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Brian M
1st February 2011, 03:38 PM
Hi

Dawn has just phone me at work ,my little Lily has over the last hour started vomiting up froth ,its happened about six times with the last few being a bit pinky .Vets of course ASAP but any ideas ,she has not eaten anything unusual Dawn is aware of and is behaving absolutely normally for Lily .:(

meljoy
1st February 2011, 03:47 PM
Leo vomited up bright red froth once....turned out he'd eaten a lipstick:bang:

I hope Lily's is as simple as this. Please keep us informed and good luck. Fingers crossed it's nothing serious:xfngr:

Karlin
1st February 2011, 04:10 PM
I don't think we can offer many ideas as you need to see what a vet says. The pinkness indicates she is bringing up some blood most likely in the vomit so yes, this is urgent for the vets.

Karlin
1st February 2011, 04:42 PM
One dog health site says pink froth often comes from the lungs and indicates some blood coming from the lungs and hence a lung infection or problem of some sort. She should be checked for lungworm perhaps?

ByFloSin
1st February 2011, 06:24 PM
I have no idea what this could be Brian but please let us know what the vet says. I will be waiting anxiously.:blabla:

nicola
1st February 2011, 07:34 PM
Hope shes ok Brian. I know you will be beside yourself!

Tania
1st February 2011, 07:37 PM
:xfngr:Fingers crossed it is not serious....

nicola
1st February 2011, 08:42 PM
Hope shes ok....

Brian M
1st February 2011, 09:21 PM
Hi
Just back from L/pool though Lily stayed home with Dawn and just slept .The vet gave her a once over checked her eyes ,ears and commented her gums are still nice and pink felt around her body and then commented "That over the last couple of weeks the surgery has had a huge amount in with viral infections that gives them vomiting sickness and diarrhoe and that rest with no tea tonight, scrambled egg in the morning and the old favorite chicken and rice for three days and to watch her closely and any doubt take her back tomorrow."He also gave her two injections in her back leg one an anti sickness and other an anti bitotic and of course keep a close eye on the other three which seems a bit impossible ,I will clean and seperate all food bowels and they all have their own tooth brush so its in the lap of the gods as to what happens .Oh the vet made absolutely no comment about the pinky colour in her vomit .:confused:
So thankfully its nothing too serious that I havent managed before and just fingers crossed they dont all suffer but we shall see ,my Dawn is at home permanently so she can watch them and I can pop out of work when I want if needed and thats only 10 mins away.
One question pls for scarmbled eggs for her tomorrow morning shall I use one egg or two ,oh and Lily sleeps in our bedroom at night so I can watch her all the time .
And at bedroom I shall follow her around the garden with a torch to examine any deposited poops:)
What would you do without kids to keep you on your toes ,shes right uptight by me fast asleep poor wee girl.
Thank you all ladies for your concern and advice and if we back tomorrow Karlin I shall certainly ask re lungworm

nicola
1st February 2011, 09:26 PM
Glad it doesn't seem too serious anyway Brian!! When I die, I want to come back as a 'flower cav' to be spoiled and pampered :luv:

Brian M
1st February 2011, 09:29 PM
Hi Nicola

And thanks ,I do as well.:)

Nicki
1st February 2011, 09:48 PM
One medium egg will be plenty Brian.


Glad she is ok and doesn't sound like anything too serious - hope she will be much better tomorrow.



****IF ANYONE HAS THIS OCCUR AND THEIR DOG IS ON METACAM OR OTHER MEDICATION, THEN THIS CAN INDICATE A MORE SERIOUS PROBLEM AND NEEDS URGENT VETERINARY ATTENTION****

Margaret C
1st February 2011, 10:40 PM
Hopefully just one of those episodes that seem designed to keep you on your toes.

I would not get too worried about a little bit of white or yellow froth but a pink tinge does probably need checking out.

Let us know how she is tomorrow.

Lani
1st February 2011, 11:21 PM
Glad it appears to be nothing serious. Hope the vomiting has stopped for good and no more vet visits required for a while. :)

Karlin
1st February 2011, 11:43 PM
Yes it is the pink colour that would worry me -- white and yellow is pretty common and generally not a worry if it is occasional rather than a regular issue.

I had a google around and actually several vet sites say pink froth needs to be checked and is unlikely to be caused by stomach bleeding or vomit and generally indicates bleeding in the respiratory tract. I've never had pink vomit of this sort or heard of anyone with it, so it does seem unusual.

For example, this is one vet replying to the same symptoms of pink frothy vomit:


If there is bleeding into the stomach of a dog, the vomitus can be mucusy or frothy, but the blood is often partially digested by the stomach acid and ends up looking like coffee grounds - grainy and very dark.

Pink froth suggests perhaps the bleeding is coming from the respiratory tract. Perhaps a small lung bleed, or excess fluid in the lung.

I'd advise you to get her checked by your vet as soon as you are able, as blood coming from any body opening is potentially serious.

All the best

Rosie


Dog Questions - my dog is throwing up pink foam - JustAnswer http://www.justanswer.com/pet-dog/1eqin-dog-throwing-pink-foam.html#ixzz1Ckk4USDk

From a pet health site:


Pink, frothy “vomit”

If the vomited material is pink, frothy fluid, it may actually have been coughed up from the lungs rather than vomited from the stomach. Frothy lung material can be white, pink (tinged with fresh blood) or brown (tinged with old blood). It will not be acidic. Pets with congestive heart failure, lung cancer, and some lung infections may cough up frothy material.

from http://www.pethealth101.com/gastro_intestinal/vomit.shtml

Probably it's nothing serious but the vet has treated this as a stomach upset when other experts seem to indicate this is more likely to be a respiratory issue of some sort.

waldor
2nd February 2011, 01:41 AM
I agree, that just one egg will be sufficient. You don't want to overload her upset stomach with too much. Perhaps another egg at mid-day, if she seems perky. She won't die of starvation with one egg, though. I always prefer to err on the conservative end of things.

I'm so glad you took her to the vet and she seems okay. I hope she has a speedy recovery. What a scare for you.

Brian M
2nd February 2011, 08:38 AM
Hello

And Good Morning .Lily sleeps in her own crate in our bedroom and there was not a murmur from her last night ,no coughing ,wretching or sickness .This morning she seemed as bright as a button which is her normal self and had her one scrambled egg for breakfast , though venturing outside to do my early morning pick ups I found a couple of pools of dark chocolate which I presume is her infection or reaction to her injections and later I have to pop over the road to get some chicken / turkey to go with her rice tonight .
What is the best chicken or turkey in these situations or no difference .Thanks for all your kind comments and guidance.

Tania
2nd February 2011, 10:14 AM
Leo vomited up bright red froth once....turned out he'd eaten a lipstick:bang:



I was thinking about this Brian and was wondering what shade you wear?

Hope she is ok :-D

Brian M
2nd February 2011, 10:29 AM
Hello T

You are aware of my everlasting love affair :( with Everton ,so Blue is the colour .

sins
2nd February 2011, 10:36 AM
Maybe Toffee colour then??:rolleyes:
Glad her Majesty is feeling brighter today,It's so stressful when they're off form.
Sins

meljoy
2nd February 2011, 10:42 AM
Good to hear Lily seems ok. Hopefully thats the last you'll see of it.
Mel

Kate H
2nd February 2011, 10:57 AM
Could Lily's interesting colour simply be something she's picked up and eaten (and then had the sense to get rid of)? I knew someone who freaked out at her dog's dark red stools, that looked just like blood - turned out to be beetroot that the dog had dug up from the vegetable patch! Lost any red biros or crayons? Or socks with red dye? There's so many colorants in things these days...

Kate, Oliver and Aled

Nicki
2nd February 2011, 03:22 PM
Yes it is the pink colour that would worry me -- white and yellow is pretty common and generally not a worry if it is occasional rather than a regular issue.

I had a google around and actually several vet sites say pink froth needs to be checked and is unlikely to be caused by stomach bleeding or vomit and generally indicates bleeding in the respiratory tract. I've never had pink vomit of this sort or heard of anyone with it, so it does seem unusual.

For example, this is one vet replying to the same symptoms of pink frothy vomit:



From a pet health site:



from http://www.pethealth101.com/gastro_intestinal/vomit.shtml

Probably it's nothing serious but the vet has treated this as a stomach upset when other experts seem to indicate this is more likely to be a respiratory issue of some sort.



This is quite concerning Karlin - I would be keeping a very close eye on Lily if she was my dog.

These are the symptoms of Lungworm:

http://www.lungworm.co.uk/scripts/pages/en/has_my_dog_got_lungworm/index.php




When Peaches had a bad reaction to Metacam she vomited up pink froth, her intestinal lining was breaking down.

However I agree that normally the stomach acid would reduce fresh blood to coffee grounds appearance, as it would be partially digested.



The dark chocolate pools concern me :(

This website has photos of diarrhoea :grnyuk:

http://www.provet.co.uk/health/signs/diarrhoea.htm

It is helpful for giving descriptions to the vet :thmbsup:


See what she produces tonight -

Is there any really distinctive odour to the poo [beyond the normal! - does it smell like tomatoes or anything?]

Obviously if you are feeding chicken and rice, it's going to be light coloured...is the rice well digested or can you see grains?

Charlifarley
2nd February 2011, 06:06 PM
When Peaches had a bad reaction to Metacam she vomited up pink froth, her intestinal lining was breaking down.

However I agree that normally the stomach acid would reduce fresh blood to coffee grounds appearance, as it would be partially digested.
The dark chocolate pools concern me :(

This website has photos of diarrhoea :grnyuk:

http://www.provet.co.uk/health/signs/diarrhoea.htm

It is helpful for giving descriptions to the vet :thmbsup:


See what she produces tonight -

Is there any really distinctive odour to the poo [beyond the normal! - does it smell like tomatoes or anything?]

Obviously if you are feeding chicken and rice, it's going to be light coloured...is the rice well digested or can you see grains?

Why did I decide to read this in the middle of getting dinner ready - :yuk:

Hope Lily is ok now.

ByFloSin
2nd February 2011, 06:21 PM
So glad that Lily seemed fine this morning Brian. Well done to Dawn for being so quick off the mark.

I am concerned about what others have suggested regarding Lungworm though. If Lily was mine I would be watching her carefully.

tupup
2nd February 2011, 08:03 PM
Im so glad little Lily seems to be on the mend today Bri:) but like has been said already (& i know you will!)keep a real close eye to any not right colours from either end & i sincerely hope there are no more of them

Tania
2nd February 2011, 10:36 PM
Brian, I was just thinking. Not long ago you posted about some new food you have purchased. I am wondering if this might have anything to do with it....just a thought that is all. :thmbsup:

nicola
3rd February 2011, 12:01 AM
Brian, I was just thinking. Not long ago you posted about some new food you have purchased. I am wondering if this might have anything to do with it....just a thought that is all. :thmbsup:

That was my initial thought too when I read the first post from Brian. Perhaps its a possibility.

Brian M
3rd February 2011, 09:24 AM
Hello Ladies

Lily says to thank you all for your best wishes and concern .And Dad says all yesterday she seemed perfectly normal and thankfully no more liquid poohs but then she only had her first turkey and rice meal last night .With your advice regarding possible lungworm infection I phoned the vets and asked the question and was told that he had considered lungworm but dismissed it as he thought she wasn't showing sufficient symptoms and that the pinkish color in her froth was no more than a slight bloody discharge probably caused through her over retching .She has had no more attempts at vomiting and on early morning pick ups today there was no sign of anything unusual from anybody though I shall keep a beady eye on them all for any cross infection and keep Lily on her turkey and rice food till at least Sat/Sun .
Tania the new meat variety is in the freezer still unused as I normally try and keep about six weeks supply of meat/chicken on stock and then just rotate supplies on a date basis ,so as of now I am feeding meat that I bought back end of November ,I also keep five packs of chicken wings in and feed one pack a week and then replace that as soon as used .So in case of nuclear attack the girls have six weeks supply of food in and I have two boxes of cornflakes. :)As Lily sleeps in our room she was sitting on my chest as normal at 6.00 am this morning attempting to lick the end of my nose ,which I declined .

nicola
3rd February 2011, 10:04 AM
Thats all great to hear Brian. so glad the beautiful Lily is back to normal!

jasperpaw
3rd February 2011, 10:20 AM
Great to hear that Lily is back to normal, it`s a real worry when they are poorly.

waldor
3rd February 2011, 01:17 PM
So in case of nuclear attack the girls have six weeks supply of food in and I have two boxes of cornflakes. :)

Which is why most of us would like, if there is such a thing as reincarnation, to come back as one of your dogs. :smile:

Sandrac
3rd February 2011, 03:21 PM
Glad Lily is OK - dont they just love to keep us on our toes.:)

Wagtails
3rd February 2011, 06:23 PM
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