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gamefanz
4th June 2011, 05:28 PM
I thought I would share our puppy set up for when Toby comes home. There is the kitchen set up that gives him access to the dog door and give us access to our kitchen to cook.
Also a few months ago we bought an automatic kong dispenser for when we got a new dog, we could leave the house and it will dispense kongs every hr so he is not bored. Of course that will wait until we can trust him to be outside his kennel when we are not home. It was not cheap because the item was discontinued a long time agao. I found it on Amazon but I see that it is now sold out. Thank goodness we got it when we did.
There is also a picture of his bedroom set up. We don't want him on the bed so he gets his own bed.
His bowls will be in the kitchen area near the dog door until we go somewhere then his water bowl will be in his kennel. There will be a cushion inside the kennel once we get him.

http://share.shutterfly.com/share/received/welcome.sfly?fid=511e9a70aa808f08&sid=0AaOGTZozZs2LEng
What do you think? Anything missing?
Becky

gamefanz
4th June 2011, 05:38 PM
I forgot to explain there will be wall brackets and zip ties holding the play pens in place. So it will not fall down if he pushes it.

Becky




I thought I would share our puppy set up for when Toby comes home. There is the kitchen set up that gives him access to the dog door and give us access to our kitchen to cook.
Also a few months ago we bought an automatic kong dispenser for when we got a new dog, we could leave the house and it will dispense kongs every hr so he is not bored. Of course that will wait until we can trust him to be outside his kennel when we are not home. It was not cheap because the item was discontinued a long time agao. I found it on Amazon but I see that it is now sold out. Thank goodness we got it when we did.
There is also a picture of his bedroom set up. We don't want him on the bed so he gets his own bed.
His bowls will be in the kitchen area near the dog door until we go somewhere then his water bowl will be in his kennel. There will be a cushion inside the kennel once we get him.

http://share.shutterfly.com/share/received/welcome.sfly?fid=511e9a70aa808f08&sid=0AaOGTZozZs2LEng
What do you think? Anything missing?
Becky

gamefanz
4th June 2011, 05:43 PM
If you cannot view it, try this link.
http://share.shutterfly.com/share/received/welcome.sfly?fid=d8300c5da6210768&sid=0AaOGTZozZs2LEng

StillPooh
4th June 2011, 05:45 PM
Be careful about giving him unsupervised access to the yard when he first comes home. I was shocked by how many places Oliver found to escape, and that was while we were watching him!

gamefanz
4th June 2011, 05:53 PM
Thank you. We have an 8ft wood fence and we reenforced that with chicken wire at the bottom that goes into the ground then covered again with dirt. This way if he digs he will only get the chicken wire. The only concern at this point is the gate. we will have to see what he does with that. If he tries to get under it we will have to put chicken wire on the bottom of the gate and hope we can still open it.
Becky



Be careful about giving him unsupervised access to the yard when he first comes home. I was shocked by how many places Oliver found to escape, and that was while we were watching him!

StillPooh
4th June 2011, 07:45 PM
Oliver has been doing a bang-up job of locating all the bunny bolt holes in our yard. I think we have now blocked off all of them, but I don't trust him not to discover some we missed. I make him wear a collar with ID now, just in case! We do plan to microchip him also. But if he got out, we are right next to a busy high speed road. :yikes

Habba
4th June 2011, 08:01 PM
This looks good Becky :) I am starting to think about how to organize the home when we get our little one, it is good to see what others are doing.

Habba

gamefanz
4th June 2011, 08:02 PM
LOL I'm sure the holes are just too much to resist :lol: Dang bunnies:lol: So far we do not have any critters making holes. We have tons of birds though. I only feed the hummingbirds. I just hope he does not catch my hummers.
Our breeder microchips before we get him and we just transfer into our name. But collars are always good.
Just not sure if we are missing anything to do before he gets here. I mean we haven't had a puppy for so many years. I feel like I am forgetting something.
Becky

gamefanz
4th June 2011, 08:03 PM
Thank you Habba. Its not the perfect set up but the best we can do so dog and humans can utilize the same space. I hope you can configure your home so everyone is happy.
Becky



This looks good Becky :) I am starting to think about how to organize the home when we get our little one, it is good to see what others are doing.

