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Linda
16th November 2005, 02:26 PM
I had been feeding Dudley Innova EVO for months, I went to purchase
somemore a while back and the uneducated employee scared the
pants of me, (well not in the store) :D :D :D
He informed me it causes kidney problems, I have tried ever other kibble
on the market and he does not seem to eat it he will hold out for 2 to 3 days I decided to try giving him the EVO again and he gobbled it up.
Has anyone in United Kingdom ever heard of this.
I am going to switch him back to raw, which he was originally eating
about 1 year ago. How do I introduce the raw if he is presently just
started eating EVO again ????????????????

I am concerned about just giving him straight EVO as it is protein based
so how do I get the veggies in, I heard that if the veggies are not
pureed the dog does not get any nutrients from them.
I also called the company about the coments the employee said to me
about EVO they advised this is not true. I remember when I was feeding
completely raw, whenever I would take the chill out of his food in the
microwave he took off, that is why I stopped I am thinking of trying
another brand.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.

rory
16th November 2005, 04:38 PM
I just started feeding my pups a dehydrated food from Honest Kitchen. Our holistic vet recommended it. It looks really great and the dogs love it. It's wet, not kibble. See if you can get a sample from the company. If not - I can mail you a packet to see if Dudley likes it.

http://www.thehonestkitchen.com/

GudrunTheRed
16th November 2005, 04:50 PM
Rory's Mom, which of the dehydrated ones do you give Rory? I see they have 3 different kinds: Verve, Force and Embark.

Do you feed them just this food or do you add other ingredients to it?

rory
16th November 2005, 05:17 PM
Since it's so expensive, I'm currently mixing it in w/ other food. More variety that way, also. I'm going to pick up canned Innova. I have the turkey one right now (Embark?). It has no grain, which may help w/ my lab's allergies, too. .

The 4lb tub has 43cups in it and they advise 1cup day for dogs under 20lbs. And I think it resales for about $43? So not too bad. a dollar a day! But my lab should get 2 cups/day, so that puts me at about $90/month which is a bit high for this starving student. ;)

GudrunTheRed
16th November 2005, 05:22 PM
Since it's so expensive, I'm currently mixing it in w/ other food. More variety that way, also. I'm going to pick up canned Innova. I have the turkey one right now (Embark?). It has no grain, which may help w/ my lab's allergies, too.FYI, Chester LOVES the Innova canned. I buy the little cans and put 1/4 can in with his dry food and he gobbles it all up. I will try the Embark and see how His Highness likes it.


The 4lb tub has 43cups in it and they advise 1cup day for dogs under 20lbs. And I think it resales for about $43? So not too bad. a dollar a day! But my lab should get 2 cups/day, so that puts me at about $90/month which is a bit high for this starving student. ;)Thanks for the info. I will give it a try.

Give Rory a bug hug from me and a lick on the nose from Chester!

Linda
16th November 2005, 05:26 PM
Hi Kendall
I called them they and left a message, what luck they actually have
a supplier in Canada that is 5 minutes from my house.
I am going to see if they can give me some samples.
I don't care what it costs as long as it is good for him and he likes it.
Going to see the possiblity of a 2nd Cav in a few weeks I am so excited
I want to try and get Dudley settled on a food before purchasing a
puppy (Mom should be in season anytime)
But she has a tri that she is just waiting to see if he is show potential

Will give me a feel to see how Dudley reacts.
Thanks Kendal, I have had a lot of feeding issues or manipulating issues
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Like the fact it has no wheat.
I told my son Daniel whom is a Celiac and allergic to wheat/gluten
that Dudley is Celiac also. icon_yikes
Thanks you are always full of knowledge for a starving student
you do a great job with your doggies.
Linda
My kids just love that picture of Rory on that pumpkin.

Linda
16th November 2005, 06:46 PM
Hi Kendall
After spending much time on the phone this afternoon I was able
to find a supplier, it is about $50.00 Cdn for a 4lb bag. They don't
have samples, and the supplier that is close to my house only has
it in 10 lb bags I am not buying one of those until I am sure he likes
it, the receptionist is going to ask her boss to call me tommorow
to see if I can get a sample.


Have you ever heard of another raw based food made by NRG
apparently it is the same except less expensive.
I can't find their website.
Linda

Linda
16th November 2005, 06:52 PM
Oops Kendall
I found it, it is www.nrgpetproducts.com
have a look and see what you think.

rory
16th November 2005, 08:43 PM
The NRG diet looks good. I don't know anything about it personally.

Let me know if you need a sample of the Honest Kitchen. My holistic vet gave me a sample packet, so I know they exist. Too bad the distributor doesn't have them. Hopefully the company can mail you one?? If not, I'll mail you a sample.

