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robbieswan
30th May 2011, 07:46 AM
Charlie, Tess's friend who lives a few doors down from us has been totally shaved ! An uncle of the family claimed to be a dog groomer, but has mutilated this dog beyond belief. He has shaved even the scraggy hair underneath his legs !. The owners ar distraught. Poor Charlie is shivering all the time and seems to has sprained his back right leg. I am guessing where he put up a fight..I am totally appauled at this. Mum to Charlie keeps crying all the time. Charlie is not allowed out during the day, as the owners are so ashamed...awful...just awful..I will try and get a pic for you today. This lovely Black & Tan Cavalier looks like one of those Mexican fashion dogs !

Jasper and Holly
30th May 2011, 08:06 AM
Aww poor Charlie. It is Summer over there and he will grow his coat back! But still it's not nice for Charlie or his owners. I used to clip my last dog because I used to worry about the heat. I decided I wasn't going to do these two and keep their coats. As I was told it is a natural air-condition believe it or not.

Karlin
30th May 2011, 09:18 AM
It won't make them feel any better but this is a very common occurence with (so called!!) *professionals* as well. Go thru the archives and there are so many posts from people who have had this happen at groomers! It is extraordinary how few groomers know how to groom a cavalier -- most -- and I do mean MOST -- shave them so they look like fat jack russells without ever discussing this with owners that rightly end up very distraught and furious. :(

I can understand how a groomer in a country that has few cavaliers, like the US, *might* not know how to do a cavalier (which is supposed to be no trimming whatsoever except undersides of feet and anything else should be carefully cleared with the owner in advance!!!), but I cannot see how anyone running a salon an calling themselves a professional groomer in the UK or Ireland could possibly be this stupid and uneducated about the single most popular toy breed in those countries where there are thousands and thousands of cavaliers.

Fortunately the coat will gradually grow back in.

If an actual salon did this I would be threatening small claims court and would at least want a full refund and would give them a piece of my mind about their total lack of professionalism.

On the sore leg -- I think they should check this with a vet -- it is probably unlikely to have happened during grooming. If this is a young dog it could be luxating patella but there are also many other things that should be looked into if it doesn't immediately go away.

PS If he's is shivering I'd put Charlie into a dog t-shirt and/or doggie sweaters til he has some hair again!

GreenDenmark
30th May 2011, 09:20 AM
Ohhh poor Charlie :cry*ing:

I can't still believe it was a family member who have shaved him. Or it maybe an ex. family member now ?

James
30th May 2011, 09:24 AM
As he got older, come summer I used to get my old dog Toby (the barking dog my avatar) a close cut and it worked wonders brightening him up, it brought a spring into his step, you could really see the difference and I had no reservations about his comfort verses his appearance.
I could see where in bright sunshine longer hair may protect but in the UK how often do we get that.
May I add Toby was neutered and had a very thick woolly coat, Ben who I have now is intact and has a thinner silky coat, I decided last year to only trim his feathering but still have to make the decision this year.

robbieswan
30th May 2011, 10:52 AM
Any ideas how long the coat will take to grow back?

murphy's mum
30th May 2011, 11:01 AM
Oh poor wee thing.

A word of warning after Murphy was shaved by a so called "professional", his coat changed forever. It's now very fluffy and wavy, it knots with the wind blowing through it, or at least that's what it feels like, it tangles so easily now.

I can't remember how long it took to grow back I'm afraid, he had no tail or leg feathers god love him, luckily it was summer at the time:cool:

We now get him groomed very regularly, because if his coat gets too long he needs the tangles brushed out after every walk, which he hates. He's actually in at the groomers now with his sis, they are getting a haircut in time for their holidays next month:D

robbieswan
30th May 2011, 11:45 AM
The owners of Charlie have agreed for me to take some pics in an hour or so.

