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sins
10th December 2011, 11:31 PM
Daisy got out of her basket approx half an hour ago and promptly collapsed on the floor.She had no coordination in her legs and her head and neck were trembling.We got her up and she staggered a few steps and went down again on her belly.She kept trying to follow the other dogs and eventually got herself up but her front limbs kept giving way.She's able to walk now,but she falls to one side after a few steps and has had an episode like a seizure where her eyes were blinking uncontrollably.She's now alert,wagging her tail,doesn't seem to be in pain.We're waiting on the vet to get back to us.
We've never seen anything like this with her.
I'm not sure that we can do much more for her.
Sins

Sydneys Mom
10th December 2011, 11:57 PM
Keeping fingers, toes and paws crossed for good news for Daisy. Sydney had a similar experience not too long ago and the vet called it a focal seizure. It lasted a few minutes then he was fine afterwards. Thankfully, he hasn't had one since. Let us know what the vet says.

anniemac
11th December 2011, 12:05 AM
I will be praying for you and daisy.

Jasperxxgabby
11th December 2011, 12:12 AM
She had no coordination in her legs and her head and neck were trembling.We got her up and she staggered a few steps and went down again on her belly.She kept trying to follow the other dogs and eventually got herself up but her front limbs kept giving way..
Sins

This sounds a very similar experience to what happened to Jasper around 9 weeks ago now, it was an extremely scary and upsetting sight to witness, though with Jasper it was put down to his disk problems not his SM. My heart is with you right now and I hope things will settle down with Daisy and she gets through this episode. It is just so sad that you are having to deal with this. Gentle hugs to Daisy.

sins
11th December 2011, 12:32 AM
She seems a lot better,she's sleeping now,having eaten and drank.
She's walked ok a while back,head seems a little shaky.
We'll leave the vet in his bed for tonight and see him tomorrow.It's much better to have a clear head in the morning.
She managed to catch a piece of tossed ham from about ten feet away...
Sins

Soushiruiuma
11th December 2011, 04:40 AM
How scary. The symptoms sound like a stroke in human medicine. But there are lots of things it could be.

I would definitely want to talk to a neurologist, rather than GP vet about this.

Kathleen
11th December 2011, 05:39 AM
Poor Daisy. Please let us know what the vet says - in the mean time, I'm thinking of her and hope she is okay. xxx

BrooklynMom
11th December 2011, 06:27 AM
Awe, praying for Daisy!

Do you have Paralysis Ticks there? This is very similar to those symptoms...though, with that said, it would have gotten worse, not better.

I don't have very good advice other than to tell you I'm thinking of you and Daisy!!

jasperpaw
11th December 2011, 09:34 AM
Poor Daisy, I do hope she is a lot better today. We had something a little similar with Jasper in the Summer, he was out in the garden with our son one evening when he became unwell, he could`nt walk in a straight line, his front legs started to do a paddling action, he managed to get into the house to us, but was panting badly, heart pounding, trembling and drooling a lot and looked terrified. We phoned the vet straight away and was asked to bring him straight up, we really thought it was his heart, bearing in mind his heart condition. After an examination and taking some blood the vet felt it was some sort of fit and was told to rest him for a couple of days, he was fine again on the following morning and never had one again since then.

sins
11th December 2011, 11:16 AM
She's absolutely fine this morning,did spins by the fridge at 7 am,trotted down to the bed and I heard her trying to jump on the bed.She made it after a few tries!She's perfectly happy staring out the window upon the ledge.
No ill effects whatsoever.
I agree,not a case for a vet any more and I will push for a referral to Jacques Penderis first thing on Monday morning.
I'll also order a swab from the AHT for Episodic falling.
Thanks for the posts all.It's been so helpful.

Sins

Kathleen
11th December 2011, 11:28 AM
Yes Sins, I was thinking Episodic Falling. My Thomas has EF and can go for ages without an episode, then out of the blue will have one. Often they are brought on by excitement or after a walk, especially when it's hot. He seems to have an attack every 2 or 3 months and only started about 3 years ago when he was 5 years old. He is always perfectly fine afterwards thank goodness. Hope it was a once off for Daisy. x

Karlin
11th December 2011, 12:00 PM
Oh Sins, how difficult. I am glad she is doing better this morning. I cannot help but wonder/doubt whether this is connected to her SM -- this isn't really typical of any of the many cases I have heard of or SM dogs I know, and Clare Rusbridge had felt that signs Daisy has shown in the past sounded more like sings of a neuro-muscular problem than SM symptoms (at least not 'just' SM if that makes sense and without underplaying the seriousness and distress of owning an SM affected dog). Maybe something to investigate if you are seeing Jacques Penderis. The only other cavalier I have heard of having this kind of difficulty was a rescue Cathy Moon took in a couple of years ago and he was diagnosed as having more than SM going on (eg a background neuromuscular disorder separate to his SM).

I would wonder whether treating for SM isn't getting at the core issue.

