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islewriter
15th February 2012, 11:54 AM
As some of you may know, my Kirra :l*v: was born in Ireland.

A beautiful country and wonderful people. They brought me my Irish Princess
:l*v::l*v::l*v:

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So where was your Cavalier King Charles born?

meljoy
15th February 2012, 04:43 PM
My Leo was born in Norfolk, UK. Our little country bumkin!

cavalover
15th February 2012, 04:45 PM
My Butters was born in toasty Tennessee (U.S.), and now lives with my husband and I in chilly Buffalo, NY (also in the U.S.)

Sydneys Mom
15th February 2012, 04:53 PM
My Sydney was born in Sydney, Australia.......and that's how he got his name!

sins
15th February 2012, 05:09 PM
Both Holly and Ivy were born in Newton Abbot,in Devon UK!

Sins

susandavis1
15th February 2012, 05:45 PM
Darcy was born in Co Meath, Ireland. It is the Royal County after all !

Brian M
15th February 2012, 05:52 PM
Hi

Poppy comes from Llandudno, Wales
Daisy from Betws- y - Coed, Wales
Rosie from Barnsley, England
Lily is from Glasgow, Scotland
Brian is from England but parents from Ireland and Wales so he is a bit of a mongrel

Autaven
15th February 2012, 06:23 PM
Izzie was born in Wakefield, England.
George was born in Peterlee, England.

Always forget they're little English dogs :) wonder what they would sound like if they could speak now!

pippa
15th February 2012, 07:13 PM
Darcy was born in Co Meath, Ireland. It is the Royal County after all !



So were Gus and Pippin, DJ is my rescue boy think he's Dublin born...like me! :)

Sabby
15th February 2012, 07:16 PM
My three were born only 20 minutes away from me in Leicester. That was when my Harley was only a baby and my Ebony still had beautiful long ears.

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lindylou
15th February 2012, 09:39 PM
my louie was born in sacriston co durham

Charlifarley
15th February 2012, 10:25 PM
Both of mine were born in The Sunny South East, in Co Wexford, Ireland.

islewriter
15th February 2012, 11:19 PM
How wonderful to see the Cavalier King Charles on the International stage :) Does indeed show the popularity of a much loved companion.

Thank you to everyone who contributed :)

ashleighelizabeth
16th February 2012, 02:06 AM
Sonny was born in Santa Cruz, California. :)

apwerner
16th February 2012, 06:54 AM
Forrest was born in Leavenworth, Kansas and now lives in Overland Park, Kansas :)

jasperpaw
16th February 2012, 09:57 AM
Both Jasper and Ollie were born in Devon. England.

Kathleen
17th February 2012, 10:38 AM
Thomas was born in Cape Town (not sure as he is a rescue) South Africa and my adopted girl, Gigi was born in Midrand (between Johannesburg and Pretoria), South Africa.

dellis
17th February 2012, 11:26 AM
daisy was born in wexford and macy in kilkenny, both good hurling counties, i have christened poppy a true blue dub as thats where i collected her from karlin!
on another note has anyone noticed the MASSIVE increase in cavaliers while out walking? i know in my area every other dog is a cavalier. but my other half says that i am responsible for that as walking three cavaliers tends to get alot of attention and certainly lots of smiles!:)

islewriter
17th February 2012, 01:23 PM
Delighted to see so many exciting places where your loving Cavaliers were born :)

I am also amazed at how many folk have blogs about their pets, great to read and a joy to view the many amazing photo's and videos too :)

denali
18th February 2012, 03:37 AM
Kokoda was born in Toowoomaba (a little town about an hour and a half from Brisbane), QLD, Australia and now live in Brisbane Australia :)

tara
18th February 2012, 05:20 AM
Holly was born in Ohio and now lives in Florida (both in U.S.)!!

MadeleineSarah
20th February 2012, 10:58 PM
Oliver was born in Devon. :)
He now lives in Leicestershire with me.

ByFloSin
20th February 2012, 11:41 PM
Rebel was born in Barnstaple, Devon
Winston Alexander was born in Hull, Humberside
Bubbles was born in Barnstaple, Devon
Little Joe came from Pendock Village, Malvern
and Holly Poppet was from Okehampton, on beautiful Dartmoor in Devon

Sabby
20th February 2012, 11:46 PM
Oliver was born in Devon. :)
He now lives in Leicestershire with me.

There are 3 of us from leicestershire on this Forum now. :thmbsup:

MadeleineSarah
21st February 2012, 01:50 PM
Oliver is from very near to Barnstaple. Umberleigh in fact don't suppose others from Devon or Barnstaple used the same breeder as me? :) Would be funny to know some of Oliver's relatives!! lol

@Sabby
Where in Leicestershire are you?
Oliver and I are from NW Leics a village called Whitwick. :)

M&O

jasperpaw
21st February 2012, 03:11 PM
There do seem to be quite a few dogs from Devon on here, Ollie came from Paignton, Devon, and Jasper from a small village near Teignmouth, Devon.

sins
21st February 2012, 05:11 PM
I used to work in Teignmouth years ago...in a different life...(last century)
I would hazard a fair guess that any dog bred in the west of England is related via the Homerbrent kennel.
Sins

ByFloSin
21st February 2012, 09:25 PM
Bubbles has lots of Homerbrent behind her from Paternal Grandfather backwards if you know what I mean. She also has a heavy Vanitonia presence.

Rebel has Homerbrent on his Maternal Great Grandparents' side, but a much bigger Tregarron/Chrisandawn/Manaking mix running throughout, with some Dubourg thrown in for good measure. His Gt, Gt, Gt grandfather was Tregarron Trafalgar, a dog who I watched ringside from a puppy and absolutely adored. I was thrilled one day when Betty Dowd asked me to take him into the BOB challenge and I can honestly say I have never handled a dog quite like him, until I got Rebel that is!

Holly Poppet was sired by Homerbrent Branscome crossed with Underknoll, with Homerbrent behind her too, but Vanitonia crops up there in several line breedings.

Getting back on track to what Sins originally said, I think the heavy Homerbrent influence in West Country dogs goes all the way back to the great Homeranne Caption, one of the most influential sires of all time. He was stunning and lived to a grand healthy old age.

Kate H
22nd February 2012, 06:07 PM
Further to many Cavaliers coming from an area where there was a notable breeder (such as Homerbrents in Devon), when I had a holiday in the Scottish borders a few years ago, I noticed an unusual number of Blenheims, and wondered if this was the long-distance influence of the Pargeter kennels, which were in the area. People who long ago bought a Pargeter Cavalier may have continued to keep the breed, even if these days the Pargeter connection is distant.

Oliver is a Yorkshireman, Aled comes from somewhere in Wales via Many Tears. My first two Cavaliers were South African, with a strong UK background, and the third one came from Staffordshire.

Kate, Oliver and Aled

Kate, Oliver and Aled

Reptigirl
22nd February 2012, 07:31 PM
Flash & his parents (Holly & Blitz) were born in Hot & Humid Texas! (USA).

Holly had parents from Ireland & the Slovak Republic. Her pedigree has several Biely demon dogs behind her as well as Moorefields & Glencross cavaliers. Some other names behind her include: Immenhof's Donovan, Immenhof's Movie Star, Bonema Gold Sovereign for Choya... and if you go far enough back (5 generations) she has a "Glenwood Dallas Texas". LOL I can't find much on "Glenwood Dallas Texas" but I wonder if he was from Dallas, Texas? Probably not, but I find it funny that Holly was born to a breeder not to far from Dallas, Tx.

Although Blitz was also born to a breeder in Texas (USA) his parents were both from Ireland. He has a few Homaranne and Trenaul cavaliers behind him.

MadeleineSarah
27th February 2012, 11:06 PM
Just watching PDE and it made me check Oliver's inbreeding coefficient and he has indeed got a lot of Homerbrent in him. Mainly on his maternal side, but a little on the paternal also.
The average Cavalier has an inbreeding coefficient of 5.2% and Oliver is 4.7% so not too bad I guess.
Has anyone else checked their dogs coefficient?

UK Kennel Club website tells you what your pedigree dog's COI is.
http://www.the-kennel-club.org.uk/services/public/mateselect/inbreed/Default.aspx

Karlin
27th February 2012, 11:17 PM
That's a good figure! :)

However take the average and the KC determiner with a large grain of salt. I don't even think most breeders would think that the average coefficiant is anything remotely that low for cavaliers. When calculated properly I know many breeders have truly struggled to find matings with dogs where the COi wouldn't have been in the region of 15-20+% for offspring. Many show dogs would be quite high. I am not sure how much info is actually going into the MateSelect programme so far -- will see if I can find out how reliable it would be considered to be at the moment.

MadeleineSarah
27th February 2012, 11:27 PM
Thanks Karlin
I am very interested.
I was shocked to see so many Homerbrents are in his family tree as I must say when I was picking up my beautiful puppy I only glanced at it, was quite relieved he still had a below average COI! Phew!

Karlin
28th February 2012, 12:19 AM
Lots of the same name isn't necessarily a bad thing -- lots of breeders would be selecting very carefully. However some of these older lines come from a time when people would have done very close matings at times. Often it is the dogs with different kennel names in their background that turn out to have a very high COI as many cavaliers turn out to be closely related.

My main question about MatSelect is how many cavaliers are actually in the database to provide an accurate COI. Some of the online pedigree databases for CKCS did COIs too and they generally (on average, for dogs I looked at anyway!) produced higher COIs than the KC stated average.

Autaven
28th February 2012, 12:32 AM
My George's COI comes out at 2.2%.

As you said Karlin, I do think this is a good number but I'm unsure as to whether or not it means a lot if not every dog is in the database.

CharliesMummy
28th February 2012, 01:41 AM
my charlie was born in beverley,hull in UK...
i got him at 8weeks last of the litter :)

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MadeleineSarah
28th February 2012, 07:38 AM
Do you not think that the KC will have all dogs in the database enabling them to calculate the COI?
You have to register a pedigree dog?
Maybe they only use the 6 generations on his pedigree certificate which is flawed but they must know how every dog on the sheet is related if they were all registered?

meljoy
28th February 2012, 11:38 PM
Just watching PDE and it made me check Oliver's inbreeding coefficient and he has indeed got a lot of Homerbrent in him. Mainly on his maternal side, but a little on the paternal also.
The average Cavalier has an inbreeding coefficient of 5.2% and Oliver is 4.7% so not too bad I guess.
Has anyone else checked their dogs coefficient?

UK Kennel Club website tells you what your pedigree dog's COI is.
http://www.the-kennel-club.org.uk/services/public/mateselect/inbreed/Default.aspx

Ive just checked Leo's and he's 4.8% Like its been said not sure how "true" this is.

3cavies
2nd March 2012, 04:59 AM
My girls, Maggie & Roxie were born in Alabama and Jackson was born in Utah.