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Ali and Oscar
14th August 2011, 01:11 AM
We feed our three dogs raw - including our cav - until recently anyway. She's off it because its easier to control her weight when she's eating something different to the others, but apart from weight control everyone has done great on it!

Nalu
16th August 2011, 05:21 AM
I've been looking into dehydrated raw - just add water. (Because I'm located in such a rural area there's no frozen raw food for sale locally but I could easily order dehydrated online.) I'd like to try adding it to kibble as a supplement. Has anyone tried dehydrated raw?

Dublin
16th August 2011, 09:39 PM
I feed my guys raw & im currently doing a canine nutrition course - will NEVER go back to comercial foid again!!

Brian M
16th August 2011, 10:16 PM
Hi

Just received today 3 pks 1 kg of turkey necks ,4 pks I kg of wild rabbit pieces bone in ,
6 pks 1 kg of boneless wild rabbit and 3 pks 1 kg of mixed rabbit offals .From Woldsway
Foods in Lincs so I then add my mixed veg and mixed fruit and a few supplements like
bonemeal and keepers mix and some seaweed powder from Dorwest with a teaspoon
of goats yogurt and two little whitebait and they are happy and so am I .The bone in the
rabbit is very small pces as you have to be so careful with any bone even when I feed
chicken wings I cut them into three small pces before and always stay with them till they
are finished.I couldnt go back to kibble type food now they would shoot me with my AK47 .:)

For their weight I carefully weigh and feed 20 gramme of meat only .

Well done Sonia pls pass any tips over .

pkt89
16th August 2011, 11:03 PM
I've been looking into dehydrated raw - just add water. (Because I'm located in such a rural area there's no frozen raw food for sale locally but I could easily order dehydrated online.) I'd like to try adding it to kibble as a supplement. Has anyone tried dehydrated raw?

I use sojo dehydrated and add cooked chicken but the instruction is to add raw meat. You can buy it at amazon, it has good price. I heard that honest kitchen is good too.

waldor
18th August 2011, 05:39 AM
Has anyone tried dehydrated raw?


I have asked the person from whom I buy our raw dog food about the freeze-dried/dehydrated raw that she can order for customers. She discouraged me from buying it, so I did not pursue it. Her experience is that dogs don't like it very much, but that may just be the brand(s) she carries.

GraciesMom
18th August 2011, 05:33 PM
Has been such a major help for us with Gracie having had colitis quite a bit on processed foods. Gracie is also not too crazy about the freeze-dried and it really gets her constipated too unless we mix it well with fish oil or flaxseed oil and water.

Holly
20th August 2011, 02:54 PM
For those of you in the US, both of these are reputable companies that I have used and they both deliver. HPP is owned by a Cavalier breeder here in Atlanta but they have distributors that ship the food to your doorstep. A Place for Paws also ships to your doorstep. Both of these are more cost-effective, I have found, than buying the bags of NV, etc from the pet-food store but you need to have some extra room in your freezer.

http://www.healthypetdiet.com/

http://www.aplaceforpaws.com/

Dublin
20th August 2011, 10:25 PM
Well done Sonia pls pass any tips over .

Will do Brian! But from the looks of it you are doing pretty well with your girlies!

StellaLucyDesi
30th August 2011, 11:40 PM
I am using Nature's Variety raw medallions rotating with Primal raw formulas. My dogs are doing wonderful with the raw food! Stella's a blenheim that's mostly white and she did have minor tear and mouth stains, but no more with the raw. They love it, too! Now I'm just trying to convert the cat lol! Btw, I have heard of healthy pet diet, but getting the 2 brands I use is very convenient for me.

Erin2854
31st August 2011, 12:08 AM
Yep I feed Polly (and my cats) raw. Polly gets Bravo and Primal mainly and I also like mixing in "Sojo's" grain free dehydrated into the mix sometimes. We also have used ZiWiPeak on occasion. All my furry kids do great on raw :)

waldor
31st August 2011, 10:00 PM
The healthypetdiet.com site that Holly linked is a very good frozen pre-mixed raw diet. Our Sophie came to us on it and we fed it for a while. When we realized the potatoes in it were causing her scratching allergies, we had to switch to Oma's Pride, but HPP is quite good and if they'll ship directly to your home, then that is very convenient! With both brands, we have to add supplemental vitamins & omegas.

eg93
1st September 2011, 07:30 AM
I feed my pup ZiwiPeak.

Nana26
1st September 2011, 06:05 PM
We did raw with our 2 older girls for about 8 months until both of them started having some issues with very loose stools.

It was a lot of work and they seem to like the food they're on just as much (Taste of the Wild)

Nancy

Zumie05
1st September 2011, 06:11 PM
I am feeding Coco ZiwiPeak, which is like a jerky, and she loves it. It is close enough to raw for me without the hassle of preparing it :)

I also have recently started mixing in freeze dried raw - using this brand http://www.vitalessentialsraw.com/html/products/index.htm and I would say Coco prefers this over the ZiwiPeak!