Hope Chester likes it, GudrunTheRed! (p.s. WHAT does this name mean???)

Cathy T
16th November 2005, 10:02 PM
A great many people in my club feed Honest Kitchen and swear by it. I don't feed it only because my guys are so doing so well on CA Natural and it took so long to get them on something that agreed with them. The gal who heads up Honest Kitchen came and was a guest speaker at our club. They really know their stuff!!

Linda
16th November 2005, 10:13 PM
Thanks Cathy, He would not eat the California Natural Chicken & Rice
I am keeping my fingers crossed that he will like the Honest Kitchen
and I also feel good knowing it is good for him. I am not saying CNCR
wasn't but the little rascal will not eat it their goes another bag of kibble
into the garbage. Oh well
I will try adding wet if I have to, I prefer him to eat raw.
This boy is icon_drivingcar me crazy icon_yikes
I hope they will give me a sample, otherwise Kendall has offered
to send a sample.
Thanks again

rory
16th November 2005, 10:29 PM
A great many people in my club feed Honest Kitchen and swear by it. I don't feed it only because my guys are so doing so well on CA Natural and it took so long to get them on something that agreed with them. The gal who heads up Honest Kitchen came and was a guest speaker at our club. They really know their stuff!!



I noticed the stuff was from San Diego!!! A big selling point for my husband. ;) He loves supporting local (or hometown) companies/products! :)

Linda
17th November 2005, 06:16 PM
Kendall

I called the Cdn Whse this morning, they are going to supply me with
some samples, but they have no instructions and the receptionist
did not speak the greatest English.

She is going to leave it outside for me, as they close before I can
get over to pick it up, how do you mix it is it even or half water ?????

I tried calling the manufacturer in the States but no answer, I did leave
a message but I would like to try if tonight if I can.
Unfortuantely they only have 10lb bags I really would prefer a 4 lb bag
I spent most of the day trying to find a pet store that sells it no luck
so far.
They don't seem to know when they will be getting smaller bags,
you would think they would have them not everybody has huge dogs,
I know you have both but it would take me forever to finish it.

If you happen to see this post could you let me know how to mix it
and with what etc.,

I appreciate your help Kendall, I have a feeling this might be the
food for him.
Linda

rory
17th November 2005, 06:21 PM
It's 1cup dry mix to 1.25 to 1.5cups of water.

It says for a 10-20lb dog, give 1cup (dry) a day. For more active 10-20lb dog, give 2cups a day.

Linda
17th November 2005, 06:54 PM
Thanks Kendall,
What a carry on, she is putting the samples into white plastic bags
The company in the States will ship me a 4lb container but I then
have to pay duty and shipping.
If he likes it they have a 10lb container here apparently The Honest
Kitchen is trying to find a new Canadian Supplier.
I don't think they are pushing it enough for them, anyway I thank you
once again and I will keep my fingers crossed that he likes it.

Maxxs_Mummy
19th November 2005, 03:06 PM
Thanks Cathy, the little rascal will not eat it their goes another bag of kibble
into the garbage. Oh well

Thanks again

Linda, do you not have a dog shelter near you? I'm sure they'd be glad of the food. Everytime Maxx has wasted food I take the remnants to our local dogs home - they never refuse it :D

Linda
19th November 2005, 09:03 PM
Hi Maxx's Mom


Why didn't I think of that, I will call our local shelter as I have a
huge bag of Wellness and I didn't through the other bag out yet.
What a great suggestion.

Thanks :D :D :D :D :D

I will definetly give the food to them from now on.

cleopatra
20th November 2005, 07:52 PM
i feed my dog a dry diet called clinivet, and its making her so lively and healthy that i am thinking of eating it myself :lol:

Karlin
20th November 2005, 10:14 PM
That looks like a really good food; I see it at their stand at the national dog show each year. I think a UK brand?

Linda
23rd November 2005, 04:03 PM
Well I tried the Honest Kitchen with Dudley and you would think I was
feeding him poison. I even added raw ground turkey to it, nothing
he wanted nothing to do with it. :cry: :cry:
It's a shame, because it really looks healthy and has lots and lots of
veggies and fruits in it along with meat.

I took another trip to the petstore, and was lucky to find a employee
who fed raw. He informed me the fellow who advised me of the info
about EVO in the past, is not a believer of raw and that is probably why
he had such negative words about it.