Brian M
30th May 2011, 12:43 PM
Hi Robbie

Its horrible when this happens and unfortunately a lot of us have suffered .Agree what Karlin said keep him warm and be careful next time ,it took me ages to find my groomers and she is not cheap but she is good .Charlie should be back to normal in 3/4 months and at least its happened now and not in Dec when we had minus 10 .

goda
30th May 2011, 04:07 PM
Charlie, Tess's friend who lives a few doors down from us has been totally shaved ! An uncle of the family claimed to be a dog groomer, but has mutilated this dog beyond belief. He has shaved even the scraggy hair underneath his legs !. The owners ar distraught. Poor Charlie is shivering all the time and seems to has sprained his back right leg. I am guessing where he put up a fight..I am totally appauled at this. Mum to Charlie keeps crying all the time. Charlie is not allowed out during the day, as the owners are so ashamed...awful...just awful..I will try and get a pic for you today. This lovely Black & Tan Cavalier looks like one of those Mexican fashion dogs !

Oh no! Luka and Altas get haircuts, but they aren't "shaved". The hair will grow back! I cut their hair myself though because I don't trust other people.

Love my Cavaliers
30th May 2011, 05:12 PM
None of my dogs has ever been shaved, but when Riley had her decompression surgery for SM, they shaved her head and part of her ears. She looked like a half-shorn lamb. Her surgery was in the beginning of June and by August you couldnt see her bare scalp or her stitches anymore, so it does grow back pretty quickly - not to a full coat, but at least he'll look better by the end of the summer - and who knows, if it's a hot summer, maybe he'll feel cooler!

goda
30th May 2011, 05:43 PM
This is Luka with a haircut

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3529/5776442515_a7606a5ffe.jpg

I think he looks handsome. We don't keep our dogs hair long because we hike all the time and mud clumps are not fun for any of us. In the winter they have sweaters. They have never been distressed during hair cuts.

StillPooh
30th May 2011, 06:06 PM
This is Luka with a haircut

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3529/5776442515_a7606a5ffe.jpg

I think he looks handsome. We don't keep our dogs hair long because we hike all the time and mud clumps are not fun for any of us. In the winter they have sweaters. They have never been distressed during hair cuts.
We do the same with Clancy. He's getting his summer shave on Wednesday. :thmbsup:

Charlifarley
30th May 2011, 07:47 PM
I suppose really, it's boils down to what you and the dog is used to :p
Personally I prefer a longer coat, but the boys can get a bit smelly, especially in the tummy area, if you know what I mean!

goda
30th May 2011, 09:06 PM
I suppose really, it's boils down to what you and the dog is used to :p
Personally I prefer a longer coat, but the boys can get a bit smelly, especially in the tummy area, if you know what I mean!

True and to be fair I cut their hair myself.

robbieswan
30th May 2011, 09:27 PM
The owners of Charlie were too embarrased to bring him round to have his picture taken..They are distraught !

goda
30th May 2011, 10:13 PM
The owners of Charlie were too embarrased to bring him round to have his picture taken..They are distraught !

Oh for the love of I don't know what, it's hair it grows back! It's not the end of the world. I understand some shock but not leaving the house is just insanity.

Kate H
30th May 2011, 10:52 PM
Personally, I think a really shaved Cavalier looks more like some sort of terrier - not like a Cavalier at all. But each to their own taste! :)

Kate, Oliver and Aled (who also hike in the countryside, but perhaps Seattle is muddier than England!)

mishy
30th May 2011, 11:06 PM
When Bubbles came into rescue she had to be completely shaved and I think someone on the forum described her as looking like a little "potbelly pig"! She wore a coat to keep her warm and her fur grew back after a few weeks. I do hope Charlie's leg is ok and I realise they are in shock but surely keeping him inside is a little bit OTT? Surely we all love our dogs no matter what they look like.

Nalu
31st May 2011, 04:04 AM
Luca is very striking! Thank you for sharing your photo. I've been so curious about the results of a shaved grooming. My husband would be hard to convince, but deer ticks are impossible to spot on a tri.

denali
31st May 2011, 08:42 AM
Hi Nalu, i previously owned a tri. Though i loved the cavvies long coat i was only able to allow him to have a long coat in the winter as he alsways got a rash in the summer that for his comfort and health required him to be shaved.
It always grew back EXACTLY the same texture and got long pretty quickly.
After the groomer trimmed his ears square and shaved his tail we decided to do it ourselves and we NEVER touched his tail or his ears,
sometimes we would leave his feathers and 'pyjamas'( or his skirt) longer as well.

