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    Poor Charlie has been very itchy the last couple of days so I bathed him and then re Stronghold'ed him but still he won't settle.

    This morning when he was on my lap I noticed lesions on the top of his legs and his bib so, tonight off we went to see Uncle James....

    He found loads more of them on his tummy & tail, poor love they are popping up all over

    Looks like he might have an allergy so we've had some blood tests done and tomorrow I have to pick up some anti-histamines for him. These lesions look really similar to the ones Zack has in his picture

    If it's not an allergy we're off for an MRI scan just to double check that it's not SM and he's biting himself where he's itchy with the pins and needles feeling

    Please everyone, send him your healing thoughts. I think he's been through enough in the two years he's been on this Earth and he's only just feeling settled

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    Oh don't do an MRI if he has little lesions! Then it is certainly something causing the bumps and SM won't cause bumps like that. I am sure it is an allergy or something he has encountered recently if this started all of a sudden.

    PS can you try him on a little benadryl?
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    Sorry Karlin, I wasn't very clear then was i? He's been itchy and scratchy on and off for a while but has now come up in these lesions. James isn't sure if it's an allergy - hence the bloods. OR if the bloods come back negative then he thinks it could be where he's been biting himself - we'll just have to wait and see what the tests say....

    Fingers crossed eh?

    I wondered about Benadryl but which one is safe for dogs? There are two - acrivastine formula and cetirizine formula!!!!

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    I'm so sorry to hear about charlie's itching and bumps!
    it does sound quite similar to zack's symptoms of the past week.
    it's pretty certain that what zack has on his skin is pyoderma. in fact, i would say it's as certain as anything. his bloods showed acute infection, and something chronic too although #2 vet said that was normal, no follow up ?

    the bumps on zack are hard and rough and irregular. the area around is pink but not swollen, the diameter of the pink area isn't very big. i would say they don't look dramatic, but they feel quite distinct and pronounced. The centers are grayish yellow, what today's vet called 'pustular.' it's a bacterial infection (someone told me it's usually staph). It's almost always secondary to something else. Today's vet (#3) who describes herself on her website as a skin specialist said her theory is that it started with fleas. the weather has just gone hot, and the fleas always come out at this time. she said probably fleas attacked him and then he got a skin infection. she said he definitely does not have a flea allergy (thankfully). she actually didn't say anythnig about allergy or immune reaction--just fleas and infection.

    Could charlie have any fleas in recent weeks?

    In zack's case, benadryl has seemed to be helpful. I didn't know there were different formulae, and don't know what kind i have. I got it at the drug store, it's a generic brand, and it says on the box it's for children. I would like to learn more about there being different formulas. Is it a safety issue?

    The vet said 25mg. According to the box instructions, that is high for his size (if he were human) but i read on the web last night that antihistamine treatment for itching dogs is rather effective, the main problem being sometimes a high enough dose is not given, or not enough is given. I gave it to zack when he got itchy Tuesday night and he settled down after that, and didn't itch again until today, right after we got back from the vet.

    i sure hope his scratching isn't from SM. In the case of zack, he itched and rubbed his body agaisnt things and licked his paws for almost 3 days before the bumps emerged. good luck donna, i really feel for you and charlie. is he acting ok other than scratching, no general systemic malaise, i hope?

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    If Maxx has been scratching more recently, it would support the same diagnosis for him as Zack has. Maybe poor Maxx has had fleas--causing the scratching--and then the lesions/infection appeared.

    Hope Maxx is just suffering from fleas and an infection. Not that I wish him ill, but it sure beats SM!!

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    Hi Judy,

    Thanks for posting. First off, Charlie has had no fleas that I have noticed and I dose him with Stronghold every month anyway as we get lots of hedgehogs and birds in our garden as well as the odd cat so I am always a bit iffy about fleas and ticks anyway!

    Charlie's bumps do sound identical to Zack's He's been a bit off in himself over the past few days and he also feels really hot to the touch - not what I'd call a normal heat as the weather has been scorching. He's still eating anything and everything though, unlike poor darling Zack.

