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    Hi Everybody, been away for a week and I got a bit of a scare.
    I had'nt really noticed this before, but while on holiday my youngest boy came running to me with Darby crying that something was wrong with his eyes. I pulled the lid back on his eyes and above the pupil on his eye he has some pigment, I spoke with a friend at our campground she advised not to worry I also called my Vet 1st thing this morning and they also said that it is not a problem.

    Anyone else's Cavs have this, he has had his eyes checked 3 times during checkups and the Vet did not say anything.

    I was just a bit worried and my motherly instincts were to worry.

    I also asked if this would affect his eye sight and they advised it would not
    but I also need to hear it from my back up team you guys.

    Anybody know why this happens ??????

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    Linda,
    I'm not quite sure what you mean by "pigment". Cavaliers have dark eyes but they are brown nd outside of the black iris you should see varying colors of brown. In fact, there was another thread about this very subject and you should check it out: http://cavaliertalk.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2868.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GudrunTheRed
    Linda,
    I'm not quite sure what you mean by "pigment". Cavaliers have dark eyes but they are brown nd outside of the black iris you should see varying colors of brown. In fact, there was another thread about this very subject and you should check it out: http://cavaliertalk.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2868.
    Monica

    I tried taking a picture of his eye, he was squirmy but if you look below you will see it is not the same as what is on Laura's website.
    Kind of looks like another line around the white of the eye.


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    This was posted from Laura Lang, phew do I feel better now.

    Yes, that pigment is not only normal, but strongly wanted for show dogs. We want those whites pigmented, not white!

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    That looks like his third eyelid to me. Look at him as he's falling asleep and you'll see his eyes roll back and the third eyelid (which has that brown border on it) will come up a bit to cover the white of the eye. On this page there's a drawing (not so good but it shows the 3rd eyelid in the corner) http://www.upei.ca/cidd/Diseases/ocu...0mbr%20abn.htm and it says the following:
    "The third eyelid is a triangular shaped structure in the inner corners of your dog's eyes that you may notice sometimes partly covers the eye. It consists of a t-shaped cartilage to provide support, and a tear gland. The third eyelid is important in protection of the surface of the eye, and in tear production. It is also called the nictitating membrane (or membrana nictitans) and haw."

    Chester has the same exact thing and it's nothing to worry about. I'm really irritated and surprised at your vet that he didn't explain the third eyelid to you...shame on him. Next time you see him make him explain it all to you.
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    Monica

    Thank you for your post also, I have copied both your post and Laura's and emailed my breeder.

    I am also annoyed that my Vet would not inform me, but of course I did
    not speak directly with the Vet but the receptionist.

    Although I am a bit confused now, as Laura is stating that this pigment is strongly wanted in show dogs and the website you posted states you should not breed dogs with this condition. I understand that not all show dogs are bred. Just a bit confused.

    Might really be time for me to consider changing Vets, as I do drive extremely far to this Vet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linda
    Monica

    Thank you for your post also, I have copied both your post and Laura's and emailed my breeder.

    I am also annoyed that my Vet would not inform me, but of course I did
    not speak directly with the Vet but the receptionist.

    Although I am a bit confused now, as Laura is stating that this pigment is strongly wanted in show dogs and the website you posted states you should not breed dogs with this condition. I understand that not all show dogs are bred. Just a bit confused.

    Might really be time for me to consider changing Vets, as I do drive extremely far to this Vet.
    The color in the third eyelid isn't a problem (it helps create a nice dark eye)-- they don't want you to breed dogs with abnormal third eyelids. Sandy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linda
    Although I am a bit confused now, as Laura is stating that this pigment is strongly wanted in show dogs and the website you posted states you should not breed dogs with this condition. I understand that not all show dogs are bred. Just a bit confused.
    Oops, I didn't actually read the website, I just forwarded it for the drawing of the eye. Sorry to confuse you...I didn't mean to!

    It sounds like Darby is just fine and I would take a deep breath and not worry. Here's a picture of Chester's peeper so you can see that it's the same as Darby's:



    LOL..you can see that a I had to trap him between my knees to get him to stay still!
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    Sandy

    Does it look like a third eyelid to you too or pigment in the white as Laura stated maybe I can try and get another picture of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GudrunTheRed
    Quote Originally Posted by Linda
    Although I am a bit confused now, as Laura is stating that this pigment is strongly wanted in show dogs and the website you posted states you should not breed dogs with this condition. I understand that not all show dogs are bred. Just a bit confused.
    Oops, I didn't actually read the website, I just forwarded it for the drawing of the eye. Sorry to confuse you...I didn't mean to!

    It sounds like Darby is just fine and I would take a deep breath and not worry. Here's a picture of Chester's peeper so you can see that it's the same as Darby's:





    LOL..you can see that a I had to trap him between my knees to get him to stay still!
    This is a really good pic of a third eyelid.

    And here I'll pick on my own dog-lol

    http://www.woodhavencavaliers.com/Katrina.html

    In Katrina's pic-- she has DARK eye color (iris)both eyes, she has dark eye rims- both eyes, her right eye has dark chocolate color third eyelid - but she has no muddy white (her white is very clean)-- Her left eye has muddy color white BUT a light third eyelid.

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