Habba

StillPooh
4th June 2011, 08:11 PM
We have an 8ft wood fence and we reenforced that with chicken wire at the bottom that goes into the ground then covered again with dirt. This way if he digs he will only get the chicken wire. The only concern at this point is the gate. we will have to see what he does with that. If he tries to get under it we will have to put chicken wire on the bottom of the gate and hope we can still open it.

Be sure to lock your gate(s), so no one can open them and let your baby out, or (God forbid) take him.

gamefanz
4th June 2011, 08:18 PM
Very good idea. Thank you!

Becky


Be sure to lock your gate(s), so no one can open them and let your baby out, or (God forbid) take him.

Karlin
4th June 2011, 08:42 PM
You must be getting excited now! Your puppy is almost home. :)

Two honest comments in response to your post: first, kong dispensers are quite popular and are a nice option... BUT... this is a small dog breed and cannot be given lots and lots of stuffed kongs daily, even small kongs. A single medium kong would contain enough food for an entire day for many adult cavaliers! :lol: I'd only get very small kongs, and pack them with something that will provide few calories, such as a few small bits of kibble and the rest, mashed banana. You can freeze them to make them last longer. If you opt to use this regularly, do not feed him -- you will want to split his entire daily ration of food between the kongs perhaps, and pack banana around them, and release them only every 4 hours or so at mealtimes. Otherwise you will end up with an enormously fat cavalier if the dog is being given stuffed kongs every few hours, in addition to his meals. You will ned some option like this for feeding if no one is home a lot of the time -- young puppies need to be fed 4 times daily and should never be left with a day of food left on the floor to free feed (free feeding is generally a bad idea with this breed, which is very prone to becoming overweight). The more time you can be there during the day with your puppy (and adult) the better -- they are not a great breed to leave alone all day and puppies need a lot of input from their people for socialising, behaviour and housetraining. It can take forever to housetrain a puppy if people work all day.

The second point: I would never give a cavalier (adult or puppy, but especially *never* a puppy) unsupervised access outside, especially not any ability to be outside when no one is at home. It is inviting disaster -- puppies can get into so many things including poisons like certain plants and weeks or snail bait etc, they can dig their way out and squeeze through tiny spaces, and they are a number one target of thieves, especially young, unneutered dogs. Barking can cause neighbours to report the dog which could see the dog impounded -- and see this post on all the reasons why dogs for all kinds of care and welfare and happiness reasons, just should not be left alone at home, outside: http://www.cavaliertalk.com/forums/showthread.php?31670-Yard-outdoor-dogs-no-thanks-please

And this: http://lizcatalano.wordpress.com/2009/08/24/the-great-outdoors/

This is an indoor breed. Puppies lack the ability to keep themselves warm and even adults only have a single layer coat -- they lack the warm undercoat that keeps many breeds warm, or the build to keep warm. So they definitely are not a breed to be put outside in winter or in-between seasons. A lot of good breeders will not home where the dogs will be left with unsupervised outdoor access -- and this is a standard for breed rescue; there's no way any cavalier breed rescue would put a dog into a home where it would be left to go outside during the day when no one is home. It is just too risky and is considered poor animal welfare.

What to do, then? There are many options. You would be much better to have him in a puppy playpen (xpen) inside in a safe area like a kitchen, with an open crate inside, a toileting area, and his toys, fresh water etc.

If you haven't downloaded it i would recommend immediately getting the free copy of well known trainer Dr Ian Dunbar's After You Get Your Puppy. He has illustrations of good indoor setups and it is one of the best guides to raising and training a puppy:

http://www.dogstardaily.com/files/AFTER%20You%20Get%20Your%20Puppy.pdf

www.dogstardaily.com, the main Dunbar site, is full of great advice, videos, blogs etc. :)

gamefanz
4th June 2011, 08:52 PM
Thank you. I never thought of too much snacks in the kong. I don't work so it would only be in use when I go out shopping and such. Weekends would be the only worry. I like the frozen idea. I only bought puppy kongs, little teeth LOL
He will not be using the dog door unless I am home until I can trust him. I figure if my little pekingese could use it as an adult so can he. I mean my peke hated cats but still stayed in the yard. I do know they are not the same breed but I cannot imagine a grown dog cannot stay in a backyard that is reenforced to go to the bathroom and play. The only plants I have are on the table out back. I am a renter so I cannot do anything with the yard, sadly. Besides rocks (which I am concerned about)there really is nothing out there to destroy or eat besides grass.
Its hard to imagine that I can never trust this breed even in a fenced in backyard that is 8ft tall. Are they really that bad?
Adding I would NEVER force him to stay outside, that is why I have a dog door. I want him to have the freedom to choose when he goes in and out. I will put up with puppy training but I will not allow him use of my home when I am not here to pee in the kitchen. My Peke learned and so can he.

Becky

StillPooh
4th June 2011, 09:02 PM
Its hard to imagine that I can never trust this breed even in a fenced in backyard that is 8ft tall. Are they really that bad?
Adding I would NEVER force him to stay outside, that is why I have a dog door. I want him to have the freedom to choose when he goes in and out. I will put up with puppy training but I will not allow him use of my home when I am not here to pee in the kitchen. My Peke learned and so can he.I would totally trust Clancy (my adult) to go in and out through a dog door, and I did, when he was young. Since he developed epilepsy and a habit of murdering songbirds, not so much.

With a little baby, I would not. Just because of the risks of escape.

The rescue I got Dillon from insisted on fenced yards, but they encouraged dog doors. Most rescue dogs that come from mills are difficult if not impossible to housebreak, and dog doors are a huge help.

gamefanz
4th June 2011, 09:05 PM
Sorry if I sounded rude above. I do appreciate advice but please ask me questions before lecturing if you are not sure what I am doing.
Thank you
Becky

gamefanz
4th June 2011, 09:12 PM
Thank you. Yeah I wouldn't let him out alone when he is so small. Actually right now I am just hoping he can even get out the door with him being so small LOL
The dog door has always helped us with training our peke and it was so easy. We moved 7 times with him and always had a dog door. I won't get a dog if he cannot have access to one. We love this dog dog door invention.
Becky




I would totally trust Clancy (my adult) to go in and out through a dog door, and I did, when he was young. Since he developed epilepsy and a habit of murdering songbirds, not so much.

With a little baby, I would not. Just because of the risks of escape.

The rescue I got Dillon from insisted on fenced yards, but they encouraged dog doors. Most rescue dogs that come from mills are difficult if not impossible to housebreak, and dog doors are a huge help.

StillPooh
4th June 2011, 09:18 PM
The dog door has always helped us with training our peke and it was so easy. We moved 7 times with him and always had a dog door. I won't get a dog if he cannot have access to one. We love this dog dog door invention.
I miss having one so much! I paid a boatload of money for a dual paned sliding door one, like you have in your picture. But 2 of my cats learned to use it, and neither will stay in the yard. When we lived out in the countryside it wasn't a big deal. But now we're in a suburb with a busy road, and I am too afraid of them getting run over to install it here.

Also Clancy could seize and fall off the deck, or down the casement stairwell to the basement. :(

gamefanz
4th June 2011, 09:31 PM
I'm so sorry about your pup. I can't imagine what it must be like. Poor baby.
I was wondering about electrical outlets. should I use baby covers? My peke never bothered them but unsure of this breed.

Becky

Jasper and Holly
4th June 2011, 10:35 PM
I used a playpen that I could add bits on if I wanted to make it bigger which i did and a crate for sleeping. I didn't put a dog door in until they were about 12 months old. What you have there looks quite good. Like you I am home most of the day too. My place is fully tiled so any accidents were easy dealt with not that they had many anyway. The crate will be great for him when you go out shopping, once he gets used to it, they are safe and it gives you peace of mind. If you are anything like me you will worry anyway. Lol
My two don't use the crate now they have their own beds in our bedroom so I can hear them get up to go out. When I go out now they have access to outside by the dog door and it's all fully fenced no escape routes whatsoever. When I go out they are up on the sofa or chair snuggled up and are still there when I get back. The only thing they have chewed is the grass!
I always make sure every room is closed and that there is nothing lying around for them to get into. I don't think you power points will be a worry if they are not in use. I boxed in my power point that was being used by the computer as that was they only one exposed and I didn't want them to get access to the cables.
I think your only worry would be your gate? Don't you have an area at the back with no gate to worry about?
If you are home most of the time you will be keeping him entertained anyway and when you go out he will be in his crate so no worries.