    Could you have a look at your Benadryl box for me and see what the active ingredient is please? I can go and pick some up from the chemist tomorrow but as I said we have two formulations here - cetirizine and acrivastine I don't want to make him worse!

    I too am hoping it's not the dreaded SM - I already have one dog with it

    How is Zack doing now? Is he any better? I hope so, I really hate to see them poorly, it really upsets me

    Moviedust - Maxx hasn't got fleas either but he's already got SM - we found out last year and he's on Frusemide for it - I wouldn't wish it on anyone or their baby

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxxs_Mummy

    Moviedust - Maxx hasn't got fleas either but he's already got SM - we found out last year and he's on Frusemide for it - I wouldn't wish it on anyone or their baby
    Oh, sorry to hear that. So much for being hopeful and not having SM.

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    It's OK !!!! It's Charlie who's poorly now and tbh I do suspect SM - we'll see what the bloods come back with.....

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    First off, Charlie has had no fleas that I have noticed and I dose him with Stronghold every month anyway
    Then it wouldn't be fleas, i would think. Unless he got bitten before the flea died, if that's possible, i don't think it is. but maybe it could be a spider. I am having a hard time thinking it was fleas with zack because when the symptoms first started, i looked all over him and could not find any sign of fleas no bites, no dirt, no crawling ones. The vet checked him over two days later and said no fleas on him. A second vet saw no fleas on the 5th day. The first time i started seeing fleas on him, coinciding with the temperatures going up, was Monday, the 6th day. so i dont' know about the flea theory. it's possible that from the brewers yeast, garlic, neem oil and diatomaceous earth, fleas were not staying on him but may have still bitten, but i didn't see bites, nor did vets.

    Charlie's bumps do sound identical to Zack's He's been a bit off in himself over the past few days and he also feels really hot to the touch - not what I'd call a normal heat as the weather has been scorching. He's still eating anything and everything though, unlike poor darling Zack.
    The appearance of the bumps is what suggests pyoderma which just means a bacterial infection of the skin--as opposed to hives or various other kinds of bumps. Apparently it can develop resulting from any number of things, like something that would cause an imbalance of the normal fauna of the skin where usually different organisms keep each other in check.

    About Zack's eating, one thing was dramatic to me. During the worst of his prostration, when he did eat, because i gave him canned food, he ate very hungrily and eagerly, so i don't think his stomach was off at all. It's normal for him to act standoffish toward kibble. It just seemed like he didn't want to stand up, unrelated to his stomach. I thought he felt hot too. the vet said temp was normal.

    Could you have a look at your Benadryl box for me and see what the active ingredient is please? I can go and pick some up from the chemist tomorrow but as I said we have two formulations here - cetirizine and acrivastine I don't want to make him worse!
    Uh oh. mine doesn't mention either one of those! For the active ingredient, it says diphehydramine HCI. That's all. It has a bunch of disgusting sounding inactive ingredients like red dye and stuff. The pharmacist said it was definitely Benadryl, even though it was generic so it didn't say benadryl. I checked on a box labeled benadryl and it said it contained diphenhydramine. It's alcohol free.

    i just checked google--acrivastine is a nondrowsy antihistamine which carries the benadryl label. I'm confused. I did a search for 'generic benadryl' and it says diphenhydramine. but there is also something called Benadryl that doesn't have diphenhydramine, only acrivastine, and Benadryl Plus which also contains pseudephedrine (decongestant). I couldn't find cetirizene as benadryl at all.

    How is Zack doing now? Is he any better? I hope so, I really hate to see them poorly, it really upsets me
    It's the worst. thanks for asking about zack. I am afraid he's suddenly gotten worse. i'll put that in another thread. sigh. but glad that it seems not to be SM. i will hope and pray that charlie has something else, not that.

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    Oh Poor Charlie Warley...so sorry to hear this Donna, what a month

    I hope it is "just" skin inflammation, I know you've had your suspcions about SM for a while though.

    Good luck with the blood tests...but I wonder if it would be worth having an MRI, at least you'd know then?
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