I'd certainly however talk to your vet about adding something like Trocoxil for pain? Clare notes this has made a big difference for a lot of dogs. Leo is now on 200mg gabapentin 3x, cimetidine 2x and just starting trocoxil, as a point of comparison; not sure where you are in treatment.

sins
11th December 2011, 12:51 PM
I'm not sure it's connected to her SM.She has had a bad week painwise though.The night before last,she snapped at my husband who put his hand under her ribcage to help her up on the sofa.She screamed for a few seconds after being lifted.
I did think EF but her limbs are not rigid during the episode and this was more severe than the summer ones where she'd just drop down on her belly after taking a few steps.It's not a case where she'd been excited after exercise,it's basically a dog who got out of her basket after a long snooze and her legs didn't work.It's the first time I've seen her having some kind of seizure,with her head and shoulders trembling and her eyes blinking uncontrollably.
It's definitely something neurological..
Poor baby,she's had so much happen to her.I'm not sure how much more we can allow her to endure.
Sins

Margaret C
11th December 2011, 01:16 PM
I have not had a dog experience anything like this so cannot add anything to the advice you have been given, but I just want you to know I have my fingers crossed that you find an answer for Daisy.

Brian M
11th December 2011, 01:23 PM
Hi

Sins we all are of course all thinking of you and Daisy and so hope you discover soon the cause of this horrible problem ,poor
Daisy and you have so much to carry .

susandavis1
11th December 2011, 01:40 PM
Sending positive thoughts to you and Daisy. I hope you manage to get to the bottom of it. :hug:

Nicki
11th December 2011, 08:47 PM
OH goodness Sins that is just horrid for you all :(

So pleased she is doing a bit better but I think you are right to get on to Mr Penderis ASAP.

I've not heard of something quite like this with SM, it does sound like something else is going on. I don't think it sounds like EFS.

I was wondering about some kind of heart arrhythmia? but seizure activity seems the most likely.



I really admire you for putting Daisy's quality of life as the priority - as you konw, I have been there too many times :( so can empathise with you.

See what Mr Penderis says though, hopefully she can be managed more comfortably.


Please keep us posted, you are all in our thoughts.

linderbelle
11th December 2011, 10:05 PM
Oh Nicki I'm sorry. Abbey is havin issues falling also. We have non-skid socks on her. Please keep us posted.

Sabby
11th December 2011, 11:10 PM
Just want to say that i am thinking of you and Daisy.

Kate H
12th December 2011, 10:39 AM
Hope you can sort out Daisy's problems. Oliver has a similar problem with his hind legs - no push to get him out of bed and a distinct wobble until he gets going. Sometimes, when I suggest he goes out into the garden, he flops down, clearly saying 'Nope, can't manage that at the moment.' He doesn't tremble, though he did do this fairly regularly earlier in the year, usually after exercise. Now, however, he still really enjoys trotting on the level round the park off-lead, and his legs are noticeably better for several hours after that. It seems to be pushing himself up after not using his legs that is the problem. As he has both spondylosis and SM, this could be caused by either of them interfering with nerves. At the moment we're going with SM and have increased his gabapentin and are watching to see if that makes any difference. If it doesn't, we might X-ray him to see if his spondylosis has got worse.

Kate, Oliver and Aled

Ruth
12th December 2011, 10:58 AM
Sins you mention Daisy's eyes blinking, is this proper blinking or the eye flicking from side to side (diagonally) called nystagmus? The one feature I have noticed in my two with EF is that their eyes are usually wide and staring. I have seen nystagmus in one of mine who had a vestibular attack, also one who had something similar and ended up with a head tilt. This was in the 90's and the first time I had seen anything like this in my cavaliers.

sins
12th December 2011, 11:39 AM
Hi Ruth,
It was Nystagmus. I was very careful to note the type of eye movement.Her limbs were not rigid either like the videos I've seen of EF.I was contacted privately last night by a breeder who suggested a vestibular episode as one of hers had it.
Basically,she got out of her basket and behaved like a dog on an ice rink,all four limbs uncoordinated and flailing.As she slowly recovered,she would walk ,and her hind legs wobble and she'd fall over to the side.The trembling was confined to her head and neck area,not below the shoulders.The whole thing lasted about 30 mins to full recovery.
I don't know what could have prompted it.(certainly not exercise)..
She had been sore all week and she'd been vomiting on and off.
I'll still do the EF test and have it excluded as a cause and will hopefully have this information for the specialist.
Sins

Brian M
12th December 2011, 11:50 AM
Hi Sins

We are so lucky to have people like Ruth ,what happens now to Daisy whats the next step.

sins
12th December 2011, 12:16 PM
Hi Brian,
The plan is firstly to order my test kit from the AHT.
There's a particular vet I want to see at our local surgery who looks after her,so an evening appointment with him to ask for a referral to the veterinary hospital in Cork city.
Then we sit and wait for the results from AHT and for an appointment with the specialist.I think he only comes over from Edinburgh every few weeks,so things may not happen quickly.
Again,she's fine today,holding a vigil by the fridge when I left, and had been out snuffling around the garden with the other two at 7am.She's not exactly sound on the front right leg,but that's not unusual.
Sins

pippa
12th December 2011, 02:06 PM
Hope you can get to the bottom of what caused it xx

