Page 3 of 6 FirstFirst 12345 ... LastLast
Results 21 to 30 of 51

Thread: unusual behavior

  1. #21
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Kansas
    Posts
    925
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    I'm sorry Zach isnt feeling better. Poor guy. He always seems to have a rough time of things.

    I'll be thinking of the two of you!!

  2. #22
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Santa Monica CA
    Posts
    1,906
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    I'm at work, the vet office called and said my appointment for 6:30pm had to be cancelled. So i made one for 2pm. i just emailed the links to karlin's site to the vet. i'm bummed because i need to take off in the middle of the day and go pick up zack in the opposite direction from the vet and then take him home and then come back, this is not a day when i can take off. I'm off all week next week and need to tie up loose ends and stuff. but if the vet can just do something to make zacky feel better, i'll be happy.

  3. #23
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Posts
    4,153
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Judy,

    I don't know what time it is over there with you but I hope things went OK. Before Maxx was formally diagnosed as having SM by an MRI scan, my Vet put him on Prednisone, Frusamide and Rimadyl. This won't affect the scan results but may possibly help to relieve Zack's symptoms if he does have SM.

    Let us know how you get on. Big hugs to you both

    XXXXX

  4. #24
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Santa Monica CA
    Posts
    1,906
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    thanks for the good wishes.
    zack is still in bad shape. all he can do is lay down, he won't go out to pee, it seems like something is wrong with his legs, weakness maybe because he's not showing pain signs or sensitivity. Like, when i take him outside, he takes a few steps and then lies down. when i got his harness and leash to take him to the vet, usually, he's very eager to go out, but he just laid down at my feet when i had to stop and pick up something. i carried him down the stairs.

    he's very affectionate, wants to kiss all the time. he's normally affectionate but this is more. he wants to lay on me. he likes to be stroked.

    when we got to the vet he really perked up because he knows other dogs might be there. there was another little dog there and zack was very excited, tail wagging like crazy, straining toward the other dog, but not as strong as his usual pull on the leash.

    the vet couldn't find anything wrong with him, unsurprisingly. She hadn't seen my email. i told her i sent the links to the SM stuff, and she expressed appreciation for that, and listened to what i said about people saying it sounds like SM, she was well aware of the frequency of it in this breed and she took the possibility seriously. she was already feeling his backbone before i brought up SM. she felt him all over and said he didn't seem to have any pain. yet while we were talking he started wimpering. she said 'is this what he's been doing,' and i said 'no, he's just doing it right now.' it was a different kind of whimper from what i've heard before.

    i told her about the brewers yeast, garlic, diatomaceous earth, and the neem oil. She said maybe the combination of all those things threw him off. She gave him subcutaneous fluids, she said maybe it would wash him out, he had a big bulge on his neck from the injected water after but now it's gone.

    She said she could do a blood panel but thought it would probably not show anything, and he just had one when he was neutered. but he didn't have these symptoms when he was neutered, so i asked her to go ahead and do it. it was my call. at the time of the neuter, it was expensive, $110, so i figured i could deal with that. But when i got the bill from the visit today, the total was $320 $180 of it was the blood panel. geez. I asked the guy about it, after it cost $110 at the time of the neuter and he said "The prices just went up a couple of weeks ago." wow.

    i'll be making an insurance claim. i wonder if they will pay a claim without any diagnosis.

    the other things i paid for were, she expressed his anal glands, her idea, i asked them to clip his toenails, and the cost of the exam, and the subcutaneous water. She also washed out his ears, but there was no charge for that.

    so...he's the same. He hasn't been out to pee since this morning and he had all that water. He declined my invitation to go out when i got home. The door is open if he wants to go. At least if he peed in the house whle i was gone, i haven't seen it. I had to take him home and go back to the office for almost 4 hours. He still doesn't want to walk or stand up, he still is licking his paws a little. the vet didn't find any sign of any illness on him.

    something is really wrong with him. he's not acting in pain, but just very lacking in any desire to walk or play, which is so abnormal.

    Since i got home, he has a weird odor, i dont' know how to describe it. I wonder if it could be from the subcutaneous fluids.

    the vet said if he didn't improve in the next day or two, she would do acupuncture on him.

    i hope she will read the stuff i sent about SM.

  5. #25
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Santa Monica CA
    Posts
    1,906
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    i just looked up garlic--in Wikipedia it says onion and to a lesser extent garlic, has theosulfate which can cause hemolytic anemia in dogs and cats.


    i'm glad i had the blood panel done.

    She said his heart was clear.

