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sunshinekisses
11th November 2014, 11:26 PM
here is a link to a fundraiser to save puppy mill cavaliers. Breeder/owner rockcliff farms and birchaven cavaliers is auctioning off her dogs. Rescue groups are trying to raise enough funds to purchase these dogs to keep them from the hands of other greedy puppy millers.
http://www.gofundme.com/puppymillauction

sunshinekisses
23rd November 2014, 02:35 AM
just an update on the puppymill auction. Thanks to all the support all the cavaliers were rescued. Now I am going to send in an application to adopt one of these babies. :)
Here is a link for more info. http://www.operationcavalierrescue.org/

RodRussell
23rd November 2014, 02:57 AM
just an update on the puppymill auction. Thanks to all the support all the cavaliers were rescued. ,,,

This is not quite the report I have from an eyewitness. The prices were enormous. To put it in perspective, Terri's non-cavaliers, a couple of Cockers, went for $370.00. Other breeders' non-cavaliers sold for $200.00 to $650.00. The cavaliers went for many times as much, up to $6,200.00 for female cavaliers. There is is a real possibility that the auctioneer pretended to be getting competing bids. Reportedly he looked at one spot in the bleachers after each bid by a rescuer, and then stated that he had another bid. My witness could not identify any real person he was looking at.

Sydneys Mom
23rd November 2014, 02:57 AM
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If I could LIKE this post more than once, I would. Can't wait to see who your new baby will be. That is going to be one very lucky cavalier.:thmbsup:

Jay
23rd November 2014, 03:24 AM
This is not quite the report I have from an eyewitness. The prices were enormous. To put it in perspective, Terri's non-cavaliers, a couple of Cockers, went for $370.00. Other breeders' non-cavaliers sold for $200.00 to $650.00. The cavaliers went for many times as much, up to $6,200.00 for female cavaliers. There is is a real possibility that the auctioneer pretended to be getting competing bids. Reportedly he looked at one spot in the bleachers after each bid by a rescuer, and then stated that he had another bid. My witness could not identify any real person he was looking at.

If this is the case, then the auctioneer needs to be reported and should have been called out then and there. I have no doubt that prices were jacked up because they were aware of the amounts of money being raised. The dogs were saved and in the end, that was the goal. Mission accomplished! The people on the ground are to be commended for a job well done. I can't imagine the stress they went through today. They were awesome. I have never seen anything like this before. I got notice that more funds were needed this morning and I sent in another donation. I came back later in the afternoon and there were 30 more pages of donations. I, for one, am so happy today that all the cavaliers and the little cockers were saved.

Kate H
23rd November 2014, 03:29 PM
Something needs to be done about the whole situation. All the American Kennel Club seems to have done is take the puppy mill lady off the list of Breeders of Merit. She has benefited from the auction (sounds as if the auctioneer was a friend) and now is apparently selling her house, with a number of breeding Cavaliers as part of the deal - ie she is selling a puppy mill as a going concern. The whole thing has hugely benefited this lady, even if the first concern was to get those Cavaliers out into good homes. Are the AKC or local authorities going to do anything to prevent her starting up again in a different place?

Kate,Oliver and Aled

Jay
23rd November 2014, 04:35 PM
Something needs to be done about the whole situation. All the American Kennel Club seems to have done is take the puppy mill lady off the list of Breeders of Merit. She has benefited from the auction (sounds as if the auctioneer was a friend) and now is apparently selling her house, with a number of breeding Cavaliers as part of the deal - ie she is selling a puppy mill as a going concern. The whole thing has hugely benefited this lady, even if the first concern was to get those Cavaliers out into good homes. Are the AKC or local authorities going to do anything to prevent her starting up again in a different place?

Kate,Oliver and Aled

Apparently, she isn't a Breeder of Merit. I looked at the AKC Breeder of Merit listing on the AKC website and her name is not listed. Other people have also speculated that her AKC inspection paper that she posted on her website was also a phony. What I have heard is that the USDA is forcing her to shut down by Feb 15. I don't know the terms. She is certainly in the cross hairs of a whole lot of people. If you see the reviews on her Facebook page you will see that people are not holding back on their opinions. I have a feeling she will be watched carefully and anything posted on social media will be met head on.

Kate H
23rd November 2014, 09:57 PM
Good! I hope people will keep following her up and not let her get away with starting up again somewhere else. Public opinion and watchfulness can sometimes be more effective than official action...

Kate, Oliver and Aled

UrbanYogini
24th November 2014, 08:58 AM
So glad they were able to rescue them all. In addition to donating financially there was also a wishlist on Amazon for supplies I did both and urge those who feel odd sending cash to consider ordering some supplies for the cavalier rescues from their wish list.

Here is the link should anyone want it: http://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/wishlist/3LE8T038H5AK5/ref=cm_wl_rlist_go_v?