Ruth
12th December 2011, 07:47 PM
Sins, thanks for your reply. Certainly the nystagmus would point more to a vestibular type attack to me. Never seen that at all in the EF attacks my boys have had. As I mentioned before, back in the early 90's I had two with facial paralysis and one of them had nystagmus, very badly, and was left with a head tilt. As I had never heard of this before in cavaliers I felt I was a bad owner!! not one with this problem, but two!! The one with nystagmus went on to get facial paralysis on the other side too and eventually his muscles atrophied leaving him with a rather cross expression.

Hope Daisy doesn't have EF, but good on you for testing. It is a horrible disease and every opportunity must be taken to eradicate it in my opinion. My two were involved in the initial research with Dr Penderis. Good luck and gentle hugs for Daisy.

Love my Cavaliers
13th December 2011, 01:35 AM
Riley has short vestibular events coupled with nystagmus several times a week. Oddly enough hers never occurs while she is upright or walking, only when she is lying down. Her body will curve into a backwards C and her head will whip backwards. They typically last for about 30 seconds and then it takes her about another 30 seconds to recuperate and then it's like nothing ever happened. She does have other vestibular events without nystagmus in which she will do what Daisy did, just collapse and try to get up, but have difficulty doing it. For Riley though it is definitely related to her SM and without her daily prednisone, she would not be walking. Let us know what you find out from your visit. Good luck.

lindylou
13th December 2011, 02:07 PM
hi
so sorry to read about daisy i hope she will be ok please give her a kiss and cuddle from me a louie

*Pauline*
15th December 2011, 09:25 AM
Hi Sinead, sorry, I'm only just seeing this for the first time. Poor Daisy and poor you, that must have been so scary. How is Daisy today?

sins
16th December 2011, 07:00 PM
Oh well,usual vet wasn't there this evening...
But referral has been made to the neurologist,so that's good.
She had a thorough check up and her sweet little heart is just fine.She has two inflamed ears although very clean,they appear red so she got easotic ear drops.
She got a shot of metacam which works for approx 72 hours and a long acting antibiotic as she has abdominal tenderness on her left side and a slightly raised temperature.
She's snoozing contentedly on hubby's fleece jacket on the recliner and I haven't the heart to move her.
Sins

Ruth
16th December 2011, 07:19 PM
Oh bless her.
Wonder how much her ear 'problem' influenced her balance and possibly the vomiting ? (just thinking about a vertigo attack I had due to an ear problem, I couldn't walk in a straight line and threw and threw).
Anyway, glad she has the referral and some medication to help in the meantime.

Brian M
16th December 2011, 09:03 PM
Hi Sins
We are sure Daisy will improve you have your referral and Daisy has you .

Nicki
16th December 2011, 09:04 PM
It's good that you have the referral sorted, I agree with Ruth, ear problems may have aggravated things [sorry you had vertigo Ruth that's horrid] . It sounds like she maybe has a few things going on poor wee soul :(

I hope the antibiotics and pain killers help and she feels much better over the weekend.

mommytoClaire
18th December 2011, 01:13 PM
I'm sorry, I'm just seeing this today. Adding my thoughts and prayers to an answer and recovery for Daisy.

sins
23rd December 2011, 06:58 PM
I'm afraid it's not very good news.
The vet telephoned with some news about her blood tests.The reason for her seizures is a build up of toxins in the bloodstream.She has pancreatitis and liver damage.
It seems to be caused by infection or something more sinister.She's starting a liver support diet and some meds to tide her over until we can get an ultrasound done.
She's not come through the sedation and tests as well as we'd hoped.Vet is absolutely lovely,but didn't sound very optimistic.
Sins

Brian M
23rd December 2011, 07:33 PM
Hello Sins

Bxxxxxx hell its more on top of what poor Daisy and you are coping with already .Lets get rid
of 2011 as 2012 can only mean better news foryou both. Our sincerest best wishes to you
both Sinead .

Kate H
23rd December 2011, 08:12 PM
So sorry to hear the latest on Daisy - not a good start to Christmas for you. Thinking of you... :hug:

Kate, Oliver and Aled

Nicki
23rd December 2011, 08:29 PM
So sorry to hear this Sins what horrible news :(

I do hope Daisy bounces back over the next few days so that you can enjoy Christmas together.


Thank goodness you managed to get her seen so quickly so that she has the best possible chance to recover and is on the treatment she needs.


Keeping you all in our thoughts xx

dellis
23rd December 2011, 10:28 PM
sorry to hear this, fingers crossed that things work out well.

Sydneys Mom
23rd December 2011, 10:56 PM
Sending prayers and gentle hugs. So sorry this is happening to Daisy.