goda
4th June 2011, 10:37 PM
I thought I would share our puppy set up for when Toby comes home. There is the kitchen set up that gives him access to the dog door and give us access to our kitchen to cook.
Also a few months ago we bought an automatic kong dispenser for when we got a new dog, we could leave the house and it will dispense kongs every hr so he is not bored. Of course that will wait until we can trust him to be outside his kennel when we are not home. It was not cheap because the item was discontinued a long time agao. I found it on Amazon but I see that it is now sold out. Thank goodness we got it when we did.
There is also a picture of his bedroom set up. We don't want him on the bed so he gets his own bed.
His bowls will be in the kitchen area near the dog door until we go somewhere then his water bowl will be in his kennel. There will be a cushion inside the kennel once we get him.

http://share.shutterfly.com/share/received/welcome.sfly?fid=511e9a70aa808f08&sid=0AaOGTZozZs2LEng
What do you think? Anything missing?
Becky

You had me at automatic kong dispenser

StillPooh
4th June 2011, 11:58 PM
I was wondering about electrical outlets. should I use baby covers? My peke never bothered them but unsure of this breed.Never had an issue with outlets, but I have had pups who chewed electrical cords. And my American Eskimo didn't even blink at the taste of bitter apple!

Blondiemonster
5th June 2011, 12:50 AM
Never had an issue with wires or elevtrical outlets either. Mine chewed up the coffeetable And the legs of my bed as a puppy :)

Pat
5th June 2011, 12:59 AM
One word - coyotes.

My four small dogs are not allowed outside unless a human is with them. Period. Of course it's more dangerous in the dark, but I won't let them out alone in the daytime either. I have a six foot wooden fence. Coyotes climb fences, and they are very smart and will observe a situation to figure out what is easy prey. You can put coyote roller bars on top of a fence but it's expensive and easier for me just to make sure the dogs are supervised outside. Just too much potential for danger. Before going out at night I turn on the floodlights and make a lot of noise. I've even put a "subfence" in my fenced back yard so the dogs can't go more than about 30 feet away from me at night. I also have a cat who is inside only so I couldn't use a dog door anyway. The coyotes are very bold - I see them often - and I'm in the suburbs of Atlanta for goodness sake. Small pets in the area frequently go missing.

I've also seen hawks swoop down to take a good look at my 7 and 8 lb shih tzu girls, so a small Cavalier puppy might be prey for them.

JMHO,

Pat

gamefanz
5th June 2011, 02:09 AM
Thank you everyone. I know it will take awhile before I can trust him alone but it sounds like once he grows a little I can let him roam. If the gate becomes an issue we can make an area that he can go to and not be near the gate.
As far as coyotes, I have not seen a single one in my area but that doesn't mean they are not there. We've lived here over a year and our peke was just fine. He had free rein over the house and yard. We have a bigger dog next door who sadly is an outdoor dog and he's never had an issue either. So hopefully we have so many thorny bushes behind our house that they will not be a bother.
Thank you for the advice on the outlets. I wasn't sure but I'm happy no one has had issues with them.
Goda I wish they still made these dispensers. It seems so cool! You don't want to know how much I paid for it LOL but we will have peace of mind if we are gone for a full afternoon. I know that Kong wants to build a new model but has not found what they are looking for yet. Maybe in the near future.
Becky

StillPooh
5th June 2011, 02:09 AM
One word - coyotes.Coyotes in Atlanta? :yikes

I don't have to worry about that in suburban Maryland. In Louisiana we had gators, but they were lousy at climbing fences. :wink:

GraciesMom
5th June 2011, 12:30 PM
Things like bird poop, dead/live insects, lizards and snails that puppies may decide to eat... and it can make them pretty sick. Gracie was in love with bird poop when she was younger and we had to keep her away from it. I do think as they get older you can trust them more, but I would not trust PEOPLE. Gracie is just toooooo cute... who would not want her???

gamefanz
5th June 2011, 12:33 PM
Hmmmmmmm good point. We have worms and some snails that make their way on the porch. I need to have my husband put out more snail stuff to get rid of them before Toby gets here. Ewwwwww I hate those things!
Becky