Lani
2nd September 2011, 02:57 AM
I feed Lucky and Sparky The Honest Kitchen. They've been on it for well over a year now (the Force variety - grain free chicken).

They are doing the best on it they ever did. I did Natures' Variety medallions for a couple months but switched to THK for convenience (aka - lack of freezer space).

I supplement Lucky's food with their supplement "Perfect Form" which really helps Lucky's tummy troubles.

I've been very happy with raw overall, and The Honest Kitchen fits with my life style. Before raw, both dogs had soft stools on all the various premium foods and we were having to feed them I/D (science diet prescription diet) to keep from having recurrent boughts of diarrhea. I love raw.

Re: Treats - I feed Orijen Kibble - grain free, not raw - as treats. I also have started making them dehydrated treats with yams/carrots/apple that I put in the food processor and then dehydrate into small cookies. They love them and I love that they are all natural, organic & made with love by me :)

Tania
2nd September 2011, 11:59 AM
I feed ours Darlings Raw, it contains 60% meat, 30% ground vegetables and 10% ground bone. All three have done quite well on it and their weight is not a big issue. Their coats and skin are also in good condition. On the face of it Darlings looks expensive. The amount of food they quote per dog is far too much.

Karlin
2nd September 2011, 02:00 PM
Tania, do you make your own? If you do, how do you grind the bone? Way back when, when I used to feed raw, I read up on a lot of the discussion of various meat grinders that might be adequate to this task. I'd be interested to know what has worked, if you are doing it yourself.

Blondiemonster
2nd September 2011, 04:29 PM
Which vegetables do u use? I use cauliflower sprouts spinach beans and brocolli but is it true brocolli isnt so good for them?


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Brian M
2nd September 2011, 09:40 PM
Hi

Don't forget the carrots .I buy the mixed veg packs from Asda (Walmart ) which we steam (ie Dawn does I plead ignorance ) there's
four bags of mixed veg in a pack and one bag does a meal so we buy four packs a week .Also feed occasionally turnip pieces its a bit
crunchy and only Pops seems to eat it and the others eat some then just play with it .You feed sprouts as well ,I give them one each ,steamed, per
evening meal and they eat them ,me I haven't touched one in my life.I also feed them Burns dried carrot which they all love and I just
scatter a handful around and leave them to it .

Lani
2nd September 2011, 10:14 PM
Hi

Don't forget the carrots

I actually also grow Oat Grass for Lucky. This has lessened his insistence on eating pesticide treated grass along the lawns in the neighborhood when we go walking. Lucky loves to stop and eat "his" grass on when we start and end our walks. Sparky likes the grass, but I have to break off pieces from the top and hand feed to him. He loves it but can't be bothered to chew it from the plant. :)

They also like carrots and whenever I eat a banana or an apple they get a small piece as well.

Brian M
2nd September 2011, 10:51 PM
Hi Lani

Yes grass is a favourite, mine are def part sheep .For fruits they have daily strawberries ,blueberries ,melon chunks, also after walks melon nice
and chilled to cool them off, they go through three big melons weekly .Apple,pear yes but banana no now too fattening also a daily spoon of Goats
yogurt and some whitebait (sprats ) just as they are and a weekly meal of sardine fillets lightly steamed .There main meat source lately has been
wild rabbit which I feed sometimes just as raw meat and then raw meat with bone in and occasional mixed raw rabbit offal ,as rabbit is about the
lowest fat content of all meats and of course all my girls are on a diet .Any other thoughts more than welcome .

Nicki
2nd September 2011, 11:05 PM
I was doing my own diet, getting frozen raw meat delivered, but it was Durham Animal Products and I wasn't happy with the quality - the lamb and beef was mainly tubes [vessels] Then adding a mix of pureed raw veg and fruit, you need to feed a wide selection.

It's better to feed pureed than cooked veg - esp don't microwave anything as that destroys the vital energy in living things. I also fed a mineral supplement to get he correct dose of calcium and phosphorus. Although tripe is well balanced for the latter two, they are not in sufficient quantities.

However when I was ill it was hard for my husband to deal with all this, so we went over to Darlings. Although I thought this was very good, and as Tania says, you don't need to feed the amount they suggest, and by the time you've bought decent quality meat and veg and fruit etc, it doesn't really work out any more expensive.

Unfortunately they changed their system and now send it out frozen rather than chilled, which doesn't work for us as it takes 2 days to deliver it to here.

So we've switched to dehydrated raw - K9natural which I'm really impressed with.
http://www.k9natural.co.uk/index.php/about_k9_natural/

ingredients are: meat, blood, ground bone, seasonal fruits and vegetables, heart, liver, kidney, green tripe, eggs, garlic and cod liver oil. All of these ingredients are of a quality deemed fit for human consumption, and all except the cod liver oil (from Norway) come from New Zealand farms and growers.

