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    I had my scans done by Mr Skerritt in Chester, part of the low cost scheme -- hsi machine isn't as good as Clare's. He did outline the results and the options for treatment but did note that a proper consultation and/or decision to opt for surgery would be a separate consultation and MRI.
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    I had all my scans done at different places.

    A mobile scanner in Swindon where I live x 1 scan
    A mobile scanner in Bristol x 3 scans
    Chestergates x 1 scan.

    In all mobile clinics results were then sent to my vet in about 5-7 days.

    All different prices from £175-£1350

    I must honestly say the best I had was at Chestergates under the cheaper breeders scan scheme even though it was for a pet dog. I received a quick pre consultation and a longer one after when we viewed the clear scan picture, I was also given the scan and certificate for this price. Well worth the very long drive.

    I often phoned them at Chestergates when I had others affected living with me and always received a call back the same day from a neurologist with time to talk with me.

    hope this helps.

    Alison, Wilts, U.K.

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    I was very interested to read a US breeder make a post to one of the SM discussion lists this week to note -- rather unhappily -- that more puppy buyers were asking about SM and what they were doing about it, then asked about MVD and heart clearances.

    To that, I say, 'hooray!'. MVD remains a major breed issue too, and buyers should always ask, but I think it is right to talk to every breeder about SM as well. Many feel the time isn't yet right for them to be scanning, for many different reasons, but a breeder should never have an issue with explaining their stance for a buyer to consider and weigh. The fact that so many buyers are now asking, confirms the power of the internet to make information available to many (thanks to Google and other search engines of course too!) and many people who have spread awareness to their vets etc. I would say it took *years* for puppy buyers to learn about, and start asking about MVD, which really would have arisen as a known issue thru the MVD breeding protocol just as the net was beginning to go mainstream.

    When I think of how hard it was to find anything at all on SM in the beginning -- my motivation for creating a centralised source of info on my sM site (and there are several other places now too with info) -- I am really in awe of how rapidly the net can get information out there to people.

    I always have believed that it would be the financial pressure brought by puppy buyers that would gradually push breeders towards MRIing or at least, learning as much as they can about SM so that they can say what they are doing in their breeding programmes and why (or why not). The very same happened with MVD. There are always those really committed to the breed who will of course try to do what is best and make informed choices (and I do believe that informed choice will eventually be be to scan). But for the rest, a financial carrrot (or stick) helps.

    YOU are that carrot. Keep asking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karlin
    I always have believed that it would be the financial pressure brought by puppy buyers that would gradually push breeders towards MRIing or at least, learning as much as they can about SM so that they can say what they are doing in their breeding programmes and why (or why not). The very same happened with MVD. There are always those really committed to the breed who will of course try to do what is best and make informed choices (and I do believe that informed choice will eventually be be to scan). But for the rest, a financial carrrot (or stick) helps.

    YOU are that carrot. Keep asking.
    Karlin,

    On that note, when I got Maxx I paid a lot more for him than a lot of the other breeders were offering their pups for. this was because both his Mum and Dad were heart and eye clear and his breeder had also had patellar and hips scores done too - all by specialists. I was able to see all the certification and she didn't hide anything from me.

    Maxx is 7 in a few weeks and SM wasn't really known about then like it is now (and I'd never heard of it) so I didn't know to make any checks on it.

    However, now that I do know about it, I would be prepared to pay extra again if the breeders were scanning Mum and Dad and possibly pups too.

    I think most people who want a healthy dog who will be part of their lives for as long as possible would be prepared to do the same.

    I know that I also have Charlie who came to me needing a home and plenty of TLC and medical care but that is a different issue. I could never refuse a rescue Cavalier a warm lap and the love and care they deserve. I doubt that many Cavalier lovers could - I mean, look at you and Lady Lily and all her predecessors

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    Donna,

    I know what you mean...

    I took my rescues because I simply refused to pay a large sum of money for a Cavalier that had not had scanned parents....after the loss of two I wanted to find parents that had been scanned...to give me the best possible chance of avoiding this condition again. I
    t's not 100% fool proof, we still don't have enough data about pups from clear/clear parents, but you have to do your best. You have to follow the information and what is advised. A short while ago it seemed impossible to find breeders with clear dogs/bitches with litters on the way... now it is up and coming.

    SM wasn't an issue for me with the rescues...giving them a home was the most important thing...yes so sadly one was affected but I couldn't ask for anything more than that from where she came from...lets face it a puppy farm wouldn't have the first idea about nutrition let alone SM, hearts, eye testing etc etc.
    I would certainly expect more from an educated caring breeder who was fully aware of the SM facts, I would expect scanning to be second nature and paramount.

    I myself would like to see all breeding stock scanned, especially with the problem as huge as it is, surely we shouldn't be breeding from sick animals...surely we would want to give this breed a chance...how can that happen if breeders don't follow the guidelines....that is all we have at the moment are the guide lines...placed there for a reason...it's the starting point to which breeders really should follow.

    I could rant on and on about the subject which is so close to home, I feel so very passionate about the work in progress regarding SM. How I got so involved I can't really remember...it just happened over time...I care deeply about the Cavalier generation of today but much, much more for the future generations to come...

    If the general public ask for clear breeding stock then they will eventually get it.... please just ask.

    Alison, Wilts, U.K.

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