Sabby
23rd December 2011, 11:17 PM
I really feel for you, my heart just sunk when I read this. You & Daisy are in my thoughts and prayers.

lovecavaliers
24th December 2011, 03:53 AM
Just wanted to add that I was thinking of you and hoping the best for sweet Daisy
:lotsaluv::lotsaluv:

anniemac
24th December 2011, 04:37 AM
I've been thinking of you and daisy. I'm so sorry xx

Lots of love,
Anne and elton

paula12
24th December 2011, 05:11 AM
So Sorry to hear about poor daisy. You are in our thoughts.

jasperpaw
24th December 2011, 11:13 AM
So very sorry to read about Daisy, as if she did`nt have enough problems, thinking of you and Daisy and sending you both hugs.:hug:

sins
24th December 2011, 12:53 PM
She had a very restless night.My husband went to collect her new meds and noone seemed to know about my conversation with the vet.
So a different vet reviewd her notes and suggested we do a cPLI test for pancreatitis.So that's been done and results should be back after the holidays.
The food she got was Royal canin gastro intestinal low fat diet as opposed to the royal canin liver support diet.
So I have no idea what's right or wrong...one vet says stop the new NSAID,another says it's ok.
Anyway,she ate the food and kept it down..so that's a positive.
Sins

Ruth
24th December 2011, 01:43 PM
Sins I am so sorry to read the updates, I was hoping that things were on the up. Poor little lass, her problems are not helped by a lack of continuity at the vets. I hope things continue in a positive way until after the holidays when you can get some results. Reading back through the thread there are a couple of pointers that you noticed yourself, (the tenderness in the abdomen area). I couldn't find the name of the new NSAID, just out of curiousity I was wondering what it was and when she started it?
Gentle hugs for Daisy, bless her...

Charlifarley
24th December 2011, 03:06 PM
So sorry to read about Daisy and it must be very worrisome particularly at this time of year. Hopefully the food will make a difference to her and combined with her meds that she will be picking up soon. Trapper had v mild pancreatitis a couple of weeks ago - nothing as bad symptomwise as Daisy- but he recovered very quickly on a combination of special gastro food and antibiotics. We will be keeping our fingers crossed

susandavis1
24th December 2011, 05:15 PM
I'm sorry to hear that Daisy is so poorly. It's good that she is keeping her food down and hopefully the test results will help give a clearer picture of what meds she needs and she can start on the road to recovery. Sending gentle hugs and positive thoughts to you.

Reptigirl
24th December 2011, 05:31 PM
Sins,

I'm so sorry to ready about Daisy! I hope you get things sorted. I just kinda skimmed through the thread because I have to leave soon but it did bring something to mind.

My Holly had an episode where she had extreme vomiting. She spent a week at the vet on IV fluids. Aside from being severely dehydrated my vet couldn't find anything wrong. She was extremely tender in the abdomen. She had no interests in foods. After a week my vet assumed pancreatitis and sent her home. Even though the tests said no. Well after only being home for 1 1/2 days she was keeping food down again and things seemed to be looking up. Then out of no where she vomited, staggered, stumbled, wobbled around and dropped to the ground. She had rapid & strange eye movement. One eye stayed in place and the other eye sort of bulged out and off to the side. She was limp and unresponsive. Her gums went white. By the time we got the the ER vet (about 30 minutes later) she was fine. (She slowly recovered over the 30 minutes. It was not an instant improvement). Her stomach continued to be very sensitive. You could actually see her having stomach cramps (stretching out) and she would yelp if you pushed on it. All of her tests came back normal. We went to a specialist the next day where they did an ultrasound of her heart & belly. They also did some other heart tests. Turned out she had a 2nd degree heart block. (Her heart was beating too slow and very irregular. She also had a 1-2 murmur and high blood pressure) All of this was basically causing fainting spells. Her excessive vomiting was caused by being nauseous and dizzy. So after starting medication everything went away and she is fine now. I know it's not exactly the same but maybe something to consider? I don't know if this would cause liver issues but could be a combined problem?

Pat
24th December 2011, 07:35 PM
Sins,

I’m a bit reluctant to post, but here goes. Pet owners have different views on dealing with illnesses – some want to understand everything that is going on and get copies of test results, do independent research, and be a part of the treatment planning and decision making “team.” Others are more comfortable following the direction of their vet and have no need to understand the specifics. There is no right or wrong way, it’s just individual preference. Also, depending on where we live, we have different access to specialists and specialty treatment. I think we know where I fall on that continuum!

Some thoughts and questions:

Time has been lost, through no fault of yours – I re-read the entire thread and see references to vomiting, abdominal pain, eating ham, shot of Metacam, sedation, etc. When a dog, esp a young dog, has an episode as you describe at the beginning of this thread, generally the vet’s first thought is to run blood chemistry to rule out metabolic/major organ causes, and most vets will get results the same day or the following day. When this kind of episode happens to a dog with SM, it is natural to think that everything is SM related so the urgency to do blood chemistry is lost. (This is a good reminder to all of us to not assume that everything is SM related.)