Because it's dehydrated, it doesn't need any special storage except keeping it dry [so no freezer running costs either!] it also doesn't take up much storage space. I got mine from http://www.partnerspets.com/store/product/21831/K9-Natural-Freeze-Dried-Raw-Dog-Food-Lamb-4-Kg/ they did have a special trial offer but it seems to have finished - fortunately I stocked up!!


Lauren actually prefers this to the raw meat!! she picked it out of the bowl before the meat when I mixed the two.

K9natural recommend you also feed raw bones for their teeth cleaning and amusement effects! so we feed chicken necks [which I get from a wholesale butcher] for one meal - stand them on the worktop in the utility room with a bib on to keep them clean and feed them one at a time using pliers as one day I wasn't concentrating and Tommy bit through my nail EEK


Feeding necks for one meal and K9natural for the other works out at under £3 per day for the three of them including supplements - they have Carob flour, natural live [bio] yogurt, garlic granules, oatbran etc They often have Neem sticks for treats, also dried meat which I bake myself - liver, rabbit, chicken etc.

Even something like Naturediet works out around 78p per day each.


Karlin, If you haven't got a mincer for bones then you could wrap the bits in a tea towel and bash thoroughly with a rolling pin or mallet. or try Cutting up the meat into pieces with the garden pruners - brilliant tip from Tania :D so no choking on bones. There are mincers around the £150 price range which do a pretty good job on chickens - used to do whole carcasses through them. They are not great at rabbit though, and tend to struggle with the chicken skin.


Everything fresh is frozen for 2 weeks before use, to kill off any parasites - it doesn't kill bacteria and you have to be extremely careful when handling raw meat. Richard Allport the homoeopathic vet actually recommends the use of Zoflora as a disinfectant.

We use bibs for the dogs as here http://www.cavaliertalk.com/forums/showthread.php?37807-Bibs-for-messy-eaters&highlight=clever+tommy

I've discovered that the large size of the Junior Macare bibs are perfect, they do up with velcro at the back so adjust a bit, and are the perfect length so they don't drag on the floor.



Even with Darlings we were still struggling a bit with colitis - mucusy poos. That has cleared on the K9natural thank goodness. T|hey do still get the odd gurgly belly but it's much better.

Nicki
2nd September 2011, 11:08 PM
bananas are important as they are a good source of potassium - we fed 2/3 banana per dog per week


Don't forget fruit is high in sugar and that might be part of your problems?

Tania
4th September 2011, 10:52 PM
So we've switched to dehydrated raw - K9natural which I'm really impressed with.
http://www.k9natural.co.uk/index.php/about_k9_natural/

ingredients are: meat, blood, ground bone, seasonal fruits and vegetables, heart, liver, kidney, green tripe, eggs, garlic and cod liver oil. All of these ingredients are of a quality deemed fit for human consumption, and all except the cod liver oil (from Norway) come from New Zealand farms and growers.

Because it's dehydrated, it doesn't need any special storage except keeping it dry [so no freezer running costs either!] it also doesn't take up much storage space. I got mine from http://www.partnerspets.com/store/product/21831/K9-Natural-Freeze-Dried-Raw-Dog-Food-Lamb-4-Kg/ they did have a special trial offer but it seems to have finished - fortunately I stocked up!!


K9natural recommend you also feed raw bones for their teeth cleaning and amusement effects! so we feed chicken necks [which I get from a wholesale butcher] for one meal - stand them on the worktop in the utility room with a bib on to keep them clean and feed them one at a time using pliers as one day I wasn't concentrating and Tommy bit through my nail EEK




K9 Natural have sent samples. I am going to advertise them on the shop FOC. If anyone would like any, please let me know and I will send them free.

Unless Darlings change their formula, I am going to stay with them. Dotty is living proof of how fantastic their food is. If we go on holiday my next choice would be K9 Natural.

It is a shame they havn't got their shipping sorted out for people who live further away.

I use these for cutting up chicken wings and bones http://www.amazon.co.uk/Fiskars-Medium-PowerGear-Bypass-Pruner/dp/B0002TTOQA/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1315169444&sr=1-14

shell nyc
8th September 2011, 04:40 AM
Winston has been eating a homemade raw diet for 4.5 yrs now. I follow a Prey-Model Raw diet of ~ 80% meat, 10% bone, 10% organ. In the beginning I religiously measured things out, entered his diet into a spreadsheet to ensure it met AAFCO requirements, etc. Now we just eyeball it, aiming for a varied, complete diet over the course of a week.

A typical meal for Winston is a chicken thigh + gizzard + 1oz beef liver, or a bone-in pork chop, or a steak + chicken foot. The only supplement I use is salmon oil for omega 3s (since not all of his meat is grass-fed/free range). Like Lucky and Sparky, Winston likes to graze on fresh grass/plant shoots and enjoys a snack of carrots, apple, banana, strawberry tops...basically whatever Iím eating heíll get a couple of bites of.

When Iím traveling he sometimes gets Stella and Chewyís frozen or freeze dried raw. He happily eats it but I find he gets intermittent constipation/diarrhea when on them for more than a meal or two (this may be variety dependent, we havenít fully worked through that possibility yet.)