  6. #26
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    San Diego, California
    Posts
    8,700
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Gosh Judy. Sorry you're having such a rough time. It's so distressing when they don't feel right and no one can figure out what was going on. One night Jake really through me for a loop. He was very lethargic. I ended up sleeping in the spare bedroom with both of them (so I didn't wake up hubby). Jake was extremely clingy...had to be touching me all of the time. Then when I put him down on the floor he wouldn't move. He yelped when I touched him. Just really odd behavior. Of course I rushed him to the vet as soon as they opened. You know what...he had gas!! The reason for him twisting up funny and yelping was intestinal distress. The next day he was back his normal self. You never know. Keep us posted on his condition.
    Cathy
    Loving mom to Jake, Shelby and Micah

  7. #27
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Santa Monica CA
    Posts
    1,906
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    cathy, thank goodness it was gas--poor baby. i can picture you sleeping with them--not knowing what it was, or what might happen. It's like they come to us, thinking we can fix it. that's hard, to not be able to help.

    i sure hope whatever it is with zack will pass and he will come through it and be his usual self again. something is really really wrong. I think he is worse each day. the first day, he was still running around and playing, and was just acting abnormally off and on. By yesterday, the second day, he was laying around all day. I got him two new toys, haven't got him new toys in a long time. he played with them for a minute and then laid down. He did go pee in the morning right away, but unusually, he peed on the patio instead of in the grass. In retrospect, i think he didn't want to walk a little farther to make it to the grass. today, he didn't want to go out at all, though he still showed a little interest in the possibility of a squirrel in the tree, he looked up. i was afraid he wouldn't go before i had to go to work, but then i asked him to go out again and he did, and he peed, but very little. i hope his kidneys are ok. he hasn't been drinking but his appetite is really strong, not for his kibble, he isn't eating that at all, but yesterday and today i gave him a small can of Canadae and he really wolfed it down, and he wanted more when he was done. i wasn't sure whether to let him eat all he wants. i am in unknown territory.

    he isn't licking his feet or rubbing his head and body much anymore, it seemsl like he doesn't have the energy. He just lays and sleeps. i'm so worried about him.

  8. #28
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    Davis, CA
    Posts
    778
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Gosh, judy -- He does NOT sound good... I don't know what it is, but he is obviously not well. That's disappointing that the vet couldn't find anything wrong. Hope the bloodwork shows up something. The smell you are smelling is probably from the anal glands or the ear cleaning. The anal glands smell "fishy". Very distinct odor.

    If he gets worse, I would take him in to the emergency hospital for fluids and observations. It could be anything. Is he still eating? Drinking?
    Dogs are not our whole life, but they make our lives whole.
    --Roger Caras

  9. #29
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    Ohio
    Posts
    9,165
    Post Thanks / Like
    Blog Entries
    4

    Default

    I hope Zack is feeling better soon. So many times I wish our pups could tell us what is wrong. Its good that he perked up at the vets and that he wants to eat.

    Has Zack been pooping normally even though he doesn't want to pee?

    You said he was chewing on a cup, was it paper or plastic? Could he have swallowed something that will not pass out of his system?

    India sometimes behaves like you are describing, wanting to lay down and not wanting to pee, and in her case it always seems to be related to her urinary tract. We have to monitor her for pH, crystals, UTIs.

    Also, a she had a tummy ache once that made her want to lay down a lot.

    Please keep us updated on how he's doing.
    Cathy Moon
    India(tri-F) Geordie(blen-M)Chocolate(b&t-F)Charlie(at the bridge)

  10. #30
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Santa Monica CA
    Posts
    1,906
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by rory
    Gosh, judy -- He does NOT sound good... I don't know what it is, but he is obviously not well. That's disappointing that the vet couldn't find anything wrong. Hope the bloodwork shows up something. The smell you are smelling is probably from the anal glands or the ear cleaning. The anal glands smell "fishy". Very distinct odor.

    If he gets worse, I would take him in to the emergency hospital for fluids and observations. It could be anything. Is he still eating? Drinking?
    thank you for clearing up the smell--it must be the anal glands because it's fishy. hopefully it goes away eventually?

    about eating, normally if i open the cabinet door where his food is, he is all over the door and trying to get into the cabinet. Today, he just lays there and looks at me. but when i took the can in to where he's laying on the sofa and held it in front of his face and asked if he wanted some, he got up and got down on the floor--slowly, gingerly, and came into the kitchen. When i put the food down for him, he wolfed it, he ate it eagerly, very eagerly. When he was done he wanted more but i'm going to wait til the morning because he is not really eliminating. No poops since day before yesterday i think. All he ate yesterday was one small sized can of canadae food, not much quantity-wise. but he only had one poop yesterday and none today. Usually he was having about three a day.

    at least while i've been home, he hasn't drank any water. He had an injection of fluids at the vet's office. She is in all day tomorrow and Sunday and Monday, so from the way it looks right now, we'll be going back to see her soon.

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •