15th June 2006, 05:20 PM
15th June 2006, 07:11 PM
Gillian, I think this may be whole peanuts as there is a danger of choking from them - like with small children.
Originally Posted by Gillian
Lulu, I do give a multivitamin supplement, one from www.healthspan.co.uk, esp for Rupert due to his age, as they don't digest things as well, also for TedBear as he doesn't always eat very well. I think with a homeprepared diet it is a good idea, just to make sure they are not missing something.
As you know I'm a big fan of Monica Segal and do think she knows what she is talking about, so would believe what she says, she's not just trying to sell you something - as you can see from what she said about the fish.
18th June 2006, 12:00 AM
I got a bag of Missing Link but haven't started giving it to Zack yet. I am going to start giving it to him tonight. It's a multivitamin multimineral supplement in powdered form, which is sprinkled on their regular food. I will see what Zack thinks of the taste of it.
Here's a link to the company that makes it
if you scroll down, they list the food ingredients in it, and then if you follow the links, they go on for several pages, giving a lot of detail about the nutrients, vitamins and minerals, in each food ingredient. you click on where it says "see our glossary for specific information."
18th June 2006, 10:41 AM
Judy, that Missing Link is supposed to be brilliant, many of the holisitic vets recommend it
Forgot to mention re the peanut butter...TedBear will only have the CRUNCHY variety, spits it out if it's the smooth one
not really spoilt then!!
18th June 2006, 06:15 PM
thanks for that feedback nicki
i sprinkled a little bit on zack's dinner last night. i cant' say for sure if it's the missing link that he likes the taste of, or if it's because yesterday i decided to give him some canadae kibble, he has had merricks grammys pot pie kibble for a few weeks exclusively and i think he was bored with it, so i poured some canidaes in his bowl on top of a llittle bit of uneaten merricks that had been sitting there, and he wolfed down the cadidae (leaving the merricks). so later at his evening feeding, i put more canidae in the bowl and he started chomping on it immediately. I then sprinkled on a bit of missing link, and when he went for the food, he noticed a difference because he stopped and sniffed it for moment. Then he went back to chomping it down hungrily, and he finished the whole bowl. Some of the missing link powder had gone to the bottom of the bowl, and he licked all of that off, so i would say zack's verdict is that missing link tastes fine.
because of the high quality nutrients in it and the powdered form that tastes good, i can recommend it, especially if giving pills is a hassle for anyone.
i'm planning to get missing link for my cat. There is a missing link Plus which has stuff for joint health, like glucosamine, and omega 3 and 6 EFAs, but apparently they don't make that for cats, only for dogs. i wonder why.
19th June 2006, 04:36 AM
the vitamin tablets i give King from Dr. Foster/Smith work so well....the smell draws him to his bowl bout twice as fast as his normal food....normally he walks over to wait, but wit the tablets he runs and sits impatiencently... dancin wit in sit position...looks so funny.
19th June 2006, 08:17 PM
We'll I got Dudley's vitamins in the mail today and they are huge.
I just gave him one, as once again he is holding out.
I had to hold his mouth together until I was sure he swallowed it as he
was licking all the peanut butter of it and the pill was popping out.
Monica said to give these 3 times a week, but he is not eating again.
No Nicki Frank has not given him anything.
At least I have one eating machine, funny thing though he will eat Darby's food.
He is eating Innova, was thinking of maybe switching his kibble to the
Adult Innova Kibble mixed with Monica's food.
This boy is driving me round the bend, although I have not let on.
19th June 2006, 08:28 PM
that reminds me of karlin saying getting a second dog cured any hesitance about eating. the psychological cure, the power of territoriality, possessiveness and jealousy. maybe dudley can be motivated to eat by allowing him to think he is getting away with something by eating Darby's food.
i feel for you Linda.
19th June 2006, 08:36 PM
Originally Posted by judy
I honestly thought introducing Darby would of been easier, I am sure it
will get better. But Dudley has manipulated us from the beginning, I have
had enough food in this house to open a Pet Store at times.
I worry that he is not getting the nutrients required when he plays these
games. You would think he would be falling down the drain by now.
If I do go get the Innova Adult food to mix with Monica Segals it will be the
Do you all think I should give him one a day until he stops these games
as he does not have much energy.
He is drinking though.
19th June 2006, 09:20 PM
i think it seems things will only get worse the way things are going, and he leaves no choice but to let him go without eating until he becomes ravenous enough to eat whatever simple choice of food you give him, but that seems easier said than done with a second dog around. yet maybe that will actually make it easier because everyone else will be eating except for him.
i don't have any expertise to say this is the right thing to do, i'm a newbie at this. i know that when i was trying so many different foods, trying to find something zack would eat, things were not improving, and were possibly getting worse, as far as him not eating much, and the stress i probably conveyed to him about it.
so there was really nothing to lose in just picking out one brand of kibble and giving it to him, and leaving it up to him to eat it or not eat it, knowing i'd done my part, just by providing edible nutritious dog food. i had some faith that he would get hungry enough to eat it eventually.
as it is, he did eat it, from the beginning, though still not eagerly, and i think if i follow karlin's suggestion and pick up the bowl and put it away after 15 minutes until the next feeding, he will come around even better, but although he's not thrilled with his food, he does eat plenty of it every day with numerous large poops to show for it, so i'm cool. i'm lucky i haven't had to deal with the worry of him refusing to eat for days. Knock on wood. As you said, it has to be a matter of pulling out of the game, because it does turn into a game, my move, your move, checkmate.
Is Dudley's weight OK, or is he getting too thin?
What does monica say? She's so experienced with food issues. What does she advise, if he stops eating what she has prepared?