Was blood chem done on the 16th, but it took seven days to get the results? Do you have a copy of the report? When was her last blood chem done which gave normal values? Do you have a copy of that report so that you can compare the differences? How fast can you generally get blood chem results? Here is a link with info about interpreting blood chem and other tests:

http://dogaware.com/health/tests.html

Was the shot of metacam given before or after the blood was drawn for analysis? What NSAIDs does she take? There is a potential of NSAID hepatotoxicity – have you discussed this with the vet? Is she taking NSAIDs now? You mentioned a “new NSAID” – I would be VERY reluctant to continue on any new NSAID until you understand what you are dealing with. I would make a chart with a history of what NSAIDs she has taken with start dates, any unusual symptoms, and results of any monitoring blood chem done along the way since you started drug treatment for her SM. You can also keep a diary and make notes about vomiting, abdominal pain, anorexia, etc. which will be helpful. You are in a difficult spot because of her SM – normally one would stop all NSAIDs in the presence of potential hepatotoxicity until you can figure out what is going on and get her stable.
You mention that she was under sedation – what was that for and what agents/drugs were used?

Potential problems are reported to be liver and pancreatitis – you need to see the specific liver values on the blood chem to understand the degree of the problem. What are the differential diagnoses – which means what different potential liver diseases do they suspect and what are the potential causes? Did vet use the term hepatic encephalopathy to describe the initial event?

Was pancreatitis diagnosed based on amylase and lipase values on blood chem? A cPLI is a MUCH more definitive test – so that vet was correct. Pancreatic enzymes on a general blood panel can be affected by other major organ disease, including kidney and liver disease.

What are the new meds she is taking and at what dosage?

Have you talked with vet about additional tests such as bile acids test and ultrasound of the liver? Do you have access to an internal medicine vet specialist?

I’ve actually compiled five pages of information and links about liver disease and pancreatitis, diet, supplements, etc. There is also information on home cooked diet options, which would be my preference during a crisis rather than the vet script commercial foods. I can also copy information from my vet textbooks, but it would be better if I had a more clear idea of the possible diagnoses so that I can only include information that is relevant so that you don’t have to wade through a lot of info that won’t be helpful. I’ll save this and can email it to you if you’d like as it is way too much to post on a message board. I’ll pm my email address to you.

If this is far more than you want to hear or digest, I completely understand! I am way “over the edge” when it comes to veterinary information, and I understand that most people really don’t want to get into this kind of detail.

Pat

sins
24th December 2011, 08:17 PM
Hi Pat,
Thanks for posting.I'm aware of the gravity of the situation and aware of the time lost.Our local vet has limited facilities for diagnosis of illnesses outside of the routine.She was seen last friday and abdominal tenderness noted.She was given the metacam and an IV antibiotic(can't recall which one and referred).She was seen on Wednesday and was not on any medication at the time the bloods were drawn apart from the metacam shot and antibiotic.
sedation was listed as ACP/Morphine and a VLSI standard profile was done.She had x rays which found marked HD and Onsior prescribed.She has 10 mg on Thursday and Friday.I expect the bloods would have been drawn while she was under sedation and definitely before the onsior.
Blood results came back yesterday and reported marked elevations in liver enzymes,bile acids,and bilirubin consistent with significant hepatocelllular damage,dysfunction and cholestasis.Pancreatitis could also cause this pattern and assessment of canine PLI may be helpful.
so the PLI test was ordered this morning.Probably no results until Wednesday.The earliest the ultrasound can be done is on Wednesday as the hospital is closed...
She's not had any NSAIDs today and I'm not giving her anything.
She vomited her prescription food but had a few tablespoons of rice about three hours ago and is sleeping restfully now.
Not sure what else I can do except keep her comfortable and get through the holidays.
forgot to say...they are aware of hepatotoxicity,but as she had the seizure before the new meds were given and had been vomiting,I get the feeling they're looking at pancreatitis as no 1 possibility or a tumour unfortunately.
Sins

Pat
24th December 2011, 10:12 PM
Sins,

I read your email, and the details you gave tell me that you are very knowledgeable about what is going on and you are on the absolute right course at this moment.

I will reply via email, and I'll send those links and info that I gathered that might be helpful for you to read. At this moment, I must jump into the shower to get ready for a Christmas Eve party at my neighbors' that begins in one hour. You'll have an email to read when you wake up tomorrow.

You and Daisy will have a special place in my Christmas thoughts and prayers. She is lucky to belong to you!

I hope that both of you have a restful night,

Pat

sins
25th December 2011, 12:40 AM
Hi Pat,
Again thank you taking the time to reply,considering the holiday schedule.
I started life as a vet labtech in Ireland and in Devon so can manage to get my head around what's happening.(just about).
We just got back from church and she walked out to greet us from her crate,tail wagging so she's a lot brighter and seems much more comfortable.
It's unfortunate with the holiday timing that we have to wait for the ultrasound and the PLI test to make all the pieces fit.
Enjoy your Christmas day and best wishes from Cork.
Sins

Ruth
25th December 2011, 04:26 PM
Think I would have stopped the new NSAIDS too, Sins, so pleased to read the little lass seems alot brighter, they are wonderfully stoical these little ones aren't they?

