie's breeder wrote on the thread in question that some might query if "SM is the terrible painful disease that some would want us to believe."
Just to set the record straight he, like all the others posting negative comments about the blog, and later about the proposed BVA/KC scheme, know they have bred affected dogs over many years.

No shame for what was done unknowingly in the past, but what sort of person is it who now maintains ( falsely as it happens ) that he knows all about SM, and will then come out with a callous and dismissive remark like that. He needs to read a few of the stories here.

There is a lot of research information published about SM. Health representatives should really try and keep up with the studies.

Another negative poster, a past regional club chairman and ex-health representative, has in the past talked, although only on pet forums, about her eleven month old SM affected puppy that was diagnosed and operated on in 2001. The puppy's sire was her own well known stud dog.

She touchingly described this little dog as " the light of my life" and fortunately the shunt was successful, but she saw this puppy suffering pain so extreme that he needed surgery before he was a year old, so what sort of breeder is she to then send a post that suggests that SM is due to the trauma of exercise?

This was by no means the only affected puppy from her line. She has known for many years of other affected dogs she has bred.

I could also talk about the SM dogs bred by the regional chairman/ health representative who complains about the extra cost of the official scheme, but finds the money to go to nearly every far flung show.

If you want to see duplicity in action go and read the posts.


MINNIE and JEMIMA HARRISON'SBLOG SPOT

Could the EX HEALTH REPRESENTATIVE be the same Person, who on a Cavalier Forum , made such Disparagining Remarks about the UK CKCS CLUB'S Cardiologist ,that I resigned from that Regional Club.

Bet

anniemac
6th January 2011, 01:39 PM
Its quite funny the attacks on jemima. The comments themselves are what is damaging the most. Still did anyone answer or your question margaret? If they did then people would not have to speculate. I still don't understand what they can achieve but creating more unhealthy dogs.

Someone mentioned this in a comment and I was curious before but did not ask because I did not think anyone would want to talk about other breeds. I just wondered how the bulldog club reacted or other breed clubs? Is the cavalier club not really generating the best image? I did read that they were given something to actually change the look of the bulldog. They obviously spoke why they wanted more time. Also just by having a roommate with an english bulldog I knew the had health issues etc. I don't think that was being hidden. however changing the actual look is so much more than simply having a what changes the kc suggested.

In the usa, I am always seeing "the great dane society" at pet events with a table or their own function to promote health awareness in their breed and raise money to support their health. I've always wondered and also others "why can't we do that" I guess tania did, but such a shame because I actually respect how they are active. who knows maybe just maybe if they were public and had events they could help pay for the 100 pounds which is nothing compared to other areas in the world.

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Margaret C
6th January 2011, 03:16 PM
In the usa, I am always seeing "the great dane society" at pet events with a table or their own function to promote health awareness in their breed and raise money to support their health.

Anne

In the dog breeding world things are not always what they seem and people can lie.

Some breeds with caring breeders running the clubs are very good. The problem is that if you have a popular breed dominated by commercially minded breeders then these health awareness events do not happen, or at the very best happen only in a very controlled manner.

I raised money for heart and health funds for years and ran a health table, but it made me very unpopular indeed, and suggestions as to how the money should be used were vetoed by committee members.
Efforts to deal with the spreading problem of SM were quite frankly sabotaged.

You will see the same process going on now.

Take for instance the health representative who has said she will email all her members for their opinion of the official MRI scheme and take their views to the meeting on 3rd February.

she wrote
"I have simply cut and pasted details of the scheme from the Cavalier Club web site and am asking for comments"

The notes on the scheme include........

"The scheme cost is not finalised yet but is expected to be in the order of £80 – £100. This will be in addition to the cost of the scan

This person is being a little economical with the truth. She has not cut & pasted this sentence onto her email attachment as she says, she has taken it from within the notes, added it at the end, and highlighted it by writing it in capital letters

The scheme cost is not finalised yet but is expected to cost between £80 – £100.
THIS WILL BE IN ADDITION TO THE COST OF THE SCAN.

No bias, or attempt to influence there then?

One promising development is that Mark Marshall, who was recently removed without any explanation from the breeders' forum, has offered to take over her health representative position and accompany her to the February meeting.

There can be no doubt that this will be an enormous relief to her as she has stated so many times.....

"I did not want to be the Health Rep for my Club it's just a job I have to do because no-one else wants it either"

Bet
6th January 2011, 07:19 PM
Anne

In the dog breeding world things are not always what they seem and people can lie.

Some breeds with caring breeders running the clubs are very good. The problem is that if you have a popular breed dominated by commercially minded breeders then these health awareness events do not happen, or at the very best happen only in a very controlled manner.

I raised money for heart and health funds for years and ran a health table, but it made me very unpopular indeed, and suggestions as to how the money should be used were vetoed by committee members.
Efforts to deal with the spreading problem of SM were quite frankly sabotaged.

You will see the same process going on now.

Take for instance the health representative who has said she will email all her members for their opinion of the official MRI scheme and take their views to the meeting on 3rd February.

she wrote
"I have simply cut and pasted details of the scheme from the Cavalier Club web site and am asking for comments"

The notes on the scheme include........

"The scheme cost is not finalised yet but is expected to be in the order of £80 – £100. This will be in addition to the cost of the scan

This person is being a little economical with the truth. She has not cut & pasted this sentence onto her email attachment as she says, she has taken it from within the notes, added it at the end, and highlighted it by writing it in capital letters

The scheme cost is not finalised yet but is expected to cost between £80 – £100.
THIS WILL BE IN ADDITION TO THE COST OF THE SCAN.

No bias, or attempt to influence there then?

One promising development is that Mark Marshall, who was recently removed without any explanation from the breeders' forum, has offered to take over her health representative position and accompany her to the February meeting.

There can be no doubt that this will be an enormous relief to her as she has stated so many times.....

"I did not want to be the Health Rep for my Club it's just a job I have to do because no-one else wants it either"


MINNIE and JEMIMA HARRISON'S BLOG SPOT.

I am trying to understand what some Cavalier Breeders have against the Proposed BVA/KC MRI Scanning Scheme.

1

Is it because they will have to give a wee bit more Money ?

2

Is it because the Results of the Scans will be Known?

3

Do they not believe that SM is a Problem in our Cavalier Breed?

I just cannot make Head nor Tail of their Objections.

Could some-body please Help Me?

What is the Reason for all the Vindictiveness being Aired at the Moment by some Cavalier Breeders ,surely if they had the Well Being of the Cavaliers as their Priority ,they would want this Scheme to be Implemented.

Finally though can I mention, why should such an Important Decision be only allowed for CKCS CLUB MEMBERS to have their say , I would think that there will be more Owners of Cavaliers who are not Members of any CKCS CLUB but are so involved with Cavaliers with SM.

Bet

Bet
8th January 2011, 10:40 AM
MINNIE and JEMIMA HARRISON'S BLOG SPOT.

I am trying to understand what some Cavalier Breeders have against the Proposed BVA/KC MRI Scanning Scheme.

1

Is it because they will have to give a wee bit more Money ?

2

Is it because the Results of the Scans will be Known?

3

Do they not believe that SM is a Problem in our Cavalier Breed?

I just cannot make Head nor Tail of their Objections.

Could some-body please Help Me?

What is the Reason for all the Vindictiveness being Aired at the Moment by some Cavalier Breeders ,surely if they had the Well Being of the Cavaliers as their Priority ,they would want this Scheme to be Implemented.

Finally though can I mention, why should such an Important Decision be only allowed for CKCS CLUB MEMBERS to have their say , I would think that there will be more Owners of Cavaliers who are not Members of any CKCS CLUB but are so involved with Cavaliers with SM.

Bet


MINNIE and JEMIMA HARRISON'S BLOG SPOT

This has just appeared on the CKCS CLUB WEB SITE.

"All Cavalier Clubs to Meet With the KENNEL CLUB To Discuss The CM/SM Scheme And Publication of Results --3rd February 2011.

Following the Presentation on CM/SM to the Cavalier Club Members on 7-10-2010,the Kennel Club took note of concerns by those Present ,IN PARTICULAR the PUBLICATION of RESULTS.Various Cavalier Clubs made their views known to the Kennel Club .The CKCS CLUB Committee were indidiually asked by their Health Representative ,Maggie Ford, ,as to whether they wished to Support the Results of the Scheme being Published and the MAJORITY of the CAVALIER CLUB COMMITTEE GAVE THEIR SUPPORT .

The Kennel Club subsequesently requested a Meeting of All Clubs to look at how those Results are Published and a LIASON MEETING has been called for £rd February .An Officer from each Club should be Present ,hopefully with their Health Representative .

The CKCS CLUB was asked to arrange this Meeting .

Following the Discussion with the Kennel Club ,the General Liason Meeting will take Place.

So has all the Bickering been about some Cavalier Breeders trying to make the MRI Results not being made Public,what is the Difference between the MRI Results not being made Available to the Public and the MVD Results are.

What are they wanting to cover up?

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9th January 2011, 11:56 AM
MINNIE and JEMIMA HARRISON'S BLOG SPOT

This has just appeared on the CKCS CLUB WEB SITE.

"All Cavalier Clubs to Meet With the KENNEL CLUB To Discuss The CM/SM Scheme And Publication of Results --3rd February 2011.

Following the Presentation on CM/SM to the Cavalier Club Members on 7-10-2010,the Kennel Club took note of concerns by those Present ,IN PARTICULAR the PUBLICATION of RESULTS.Various Cavalier Clubs made their views known to the Kennel Club .The CKCS CLUB Committee were indidiually asked by their Health Representative ,Maggie Ford, ,as to whether they wished to Support the Results of the Scheme being Published and the MAJORITY of the CAVALIER CLUB COMMITTEE GAVE THEIR SUPPORT .

The Kennel Club subsequesently requested a Meeting of All Clubs to look at how those Results are Published and a LIASON MEETING has been called for £rd February .An Officer from each Club should be Present ,hopefully with their Health Representative .

The CKCS CLUB was asked to arrange this Meeting .

Following the Discussion with the Kennel Club ,the General Liason Meeting will take Place.

So has all the Bickering been about some Cavalier Breeders trying to make the MRI Results not being made Public,what is the Difference between the MRI Results not being made Available to the Public and the MVD Results are.

What are they wanting to cover up?

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MINNIE and JEMIMA HARRISON'S BLOG SPOT.

I do wonder if the Lovers of Cavaliers really do understand what we are up against.

That some Cavalier Breeders will try any means to find Excuses for not Helping the Suffering of Cavalier Breed from SM and MVD.

They have a Vicious Go at Neurologists ,Margaret ,or any-body else who is getting their way about the telling the Truth about the SM and MVD Problem in The Breed.

Will they only be Happy when they have no-body to Make their Vitriolic Attacks Against , that the Researchers and every-body else has Walked away in Disgust and the Cavalier Breed is gone for-ever.

No they are not Puppy Farmers or BYB's .but Many who are following what is going on at the Moment, CKCS CLUB MEMBERS.

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