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    Default Homecooked information from Monica Segal

    Monica (who is a member of our board ) has given permission for the following email to be crossposted so I wanted to include it here as I know many people are wondering about alternatives to store bought food, given the recent problems with commercial diets.

    I highly recommend visiting Monica's site as well, which is linked at the end.

    Although I receive a lot of private email every day, today's requests =
    are heart wrenching. Desperate to find a home-cooked diet to feed their =
    dogs that were kibble fed just a few days ago, people have been emailing =
    all day. I can't keep up with the emails, so maybe this can help. Please =
    find below, two diets, one for a healthy 20 pd dog and another for a =
    healthy 50 pd dog. These go against my fundamental belief that generic =
    diets aren't a good choice, but due to the food recall, just about =
    anything is better than feeding an unknown.=20

    These diets are cooked because that's what people have asked for. I =
    don't have anything against raw diets - just to make it clear Please =
    understand that I won't be tweaking the diets if your dog happens to =
    weigh 60 pds or 8 pounds or whatever. The booklets on my site would help =
    most people much more than these recipes, but these should help in the =

    I've taken into consideration that most kibble fed dogs, especially ones =
    eating foods containing wheat gluten, may have different food =
    tolerances. I've also considered that these dogs are accustomed to more =
    carbohydrates in the diet than what many of us feed. For these reasons, =
    these recipes are *not* indicative of my usual diets. They use =
    ingredients contained in many pet foods and are formulated to make an =
    easier transition. They offer no variety, which is also not the usual =
    way I go about things. However, people are asking for the simplest =
    recipe possible, and I'm trying to honor the requests.

    You may crosspost to other lists, if the list rules allow. My goal is to =
    help dog owners, so go ahead and post to your breed lists, breeder lists =
    etc - but please post this in it's entirety, or not at all.

    Please note that I have no way of knowing what supplements someone may =
    have access to, or what those supplements may contain. For this reason, =
    the supplements in these recipes are ones from my site, however, I am =
    not offering these recipes in order to boost sales of my supplements. =
    You can go to my site to look at what a supplement provides and buy a =
    product that's the same, or as close as possible, from another source. =
    Just be sure that you are not adding more minerals, and that includes =
    the iodine is various brands of kelp.

    The amounts of foods and supplements are per day unless noted otherwise. =
    The weight/measure of a food is the *cooked* weight/measure, not raw. =
    Where weight is noted, use a kitchen scale, not cup measurements. Cups =
    measure volume, not weight,

    For a 20 pd dog:

    4 oz chicken dark meat with skin, stewed
    1 oz beef liver - every 6 days
    3/4 cup enriched egg noodles
    1 TBS carrot (optional)
    3/4 tsp bone meal
    1/4 tsp. NoSalt (found in grocery stores next to table salt)
    1/16 tsp kelp
    5 mg zinc citrate or gluconate
    2 capsules, vitamin E -- per week
    500 mg wild salmon oil or flaxseed oil
    1 3/4 capsules magnesium citrate
    2 capsules, Multi Mineral Complex -- per week
    1/2 tablet, vitamin B compound, per week*

    * B vitamins are water soluble and excreted through urine. They should =
    be provided often, so feed 1/4 tablet twice weekly. Also, B vitamins can =
    upset an empty stomach. Always feed with food. Best bet: tuck it in a =
    hand held piece of food and feed as a treat.

    For a 50 pound dog:

    8 oz ground beef, lean, 15% fat
    1/3 oz beef liver
    7 oz brown rice (boiled as 1 part rice in 3 parts water until very, very =
    1 oz zucchini
    1/8 tsp NoSalt
    1/8 tsp kelp
    1 capsule, cod liver oil
    1 3/4 tsp bone meal
    2 capsules, Multi Mineral Complex -- per week
    1 tablet, vitamin B compound -- every 2 weeks
    2 capsules, vitamin E 200 IU -- per week

    These diets meet 2006 NRC recommended allowances. Nutrient requirements =
    are not linear to body weight. That is, a 100 pound dog does not have =
    the requirements of a 10 pound dog multiplied by ten. So, these recipes =
    would need tweaking to suit the weight of dogs weighing more or less =
    than noted, but they're a start. Feed as required to maintain healthy =
    weight - until you can change the diets to a more suitable profile for =
    an individual dog.

    Monica Segal - AHCW
    Author of: "K9Kitchen" and "Optimal Nutrition"
    Seminars by Invitation: Email
    Consultations ~ Diet Analyses ~ Quality-Tested Supplements
    Cavaliers: Tansy : Mindy Connie Roxy Neasa Gus
    In memory: My beautiful Jaspar Lucy Leo Lily Libby

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    Thank you Monica xox, thank you Karlin xox

    I'd recently reduced my dog's kibble intake from about 75% to 25%, but after the latest fiasco, I am hoping that I have purchased my last bag of kibble and am keen to compare different home prepared diets, either raw or cooked.

    Many thanks! I am off to check out Monica's web site.
    ~ Sam, Sonny & Beau ~


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