Charlifarley
29th December 2011, 02:44 PM
How is Daisy getting on? Did she manage to have her ultrasound yet?

sins
29th December 2011, 02:53 PM
The ultrasound is booked for 5 th January.
She's definitely improving,no vomiting,looking a lot less jaundiced and eating well.
Her energy levels are coming back up so we're happy enough with her at the moment.
So no quick answers..
Sins

Charlifarley
29th December 2011, 02:56 PM
Thanks for the update Sins, have been thinking about her a lot. Sounds like things are looking up a bit, even if you don't have the answers as to what is wrong yet. Let's hope she continues to improve.

anniemac
29th December 2011, 03:52 PM
The ultrasound is booked for 5 th January.
She's definitely improving,no vomiting,looking a lot less jaundiced and eating well.
Her energy levels are coming back up so we're happy enough with her at the moment.
So no quick answers..
Sins

I've been looking for an update. I'm so glad she is doing better. <3

Karlin
29th December 2011, 05:13 PM
That's great news; fingers crossed she continues to do well. :)

Sydneys Mom
29th December 2011, 08:14 PM
Happy Daisy is doing better

Jasperxxgabby
30th December 2011, 04:55 PM
So glad she is doing better Sins, good girl Daisy :)

sins
5th January 2012, 01:47 PM
She had her ultrasound today and it's not good news.
All indications are that she has liver cancer.
We had planned a biopsy,but instead she'll have exploratory surgery to confirm the diagnosis in the morning.
We have decided not to opt for chemotherapy but to let her go peacefully if the worst is confirmed.
Sins

Charlifarley
5th January 2012, 01:59 PM
Oh Sins I'm so sorry to read your news. Hopefully it won't be as bad as you think. This has been a terrible start to the year for our lovely dogs here on Cavalier Talk.


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anniemac
5th January 2012, 02:03 PM
I'm so sorry Sins. Hugs to you and Daisy. I hope it's not as bad as you fear <3

Sabby
5th January 2012, 02:31 PM
Oh sins I am so sorry. Praying that something can be done. Sending lots of :hug:

linderbelle
5th January 2012, 02:50 PM
Oh Sins you know I know what you are going through and I also have known you since the day I came on here. There are no words but you have helped me and I hope I have and Abbey has helped you. I wish we lived closer together so we could squeeze each other and cry uncontrollably. We both know that everybody here is like us an animal lover and that helps knowing the people who do respond to us feel our pain. Hugs hun and I am hugging you tight.

Much love,

Linda & Abbey

dellis
5th January 2012, 03:26 PM
sorry to read about your daisy, we will be thinking of you tomorrow and fingers and paws crossed too.

Sydneys Mom
5th January 2012, 03:27 PM
Sins I'm so sorry you have to face this with Daisy. I will keep both of you in my thoughts and prayers.

Love my Cavaliers
5th January 2012, 03:28 PM
I'm so sorry Sins. Gosh, when it rains it pours - tears and bad news, I mean. I'm just holding out for the best for Daisy and you. Hugs and good wishes.

emmastewartliberty
5th January 2012, 03:31 PM
What a tough time you are having. Thinking of you so much, and hoping against hope.

ashleighelizabeth
5th January 2012, 04:00 PM
I am so sorry. You and your family are in my thoughts and prayers right now. :hug:

Ruth
5th January 2012, 04:14 PM
So very sorry to read this, gentle hugs for you and for dear little Daisy.

Karlin
5th January 2012, 04:56 PM
Oh no, Sins -- just so sad about this. Daisy has had a hard time of things with her health. :( I know you will do what is best for her and kindest. She has had a very good life with your family, where she has always been surrounded by love and happiness.

It is little consolation I know, but least you now know what has been so difficult for her -- I think it does really help to know what is going on and understand the choices -- so often we never have that opportunity which adds to an already terrible, difficult situation with no choices that you ever want to make in the first place. :( I know when Quincy was ill it helped me so much just to know what was going on, what the possible choices were, and what the vets felt was best.

Thinking of all of you --hugs from Dublin.

Margaret C
5th January 2012, 05:25 PM
So sorry to read this.

Poor little Daisy, give her a gentle hug from me.

Brian M
5th January 2012, 07:08 PM
Hello sins
If i wrote what I feel it would make me so sad but I am sure
you know what I feel and what I would write .
Hugs from me and big licks from the girls to you both.