Here is a picture of Anzac shaved:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2016/5768872127_32e6464327.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62961286@N07/5768872127/)
haircut (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62961286@N07/5768872127/) by KokodaTheCav (http://www.flickr.com/people/62961286@N07/), on Flickr

meljoy
31st May 2011, 11:41 AM
Your neighbours maybe upset at the moment but try and remind them it is just a hair cut and WILL grow back.
We had this with Leo a few years ago, he almost had a buzz cut on top of his head....we thought he looked like a marine:yikes
There are many more tragic things that can happen to our beloved cavs, as upset as they may feel encourage them to get things in to perspective.
Im sure Charlie is just as beautiful

GraciesMom
31st May 2011, 12:38 PM
They are sooooo cute too! Not sure you can make a Cavvie anything less than precious! :-D I hope your neighbors get over this because Charlie will pick up on their anxiety and make it worse than it should be. They are sensitive and pick up on our feelings!

murphy's mum
31st May 2011, 01:24 PM
I can't imagine not leaving the house with my pair if they had a bad haircut, Murphy would bug me silly. It's bad enough if our evening routine is disrupted by something, he just sits and stares at me, and he starts pawing me if I don't take the hint.

Mine had their trip to the groomers yesterday in preparation for our holiday, they are shorter than normal, but it's what I asked for. I always get the tails and ears tidied, but this time I asked for a little more off Murphy's ears. He drags half the forest back in his:lol:. Misty's are now short all the time due to her ear problems, it took a little getting used to but she looks like a puppy again.
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r215/icklp360/Murphy315.jpg
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r215/icklp360/Misty315.jpg

At the end of the day it shouldn't worry them what their dog "looks" like, as long as its happy and healthy that's all that matters.

goda
31st May 2011, 03:43 PM
I can't imagine not leaving the house with my pair if they had a bad haircut, Murphy would bug me silly. It's bad enough if our evening routine is disrupted by something, he just sits and stares at me, and he starts pawing me if I don't take the hint.

Mine had their trip to the groomers yesterday in preparation for our holiday, they are shorter than normal, but it's what I asked for. I always get the tails and ears tidied, but this time I asked for a little more off Murphy's ears. He drags half the forest back in his:lol:. Misty's are now short all the time due to her ear problems, it took a little getting used to but she looks like a puppy again.
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r215/icklp360/Murphy315.jpg
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r215/icklp360/Misty315.jpg

At the end of the day it shouldn't worry them what their dog "looks" like, as long as its happy and healthy that's all that matters.

Mine do the staring and pawing too! It get's very intense some times. Especially when they do it for a few minutes.

Nalu
31st May 2011, 04:13 PM
Nice work on the shave-grooming!!! How do you do it and is it tricky getting the cooperation you need?

goda
31st May 2011, 05:00 PM
Nice work on the shave-grooming!!! How do you do it and is it tricky getting the cooperation you need?

I usually do it outside in the summer, with those buzzy razor things for men, I don't know what you call them, I use the 1/4 inch on Luka and the 1/2 inch on Atlas because he's young and has no insulating fat.

At first they are annoyed but Luka almost always falls asleep, I do the backs first the then lay them on their tummies against my chest. The Armpits can get tricky but those can be trimmed with scissors.

Atlas just gets bored and wants to play. I think it's better and way cheaper than a groomer because they know you and it's a safe environment. I leave the legs for last usually and I like to leave their paw hair kind of long.

I get covered in hair but it's nothing a vacuum and shower can't fix. It seems easy to me, takes maybe an hour. I trim the outside of the ears by hand, and the bulks of them with the razor. They are so smooth afterwards and most importantly clump free!