RodRussell
24th November 2014, 03:18 PM
This was on Facebook this morning:
From Ron D Sturgeon
Fort Worth, TX

"Are We Winning the Battle But Losing the War? Reflections on Rescue Groups’ Bidding at the Missouri Auction
"I have been following the news of the auction of King Charles Cavaliers that took place in Missouri and the efforts by many in our rescue community, especially the Alabama Chapter of Cavalier Rescue USA, Brittney Wilk, and the Greater Birmingham Humane Society, to save these dogs.
"Thanks to them, scores of our beloved breed will eventually be in forever homes and be cared for by people who love them. Many gave their time and money to make sure that rescue groups acquired every single King Charles Cavalier.
"Joey Kennedy, on AL.com, reported on the condition of the dogs. Many had flea infestations, some had eye and ear infections, and a few had intestinal parasites.
"I own three King Charles Cavaliers, and I have fostered more than twenty over the last several years. I am an enthusiastic, long-time supporter of Cavalier rescue groups.
"I’m worried that we may have won the battle for the 95 or so in Missouri, but that we might be inadvertently losing the war to help the breed. There is a reason the US government doesn’t pay ransoms. It’s to prevent perpetuation of further kidnappings and funding terrorist organizations.
"I am not writing to criticize anyone who was part of saving these Cavaliers. I’m writing to invite members of our rescue community to think about what we are doing and where we are headed.
"It’s an iron-clad rule of economics that if you subsidize a behavior, you will get more of it. The money that we have raised and spent to buy these dogs will encourage future auctions.
"Think about this: The last two Cavaliers purchased in Missouri reportedly cost $25,000. Even though rescue groups worked together, what they did made the auction much more lucrative for the breeder who shut down.
"We all love our Cavaliers. We would go to the mat for them and regard them as priceless. We will never understand a person who would mistreat a dog while breeding it for profit.
"Let’s not fool ourselves, though. The puppy mill owners are watching what happened in Missouri, too. Some may hold their own auctions and invite rescue groups. Some might even think about gaming the system and buying some King Charles Cavaliers from reputable breeders expressly to auction to rescue groups for twice of three times what they paid.
"On the other hand, going to the auction and buying every Cavalier did a world of good. It raised awareness about mills. It raised money for rescue. It changed the lives of 95 dogs.
"We would like to save every King Charles Cavalier. They are precious, every one. However, we don’t have unlimited resources.
"Knowing the right thing to do isn’t as simple as it seems. And I am not sure I know what the right answer is. I am only inviting those who care about Cavaliers to think about the issues.
"The rescue groups’ buying all the Cavaliers at the Missouri auction will probably encourage puppy millers to auction more. Even worse, the unscrupulous are sure to notice that the more abused the dogs have been, the more we are willing to pay to save them.
"My goal is for the rescue community to get the best results with the resources we have. Consider what we could have accomplished if we had spent $500,000 (the reported amount raised by several groups) to draft model legislation against puppy mills and to push for changes in the laws in state legislatures? Or, if we had spent it to do a public relations campaign to expose the evils of puppy mills.
"What would be the best long-term way to use our resources to get the best results for the breed we love? Do you think we are at risk of winning the battle but losing the war?
"I won't even ask anyone to think with their pocketbook instead of their hearts. And I won’t ask you to confuse this issue with the love of your individual dog, which is priceless. But let's think with our hearts on behalf of what's best for the breed and worst for the puppy mills, and not confuse this discussion with our devotion for our own cavalier babies which are indeed priceless.
"I like talking about solutions, not problems. I stand ready to make a significant donation to rescue to be earmarked for legislative activities to provide draft language of a bill that passionate volunteers can present to their state legislator to regulate and or penalize those that breed dogs inappropriately, while protecting quality breeders.
"We may disagree, but we should discuss and debate these questions. They are important to everyone who is involved in Cavalier Rescue. Please post your thoughtful and professional comments. Now is the time to have this discussion, while people are aware of the situation and passionate about these issues. The sooner we start collaborating the sooner we can find a solution and path forward, while minimizing the financial incentives for the breeders at these monthly auctions.
"Please share this post whether you agree or disagree, adding your comments, so we can expand this discussion among passionate stakeholders."

sunshinekisses
24th November 2014, 05:50 PM
puppy mill auctions have been going on for a long, long time and until US laws change they will keep happening. I do not like the idea of rescue groups going into an auction to "save" the dogs. IMO it adds to the cycle, but this was a one time deal that was more of a political statement from the US cavalier rescue groups. There was cavalier people trying to work with Terri and help the dogs. Terri decided to try to benefit financially instead of doing what was right. In the end these dogs were saved and it wouldn't have happened without going public and gaining the support of all the wonderful people that donated. This isn't going to start a trend of rescues going into auctions, it happens already, it just isn't public knowledge. Buying out a whole auction doesn't happen and I don't ever seeing it happen again. Hopefully the added publicity will educate the buying public about what really happens when you buy a cheap pup over the internet.