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    Max is the wee dog next to my Ruby. everyone that meets my dogs all love Max the most he is so placid compared tot eh others!! the girls are mad and demanding!!!!! like my kids really!!!!!
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    Fi,

    I am so sorry, I certainly wouldn't like to be in your shoes right now. I am sure though that whatever decisions you make for Max they will be the right ones.

    Sending you positive thoughts and gentle s for Max. I'm sure he knows how loved he is

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    He looks like a sweetie--I'm so sorry he and you are all going through this. Max is indeed very fortunate to have the family he has got. It's a shame that nothing seems to be helping him at this point. It sounds as if you have a caring vet who is doing his very best to advise you. {{{{Hugs to you all}}}}
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    I am really sorry to hear Max still has health difficulties; I know he has been through a lot.

    Is this Syd offering to do the surgery? And is this Syd's analysis of his ailment or the cardiac specialists?

    If it isn;t the cardiac specialist who did this interpretation I would hold off on making any decision til you talk directly to a cardiologist. To be honest I would NOT recommend having Syd do a surgery he has never done (no way in hell would I have anyone try a surgery on my dogs that they haven't done many times before). I would go talk to a cardiac specialist who has done it. I would seriously be weighing up what risks are there and what quality of life he would have after a surgery of this sort.

    You should also immediately contact Max's breeder with these results as they would be very important to their breeding programme not to repeat that same breeding, ever, and to probably never breed from any of the puppies from any of the same crossings.

    The only vets in Dublin I would trust with a serious surgery would be Anicare (three branches, the Blanchardstown office is state of the art and I think is the ONLY vet surgery in Ireland to qualify as a vet hospital designation). I would recommend talking to Susan, Tanis or Fintan at any of teh Anicare branches (they rotate between them) as they can give you a realistic picture. They are also very good on conditions specific to cavaliers.
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    Alternatively I would recommend Finbar or Adrienne at Beaufield vets in Celbridge. Both are very up on heart and other conditions in cavaliers.
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    oh Karlin, thank you, i had not heard of this place before and Blanchardstown is so close to me so will definatly look into it, he [syd] refered me to a vet [cardiac specialist] in Nutgrove. what Syd told me was recanting what this man ahd said to him. i do not know if Syd is thinking of doing the op or giving him to this Tom guy in Nutgrove, but like you i would be scared stiff for Syd to do it, even though i have the utmost respect for him and know he only has my dogs best interests at heart.

    re the breeder well theres a story... when Max got ill the first time wehn he was only a few months old i raang ehr to tell her of his illness, she was insulted adn told me it was not her concern.... more or less hung up on me.. i did no more but when he got this muscle desiese i felt it was serious fenough to get her to stop breeding from the parents... [and the reason i decided never to use Max as a stud] remember the battle i went through about getting him spayed but was glad when it was done, anyway i digress... when i rang her back she told me to stop annoying her she wasnt going to give me a refund, i tried to explain i didnt want a refund i just wanted to know were any other pups ill and had she noticed any of these symptoms, she told me in no uncertain terms her stock was fine and it was my Max who was ill, nothing again to do with her.

    I was shocked, and would deffinatly not have anything further to do with this woman, it is worring to hear of this attitude and im sure you will be upset by it as well.

    Thanks for your continued support.

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    I don't know the different cardiologists; most are based at UCD vet school, so am not sure if Tom is one of them or in private practice. I think I'd go for a second opinion anyway at Blanch; the numbers for all the Anicare branches are at Anicare.ie. They will likely refer you to UCD but explain the situation. They would be able to contact Tom for Max's records.

    Regarding the breeder: if she has IKC reg for her dogs I'd mention her to Evelyn and to the breed club generally as she shouldn;t be allowed to continue getting club registration with that attitude (she clearly isn't health testing nor giving any backup support to her puppy buyers). That is a shocking response and sadly is the attitude of many uncaring breeders.
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    yea i know Evelyn well and will definatly mention it to her next time we talk.

    I was told this Tom is THE cardiac specialist.... all teh top of the range equipment etc... looking into the other place you mention now
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    I am so sorry for your little man to be going through all this.
    Big hugs and kisses to all.

    How is max in himself ? if you were to go on this journey with him and have the op etc how would his other health problems be ? and overall quality of life ?

    I would try and spend some time alone with Max and ask him what he wants to do ? I think if you can find a calm place, give him a nice a massage and put all the options to him you will both manage to come up with the correct answer.
    Healing prayers and thoughts to Max, you and your family.
    This is not a position I would cope well with being in and I have a great admiration for your strength. Know whatever you do is ok as it is clear you are doing your best and that is all you can give.
    Luvzcavs xx
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    Thank you again for all your support, just to update you on this mornings call.

    I rang Syd and to over all thing is we do not have enough information for me to make an informed decision yet.

    I explained that from whar i had read addisons was nothing to do with what Max had and he agreed with me and said he too was confused, and we should rule out addisons and take teh heart as being a problem on its own.

    he said that if he has a pace maker fitted it would have to be a human one and he does not know the availability of getting one nor the cost nor if it is covered by insurance.

    He also said that Tom is the only cardiac specialist in Dublin Syd said that there are only one or two cardiac specialist in the country.

    In the mean time i have decided to start him on the drugs to try to speed up his heart, these are human drugs and Syd is ordering them in, Cloe gets her stitches out in the morning so i doubt he will ahve them by then.

    Syd is going to discuss with Tom what he feels the out come will be and the quality of life...

    so emotions on hold till i get more information. if you find any web site with information relating to this please let me know...

    F
    thanks

    Fidelma
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