I am so sad to hear about Elton. You already had to deal with so much last year.
Yes Ebony had what Pat is talking about and when they MRI Scanned they found 3 degenerated disks and CM/SM.
Praying for a good out come tomorrow.
Wow! Dr. Brofman said Elton does NOT have any malformation at all! He said he is in the 1-2%. He is putting him on anti seizure medication because he feels the video I took is him having a seizure. He is sending his MRI to a radiologist to have another look to make sure because it is so rare.
Karlin, would his DNA or MRI be useful for research? I don't have a pedigree or anything but didn't know since he has NO CM! (or SM)
Wow,Isn't that just the best news !
So pleased that he had a great scan and that you don't have to deal with this again.
That's wonderful news. So happy for you and Elton!
I think maybe Clare might want to check the MRI regardless. There are either a surprising number of dogs without the malformation in the US at the moment, or the neurologists there, who are not as familiar with the malformation as some of the original researchers, are misdiagnosing either due to head position or whatever (and I have to say that radiolof=gists are actually LESS skillful than neurologists familiar with dog MRIs for this condition, in my experience -- I know several radiologists who have misread scans and missed the malformation when even I could see it on one or two of those scans -- dog MRIs read completely differently than human MRIs for the malformation, according to Clare). It is becoming a bit of a concern as a lot of breeders in the US -- actually just about all of them -- self grade their dogs (as there's no equivalent grading programme in the US -- the clubs really need to push for one!) and are not likely to submit scans to the UK grading programme. Hence a lot of misinformation about clear dogs and clear lines is likely going about. The dogs are too closely connected to UK dogs for there to be any reason for there to be these clusters of clear dogs in the US so I a sure there would be interest by researchers to read MRIs and see if they too would grade these dogs as malformation-clear.
If he doesn't have the malformation the DNA may be useful but as there's no pedigree that may not be the case -- you will need to ask Clare directly.
I am sorry he is having seizures but hopefully that is something more easy to control. Kind of wonder why they didn't try medication for seizures though as MRIs are so costly? It would have seemed one of the things to eliminate first. But on the other hand you have more information now.
This issue of whether a malformation is there could be important as there's a mistaken assumption that only dogs with severe malformations have pain when actually, a lot of the dogs with CM pain have been dogs with quite mild malformations.
This isn;t to question the skills of individual neurologists, but as with any illness, not everyone around the world is always on the same level of familiarity with diagnosing aspects and the malformation is far more complex and can be extremely subtle and even head psoition on a scan can make a difference in visibility. Interpreting the malformation is more a skill than syrinxes, which are easier to see.
He also did a spinal tap. He does have a little bit of hydrocephalus and I asked if he had dialated ventricles and he does. He showed me the MRI and I could see the cloudiness.
So he is waiting for the spinal tap to see what's going on if anything. Thank you for your responses. There looks like fluid in his brain and that maybe what's causing some issues. They will know more from spinal tap.
On a plus side, the cardiologist said his heart sounded good.
Anne, that is fabulous news. I am going to keep a positive attitude, and continue to pray that they find out exactly what is going on with Elton. But the fact that he doesn't have SM is major.
Keep us up to date.
I would bet he has mild CM especially since he has fluid in his brain and dialated ventricles (I asked thinking of Kate H). I just don't like how he scratches himself until he yelps. I just hope they figure out what is causing him discomfort.
He wants to treat the seizure activity first then look at the hydrocephalus?
Congratulations to Elton. That is a real relief!