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Piper
17th July 2011, 07:32 PM
I've been researching dogs and breeders for the last 5 months and I finally made a decision. I love Cavaliers sooo much so I looked into breeders here. In the end I just couldn't find one in my area that did all the health testing and that I felt comfotable with. I adore Piper but he's likelyhood of having Sm is high and it is heart breaking to me.
So I decided to start looking at another breed I love which is the Cocker Spaniels. I found an American Cocker Spaniel breeder I was happy with and was on the wait list for next year litter. The only thing bothering me was that it was either a 8 hour drive to go get the puppy or she would have to be shipped. I really want to meet the parents before hand and have the breeder close enough to me to be able to see them when want or needed.

So on went my search.

Because I was also concerned about the health problems American Cocker`s can have I started looking at English Cockers. I found a breeder near me that does all the health testing and was very easy to talk to on the phone. So I have filled out her pupy questionnaire online and am now on the wait list for next year! I know it`s still a ways a way but Im so excited to be getting another puppy and friend for Piper and this time feel good in the fact that I`m doing in the right way with the right breeder!
:rah:

sunshinekisses
18th July 2011, 03:14 AM
Fun!! Cocker spaniels are nice dogs...I grew up with them, and brittanys. Funny though because my cavaliers are always mistaken for cockers.

BrooklynMom
18th July 2011, 04:20 AM
What great news!! I LOVE cocker's so much and vision myself adding one to my troop in this lifetime :)

Out of curiosity...what is the difference between an American Cocker and an English Cocker?

Piper
18th July 2011, 07:17 AM
What great news!! I LOVE cocker's so much and vision myself adding one to my troop in this lifetime :)

Out of curiosity...what is the difference between an American Cocker and an English Cocker?

English is a little bigger with a longer face. They have never been as popular as American for some reason. The breeder says that they are also more lay back then the american..

Ladybug
18th July 2011, 10:25 AM
I love American Cocker Spaniels! Fell in love with them ever since I saw Oprah's cutie blonde Cocker, Sadie.

http://tailsmagazines.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/oprah-and-sadie.jpg?w=350&h=263

Awww.

Karlin
18th July 2011, 12:04 PM
American cockers are also more 'extreme' in their looks -- very domed skull for example. I actually prefer the look of the English cocker. I think cockers are lovely dogs.

I had a little cocker as a small child too. Inbreeding over time seems to have produced temperament problems -- this isn't a breed that is any longer generally recommended as a family dog by any of the dog trainers I know as they can be a bit snappy with kids and in rescue we see a lot handed in to pounds and rescues for that reason so a good breeder is really important. It's a shame as so many of us probably grew up around this breed which was a common family dog in the 50s and 60s because of its gentleness.

Karlin
18th July 2011, 12:10 PM
Some pics from the IKC, though in the UK now, neither of these breeds looks like this anymore as it is illegal to dock breeds like cockers unless they are hunting lines. So they have a full tail -- they look gorgeous with a full tail to wag -- it is very much the same kind of lovely full tail as a cavalier.

English cocker:

http://www.akc.org/images/breeds/english_cocker_spaniel/lg_artwork.jpg

American:

http://www.akc.org/images/breeds/cocker_spaniel/lg_artwork.jpg

From www.ikc.org

(http://www.ikc.org)You can see an English cocker with full tail here:

http://www.animal-photography.com/image/AP-AGPBAX

BrooklynMom
18th July 2011, 12:16 PM
Huh...very interesting. Thanks for the info everyone. Do the American and the English cockers both have the temperament issue and can this be avoided by finding the right breeder...or is it pretty bread in by now?

Sorry for all the questions...I am learning :o and I love cockers!

Piper
18th July 2011, 02:53 PM
Some pics from the IKC, though in the UK now, neither of these breeds looks like this anymore as it is illegal to dock breeds like cockers unless they are hunting lines. So they have a full tail -- they look gorgeous with a full tail to wag -- it is very much the same kind of lovely full tail as a cavalier.

English cocker:

http://www.akc.org/images/breeds/english_cocker_spaniel/lg_artwork.jpg

American:

http://www.akc.org/images/breeds/cocker_spaniel/lg_artwork.jpg

From www.ikc.org

(http://www.ikc.org)You can see an English cocker with full tail here:

http://www.animal-photography.com/image/AP-AGPBAX

I guess the tail docking is not illegal in Canada because most people still do it seems.

Piper
18th July 2011, 03:01 PM
American cockers are also more 'extreme' in their looks -- very domed skull for example. I actually prefer the look of the English cocker. I think cockers are lovely dogs.

I had a little cocker as a small child too. Inbreeding over time seems to have produced temperament problems -- this isn't a breed that is any longer generally recommended as a family dog by any of the dog trainers I know as they can be a bit snappy with kids and in rescue we see a lot handed in to pounds and rescues for that reason so a good breeder is really important. It's a shame as so many of us probably grew up around this breed which was a common family dog in the 50s and 60s because of its gentleness.

Yes, that is exactly why I choose to go for the english cocker! The breeder that I'm getting one from also states that getting the best temperment and health is the most important to her with regards to breeding. Although her dogs are gorgeous as well and have won a bunch of titles.

Piper
18th July 2011, 03:06 PM
My favorite colour of cocker is blue roan. She only breeds black and tan, black and red but what matters the most to me is a happy healthy puppy. I do suspect we will end up with a black female but I am going to choose with an open mind and whatever puppy seems to fit our personalities the best :)

Chamberlain
18th July 2011, 08:55 PM
My mother and my brother both have English Cockers and they are wonderful dogs! They are trained as bird dogs and are good out in the field and in the home! We had American Cockers growing up and they were very nippy and aggressive, my families English Cockers are nothing like that! They are very affectionate and love everybody!

My mother has a brown male and my brother has a golden cocker with white on her face and paws.

mommytoClaire
19th July 2011, 02:53 AM
I've had both, and wonderful experiences with them both. I had an English who left me 13 years ago. Before her I had had an American. Then after her I had an American Cocker/Springer Spaniel. He was a wonderful dog. He had the longer nose because of the Springer in him, reminding us more of our English. But he had a coat very much like an American with constant grooming/clipping necessary. But he was a true love bug, and we just had to have him PTS 2 weeks ago.You will love the English. Very gentle and sweet. I LOVE the roan, but they are hard to find. I recently saw a green eyed Cocker that was gorgeous. If I remember right, the roans can sometimes have blue eyes. I've had blondes and my Cocker/Springer was a tuxedo black and white with freckles.They all were wonderful sweet, loving family does. But I did a lot of searching, and met the parents, wanting to see personalities. My Cocker/Springer was an accident......Cocker was to have been breed that weekend, inlaws stopped by with their Young, unneutered male, and one of the children let the female out before anyone realized, boom, done. But what cute puppies.