He was a very helpful University student, and advised if Dudley is loving
EVO and chicken necks then stick with it, their is no difference except
for the preservatives. So I am feeling much better and I can see that
Dudley is also.
:D :D :D :D

JaneB
23rd November 2005, 06:52 PM
The breeder that I got Fauna from has been using Canidae food for years and swears by it. She also put us on to a supplement by Nu Vet. She has been using it for quite a while and believes it helps her dogs overall health and also keeps many of the skin and tummy issues at bay. For more info www.nuvet.com. I have spoken to the folks there and they are most helpful in answering questions and making suggestions.
JaneB

cleopatra
23rd November 2005, 09:47 PM
i get my clinivet from my nearest pet store which is called jollye,s in lurgan, but you can also buy it online and you can go to the clinivet home page and find your nearest stockist. i first heard about it while i was searching online for information on cavaliers, and a lot of cavalier owners/breeders have changed their dogs to clinivet and swear by it.
my little jasmine loves it and shes so healthy and her coat is shiny and shes the liveliest little pup i have ever seen. my husband keeps asking me if i am giving her drugs. :lol:

Linda
24th November 2005, 03:07 PM
i get my clinivet from my nearest pet store which is called jollye,s in lurgan, but you can also buy it online and you can go to the clinivet home page and find your nearest stockist. i first heard about it while i was searching online for information on cavaliers, and a lot of cavalier owners/breeders have changed their dogs to clinivet and swear by it.
my little jasmine loves it and shes so healthy and her coat is shiny and shes the liveliest little pup i have ever seen. my husband keeps asking me if i am giving her drugs. :lol:

I would love to try this food, but looks like it is shipped from the United
Kingdom.
The duty and taxes are ridiculous.
Dudley is looking to have more energy, I guess his system is getting
used to the EVO.
We decided not to get the little Tri Puppy who was absolutely a little doll.
I have had my heart set on a Ruby for a longtime, not too much longer
if she would only go into season. I am looking at May and that is
perfect timing for a new playmate for Dudley.

rory
24th November 2005, 03:50 PM
How exciting!! I'm sure Dudley will love a new puppy! No reason to get the tri if what you really want is a ruby. Only a few more months for a lifetime of love! :D I waited 5 years for my rory!! :shock:

Linda
24th November 2005, 04:19 PM
How exciting!! I'm sure Dudley will love a new puppy! No reason to get the tri if what you really want is a ruby. Only a few more months for a lifetime of love! :D I waited 5 years for my rory!! :shock:

Thanks Kendall

It was a extremely hard decision, this little guy was gorgeous and he
was also show quality but the lady who was originally going to take him
to show him ended up falling ill.
I know although I am disappointed, if I had gone to my breeder's their
would of been a huge chance I would of taken him.
Hubby thought it would be best not to go, plus it will be easier for me
to train a new puppy in the Spring as opposed to the Winter.

5 Years for Rory, boy oh boy he sure was worth the wait :D :D :D
He is precious, not only to you and your hubby but I believe to both
boards everybody has grown to love him so much.
I will pray for all of you tommorow, and have good thoughts.

cleopatra
25th November 2005, 06:41 PM
its a pity that it costs so much to ship the food from the UK to canada. i thought that clinivet could be bought anywhere....i wish i could help you.

Linda
25th November 2005, 06:55 PM
its a pity that it costs so much to ship the food from the UK to canada. i thought that clinivet could be bought anywhere....i wish i could help you.

It seems to be like that with a lot of things, funny they may eventually
bring it into Canada.
Thanks for your help though, he is settled nicely now he is eating his
EVO and in the morning he gets a raw chicken neck.
I also feel better feeding him raw, as his coat is much silkier and he
is all round healthier.
He know if he does not eat his EVO, he will not be getting any necks
in the morning.
I would love to order tons of stuff of the internet, but the shipping, duty and taxes cost more than the product itself.
Oh well I will have to go to the petstore and get Dudley some boots and
a winter coat we got about 6 inches of snow yesterday and it was -20
brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr it's cold.
How I long for Summer

cleopatra
2nd December 2005, 07:02 PM
i found out that clinivet might be available over there sometime in the near future, so lets hope so... :)

rory
3rd December 2005, 03:23 AM
We had the VP/co-founder of Natura (makers of Innova and Evo) come talk to my class today and he spoke specifically about the high protein diets (i.e. Evo). he gave a reference which I wrote down and left at school of a study that demonstrated that high protein diets do NOT cause kidney failure. Thought you'd appreciate that, linda. :)

Linda
4th December 2005, 04:03 AM
We had the VP/co-founder of Natura (makers of Innova and Evo) come talk to my class today and he spoke specifically about the high protein diets (i.e. Evo). he gave a reference which I wrote down and left at school of a study that demonstrated that high protein diets do NOT cause kidney failure. Thought you'd appreciate that, linda. :)

Hi Kendall

Thanks for thinking of me, he really likes EVO and is eating it really well.
It is comforting to know that I am not giving him anything that could eventually harm him. icon_banana icon_banana icon_banana icon_banana