Brian

Reptigirl
5th January 2012, 07:29 PM
Sending :hug:

Jasperxxgabby
5th January 2012, 07:47 PM
Oh gosh no, I don't know what to say, I will be praying and wishing that nothing sinister comes of tomorrows exploratory surgery and her condition is treatable. Thinking of you tonight.
Andrea xx

Sandrac
5th January 2012, 08:03 PM
Sins, you and Daisy will be in our thoughts tomorrow. Sending:hug::hug::hug:

Kathleen
6th January 2012, 05:37 AM
I'm so sorry to read this. I'm thinking of you and Daisy.xxx

jasperpaw
6th January 2012, 08:42 AM
Thinking of Daisy and you all today and sending you all big hugs.:hug:

susandavis1
6th January 2012, 10:10 AM
Thinking of you and Daisy today, sending positive thoughts for the surgery, truly hoping for better news than you expect. :hug:

sins
6th January 2012, 10:52 AM
Thanks so much everyone,
We're waiting for a call around lunchtime to hear how things went and what options we have.
Sins

Karen and Ruby
6th January 2012, 11:23 AM
Oh Sins, I've been following with great hope and prayers for little daisy. I have my fingers crossed that you get the results you want today. You are so brave and selfless and I admire your strength through all this.
Will be thinking if you both today xxx

sins
6th January 2012, 01:41 PM
It's hard to type this,even though it was expected.
We had to let her go to the bridge.
I know the staff at Gilabbey did everything possible for her and are just so caring and dedicated.
I'm just heartbroken.
Sins

linderbelle
6th January 2012, 01:52 PM
Oh Sins I am so sorry. My heart aches for your loss and you know I'm right with ya. I hope Abbey & Daisy are together. I pray they are. I wish I could get on a plane right now and come to Ireland and we just hold each other and get each other through this. My prayers are with you and you know I understand fully.

Love my Cavaliers
6th January 2012, 01:54 PM
Oh Sins, there's nothing easy about it even when you expect it. You always hold out hope for a miracle. I'm so sorry. We're all heartbroken with you. There's just so much sorrow. Be at peace sweet Daisy.

Karen and Ruby
6th January 2012, 02:00 PM
This is such a tough start to the year at the forum x Um so so sorry Sins. You did everything you could x I hope to that Abbey and Daisy have found each other and are forever friends x x

emmastewartliberty
6th January 2012, 02:11 PM
I am so so sorry. Knowing something of what you are going through my heart goes out to you so much. I just hope that knowing that you did everything you could can bring some crumb of comfort.

Brian M
6th January 2012, 02:17 PM
Oh Sins

The news we all dreaded we are all so sorry .

Ruth
6th January 2012, 02:18 PM
You have been on such a long journey with Daisy and have been there for her every step of the way. Sometimes the odds are just so heavily stacked against these wonderful little ones, but you did the right thing by her at the end when the odds were just too great to surmount. I am desperately sorry Sins.

Run free dear sweet Daisy.

Jan Bell
6th January 2012, 02:23 PM
I am so sorry to hear this news. We are thinking of you.

Jan

Sydneys Mom
6th January 2012, 02:29 PM
I'm so sorry Sins. Sweet Daisy, may she rest in peace--pain free.

BrooklynMom
6th January 2012, 02:31 PM
I'm so sorry Sins:( May Daisy run free, hugs and prayers to you x

KCB
6th January 2012, 02:34 PM
Sins, so sorry to hear this news. You have done everything possible for her during her life and given her the best care possible. I loved to see her cheeky face in the gallery. Far too young to go to the Bridge. Sending hugs to you, your husband, children and the other two dogs. May Daisy rest in peace and run pain free with all our cavaliers at the Bridge.

Kim N
6th January 2012, 02:38 PM
Sins, you don't know me as I am new to the forum but I have been watching Daisy's story and wanted to tell you how very sorry I am for you and your families loss. Rest in peace now sweet Daisy.

Kathleen
6th January 2012, 02:47 PM
Oh Sins, I'm so sad to hear this news, you must be devastated. Run free sweet Daisy, there are many friends waiting for you. I'm thinking of you Sins.xxx

Sydney
6th January 2012, 02:49 PM
Sins,

We are so sorry for your loss. May Daisy run free and young again at the Rainbow Bridge. We wish you comfort and love during this most difficult time and send you a long distance hug. You are in our thoughts and prayers.

Ruby, Sydney, and Duncan in Virginia

Margaret C
6th January 2012, 03:09 PM
Dear Sins,

So sorry. No dog could have had a more caring owner.
RIP little Daisy.

anniemac
6th January 2012, 03:14 PM
Sins,

I am so sorry. I logged on to check and have been thinking of you. Run free Daisy of pain. You will be missed.

susandavis1
6th January 2012, 03:46 PM
Oh I'm so sorry Sins. I had been thinking of you all morning and hoping for positive news. I am heartbroken for you. Daisy had such a caring and loving home and knows how much she was loved. Run free sweet Daisy.

Kim N
6th January 2012, 03:49 PM
I've just come across this today and immediately thought of you and Daisy...


