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Tania
20th March 2013, 01:56 PM
I would normally post this under SM/MVD section but I didn't want to get in the way of more pressing threads.

I have just watched this video on The Epic Trial and also looked at Rods website. I would be very interested in opinions.


https://www.epictrial.com/

and

http://www.cavalierhealth.org/editorial.htm#April_23,_2011

MomObvious
20th March 2013, 02:46 PM
So I read the EPIC trail site first, I read pretty much the whole thing and my question while reading it was ok what about side effects of this drug????? and what is preclinical stage of MMVD?? A heart murmur that does not require medication yet? I believe in clinical trials, my own son has participated in a big one in the US recently (for boys getting the HPV vaccine)

Then I read Rod's site and had my questions answered. Personally, I will participate in ANY trail that does not require me to GIVE anything to Fletcher or requires too much personal info. A DNA swab, info on his coat, nail clippings whatever.... I think its bad that the EPIC trail site has NO information about possible harmful effects of this medication. Yes, we all want a cure for heart failure but basically killing other dogs to find out if maybe this IS the wonder drug????? Really, could you image if some researcher came out and said "hey we think we can cure breast cancer if we could just kill 2000 women to see if it works"??????????

Margaret C
20th March 2013, 04:44 PM
If I had a cavalier suitable for this trial, I would want to check out the implications with a cardiologist that I really trusted.

anniemac
20th March 2013, 05:22 PM
I would not participate in this study because of Rod's editorial and also things i read about giving drugs like this one too early. I'm sure either pat or rod know all the details. I thought medication should generally not be given until congestive heart failure.