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Margaret C
22nd September 2011, 01:11 PM
http://www.bva.co.uk/newsroom/2460.aspx

anniemac
22nd September 2011, 01:55 PM
I'm in dentist chair on laughing gas and trying to read but obviously I'm not able. Very big news.

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GraciesMom
22nd September 2011, 02:16 PM
What wonderful news Margaret! Thank you for letting us know.

Kate H
22nd September 2011, 02:59 PM
:rah::rah::rah:

It's my birthday this Sunday and I don't think I'll get a better present! Well done to the BVA and KC for insisting on publication of results. And thanks, Margaret, for letting us know.

Kate, Oliver and Aled

Sydneys Mom
22nd September 2011, 03:47 PM
Good news! Thanks for letting us know.

Justine
22nd September 2011, 04:22 PM
Wow,its for real i hope.

Zumie05
22nd September 2011, 05:11 PM
Great news! Lets hope this is the catalyst needed for other areas to begin taking the screening process more seriously.

Blondiemonster
22nd September 2011, 06:18 PM
only in the UK? great news nonetheless

Margaret C
22nd September 2011, 06:47 PM
:rah::rah::rah:

It's my birthday this Sunday and I don't think I'll get a better present! Well done to the BVA and KC for insisting on publication of results. And thanks, Margaret, for letting us know.

Kate, Oliver and Aled

Dear Kate,

Happy Birthday for Sunday. I hope you have a great day.

This news has certainly put a smile on my face. In fact I feel like someone has handed me a great big gift.

This Scheme has been a long time coming.

It is now three and a half years since the need for an official MRI scanning Scheme was first agreed by Kennel Club, cavalier club, and animal welfare representatives along with geneticists, scientists and neurologists at a Companion Animal Welfare Council ( CAWC ) meeting in Spring 2008.

A heart scheme was also agreed and that will hopefully be the next priority to help make cavaliers a healthier breed.

Breeders are still voicing a lot of opposition to to the idea of publishing the MRI results of the cavaliers they are breeding from, but puppy buyers will soon learn that responsible breeders will have placed the results of scans on the KC website, and those are the breeders they will be encouraged to buy from.

No more pretence that the results were better than they were, no more fudging the fact that the scan was done at too young an age to fit with protocols.

And as for those that now refuse to MRI, or say they have scanned but they will not publish the results...........................

Well, I think most people will draw their own conclusions.

Nicki
22nd September 2011, 08:06 PM
Brilliant news - just sad that it has been so long in coming...


But a huge thank you to everyone who has fought long and hard for this scheme to be in place. We hope it will quickly be followed by a heart scheme too.

BrooklynMom
23rd September 2011, 07:14 AM
Wonderful. Just wonderful.

Sabby
23rd September 2011, 09:37 AM
Fantastic News.

Margaret C
23rd September 2011, 01:19 PM
http://pedigreedogsexposed.blogspot.com:80/2011/09/no-more-protests-official-sm-scheme.html

Sandrac
24th September 2011, 10:28 AM
This is such good news - but there still is a long long haul ahead.

anniemac
24th September 2011, 08:11 PM
I have gone back to read your blog from last october about the scheme and went on the cavalier club website to see if I could get more information. I am very confused about the grading. I know some have said on recent scans it has grades for CM and also I have seen posting from Sins on other forum of gradings.

It says its not official yet on club website. Is that going to change in january? I know I'm in the usa but I was curious on breeding recommendations or in particular how the grades would be explained to puppy buyers.




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Margaret C
25th September 2011, 04:10 PM
http://pedigreedogsexposed.blogspot.com:80/2011/09/no-more-protests-official-sm-scheme.html

In the comments section there was discussion about a link posted on the Cavalier Health Liaison Committee website.

One breeder comments............

"There is a page on this Dutch website with a summary of health problems in the breed. Which says that Cavaliers have no more health problems than other breeds, and the incidence of SM is extremely low. What planet do they live on?"

I looked at this website and found they seem to be setting up their own EBV scheme with two prominent breed club health representatives named as the collectors of data from UK cavalier owners?

This could be seen as an attempt to sabotage the KC/AHT EBV scheme.
I have written to the KC, Cavalier Club, & Sarah Blott at the AHT to make them aware of the situation.

I also added a comment to the blog.

Desrae
25th September 2011, 08:17 PM
YAYAYAYAYAY!!!!! Fantastic news!

Karlin
25th September 2011, 08:25 PM
This could be seen as an attempt to sabotage the KC/AHT EBV scheme.
I have written to the KC, Cavalier Club, & Sarah Blott at the AHT to make them aware of the situation.



Jeez -- not only does that site misinterpet existing research, but also fails to note that every single study done in addition to Clare Rusbridge's work has confirmed at *least* the rate of affectedness she initially predicted (and sadly, some huge studies since rate it far higher). Also: how can they set up an EBV system that is at all useful if they accept MRIs 'signed by any vet' -- vet?! Who is going to interpret quality? MRIs being of too low a quality is already known to be a major reason why the UK EBV system isn't yet available. It is why UK breeders wanted a panel for interpretation, which is what the new KC/BVA scheme gives them.

And how ludicrous to use a 'survey' set up by breeders on the internet to state rates of MVD and CM/SM and how many dogs have symptoms. We all know how easy it is for vets to miss symptoms, much less dog owners or breeders. Using 'statistcs' and 'evidence' from a breeder sponsored online survey just might be a bit biased in favour of low rates of disease and symptoms. :rolleyes: Maybe like the low rates of affected dogs being submitted for the UK EBVs, even though breeders who scan have readily admitted on their own discussion sites that about half their scans show that dog is affected with SM. Several, including various UK club committee members over recent years, have agreed with that rate. An artificially low rate -- seemingly too many breeders only submitting their good scans only --has also stalled the EBV scheme as there isn't enough honest info for it to be meaningful yet for breeders to actually use it to improve breed health :sl*p:.

How amazing that this breeder-led online survey has fabulously lower rates of both MVD and CM/SM than *all* the actual research over the past decades has revealed!

No one takes online surveys where anyone can respond, seriously.

A lot of breeders and researchers have worked hard to get the KC/BVA scheme up and I think anyone wanting something reputable and valuable will want to support it -- and also perhaps, work to have it eventually appropriately linked to any new international schemes, where the integrity of scan interpretation etc can be guaranteed. It would make more sense to have any additional programmes for breeders outside the UK, submit in to the UK scheme and grow it to an international programme.

Desrae
25th September 2011, 09:10 PM
I have to say, just my opinion, that is evil of them.

No matter what, you always have to be one step ahead of these people.