I Haven’t Left At All


I saw you gently weeping as you looked through photographs
You paused for just a moment at one that made you laugh.
But as you turned more pages the tears began to flow
You whispered that you missed me but I want you to know;
I softly licked those stinging tears that down your cheeks did fall
I want to help you understand I haven’t left at all.
On those days that you are overcome with sorrow, pain and grief
I rest my head upon your leg to offer some relief.
When you take our walking path I’ve seen you turn around
Because I know you surely heard my paws upon the ground.
At night while you are sleeping I snuggle at your side
You stroke my fur as you touch that place where I used to lie.
You said it’s just your heart playing tricks upon your mind
But rest assured I’m really there, my spirit’s left behind.
I know your heart is hurting; it’s like an open sore
You think my life has ended and you won’t see me anymore.
But for those of us bound tight by love, death is not the curtain call;
It’s really the eternal beginning that waits for us all
So as you live your life I patiently await
For us to be together when you pass through Heaven’s gate.

linderbelle
6th January 2012, 04:03 PM
Crying and hugging you Sins reading Kim's post and I'm at work wiping the tears. Somebody posted this on tuesday--I can't believe it's only been 2.5 days since my dear Abbey lefts--seems like weeks.

A 'SPECIAL PLACE'
You have a special place Dear Lord that I know you'll always keep
A special place reserved for dogs when they quietly fall asleep
With large and airy kennels and a yard for hiding bones
With maybe a little babbling creek that chatters over stones.
With wide green fields and flowers for those who never knew about running freely under
Your sky of perfect blue.
Lord,I know You keep this Special Place
And so to you I Pray, for one Special Cavalier Who quietly died today
She was full of strength & love and so very, very wise.
The puppy look she once had had long since left her eyes.
She is dearly missed my Lord by her Mom & Dad.
She went to join her family in Your land that is Devine
So, speak to Daisy softly please and give her a warm hello.
She's a Special gift to you Dear Lord from her mommy, who loved her so.

Run free sweet Daisy.


I printed this out on pretty paper and put Abbey's picture on the bottom and it sits on my desk at work and I have read that poem probably 50 times in the last 2.5 days and I look at that pretty picture of Abbey and remember how she was. I do not want to rember the end Abbey Hugs Sins--I'm here for ya as you know and we can help each other.

Linda

dellis
6th January 2012, 06:16 PM
i am so sorry for your loss. x

jasperpaw
6th January 2012, 06:21 PM
I am so very, very sorry Sinead, have been thinking of you today and hoping for a happier outcome. Rest in Peace little Daisy, you were very much loved.:hug:

Sandrac
6th January 2012, 07:29 PM
So very sorry to hear that you had to let Daisy go to Rainbow Bridge. Her memory will be part of your heart always.

Blondiemonster
6th January 2012, 07:42 PM
Desperately sorry.. Run free sweet daisy.


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Desrae
6th January 2012, 09:30 PM
Oh sins, I'm so so sorry. Have fun at Rainbow Bridge, Daisy. :lotsaluv:

Kate H
6th January 2012, 09:47 PM
So sorry, Sins. The kindest thing for Daisy, but these last few days have been like a bolt from the blue for you and your family, which makes it even harder.

Thinking of you :hug:

Kate, Oliver and Aled

Tania
6th January 2012, 10:12 PM
Sins, I am so so sorry. Daisy was a lucky little girl to have you in her life to love and care for her. My heart goes out to you.

Hugs from all of us :hug:

pippa
6th January 2012, 11:47 PM
:( so sorry

HollyDolly
6th January 2012, 11:53 PM
Oh my goodness Sinead I am so so sorry.

No one could have been a better mum to Daisy and I know you have been to hell and back with her.
Rest easy little one.

Nanette

Charlifarley
7th January 2012, 09:44 AM
I'm so sorry to read this Sins. Daisy had a great life with your family and I'm sure you are all devastated.
Daisy and Abbey are probably comparing notes together now in heaven and I'm sure they are both saying what wonderful lives they had with their families in spite of their illnesses.



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Sabby
7th January 2012, 12:31 PM
My heart aches for you. So many Cavaliers have to leave far too early.
I am sure Daisy is with all the others at Rainbow Bridge and running like the wind.
Sending lots of
:hug:

lindylou
7th January 2012, 02:14 PM
hi
so so sorry to read about daisy another broken heart
if roses grow in heaven lord
please pick a bunch with care
and place them in daisy's paws
and tell her we all still care

linderbelle
7th January 2012, 03:52 PM
crying Charli but Abbey did have a very good life -- my vet sent sympathy card and got it yesterday and one thing he wrote "he heart was as big as a great dane's".

Nicki
7th January 2012, 09:50 PM
Sins you and your family are in our thoughts - I know you had probably tried to prepare yourselves but that doesn't make it any easier. Daisy was blessed with a loving, caring and knowledgeable family who always did everything they could to take care of her and gave her so much love.

She brought so much to your life too and in time the happy memories will comfort you.

I'm going to copy the thread across to In memoriam so that Daisy can be with our other angels.