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    I took my nine week old to the vets & she weighed her as 1.3kg. Anyone got any ideas whether this is big or small for her age? She was the smallest in her litter & has grown but I am just curious.

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    That's pretty small for that age; but as long as the vet says that's OK then don't worry. They tend to all even out across the litter as they grow, wth adult size being the average across several generations, not just the parent size.
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    I don't suppose you know of anywhere that has a chart of average weights for growing puppies?

    She's perfectly okay, well, except for a slight murmur that the vet said would probably disappear. I am a little concerned about that given the obvious breed health concerns but the vet seemed content.

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    That is likely just a puppy flow murmur and nothing to worry about:

    http://www.thecavalierclub.co.uk/hea...arts/flow.html

    Well you can see some puppy weights if you go into Bruce's forum here on breeding a litter of puppies --

    http://board.cavaliertalk.com/forumdisplay.php?f=58

    the top thread includes weights taken at numerous times for two litters. All puppies grow at different speeds so there isn't reallya definite set of weights they should be at any given point. But if you look at Bruce's forum, he took last weights at 9 weeks and his puppies, which would be breed standard size and healthy weights (he is a show breeder), would all be around 2 kg or 5-6lbs at 9 weeks.

    Puppies would be the weight of yours normally at only about 3-4 weeks, so she is pretty tiny. Runts can start really small though and then they catch up with their siblings by adulthood.

    Here are Bruce's weights in pounds and ounces at 9 weeks:

    #1: 8.1oz birth; 5#11 oz now
    #2: 6.5 oz birth; 4# 6 oz now
    #3: 7.1 oz birth; 4# 15 oz now
    #4: 7.9 oz birth; 5# 2 oz now
    #5: 7.0 oz birth; 5# 9 oz now
    So the smallest is 4lb 6 oz which is 2.08kg
    1.3kg is only 2.86 lbs

    The largest pup at 5lbs 11 ounces would be 2.3kg or almost double the size of your puppy.

    In general after this, going from memory, puppies seem to add about a quarter to a third pound a week so about 120-140 grams weekly.

    The breed standard is 12-13 lbs to 18lbs (UK and US).

    As long as the vet feels your puppy is healthy for her size and eating correctly I wouldn't worry, just make sure she is getting a good quality food (eg I'd avoid supermarket foods). She'll probably start to cach up. Some cavaliers are under or over breed standard though so she may just be a bit small.
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    Oh thank you for this, I didn't realise she was THAT small. Hmm. I'm going to have to beef her up, then.

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    Actually they must gain more than I said -- think Jaspar was around 4.5lbs when I brought him home at 8 weeks, then was about 15-16lbs by one year.

    Unless your vet says she is underweight she won't need beefing up -- just feed normally. Overfeeding a small puppy will just give you a fat small puppy.
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    I would make sure that the puppy is at least a little chubby but not too fat. I like my pups to start to loose their baby fat when they are about six months old.
    I believe that your pup will mature to be small but that does not mean she will not be healthy. Over feeding her will not help her grow but do make sure she is getting a high quality puppy food. Personally, I would want something with at least 25 % protein.
    On a couple of occasions I have had very small puppy. In cases like that I like to keep the pup until 12 weeks just to make sure everything is fine and make sure they get a good start. In your pups case I would be very careful that the pup is eating plenty as it will need all the nutrition that it can get.
    Last year I had a pup that was quite small at eight weeks so I kept it till 12 weeks. The people that got the pup had it back to us for boarding a couple of months ago and he looked great. He was on the small size (around 10-12 lbs) but he was very healthy and had a beautiful coat and a wonderful personality.

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    Sorry, yeah, I didn't mean to suggest that I would want a little fat sausage of a puppy. I do pay close attention to what she is eating & when. I do think she will just be a small dog, she's not chubby but she isn't thin either.

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    I find it hard to guage just how much my puppy should weigh.I felt she looked too thin, despite following feeding guidelines. The breeder cautioned heavily against letting her get overweight and feeding scraps and titbits.So she's fed exclusively on Arden Grange dried food(breeder recommended).I upped her intake about ten days ago and she looks great now.But her breeder asked me last week if i felt she was a small dog because the final pup of the litter has just left and she feels the that they're going to be dainty girls.
    She weighs 8 lbs now and is 4 1/2 months old.
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    If you are unsure about your puppy's weight then check with your vet -- but in general most puppies will eat about a cup of food a day spread out over a couple of meals (3 meals until they are 4-6 months old, then two meals until they are 10-12 months, then they can stay on two or go to one). In my experience most people overfeed their dogs and most cavavliers I see are WAY too fat which puts a strain on their hearts. Most have no waist at all and people keep feeding them because 'they are hungry'. But this breed will almost always overeat -- they are one of about 5 breeds well known for overeating and being prone to obesity. So you want a healthy solid puppy but not a really fat puppy.

    If she is 8lbs at 4.5 months I doubt she will be 'dainty' -- she is likely to come in at the low to middle of the breed standard. Breeders shouldn't be breeding for 'dainty' however! A good breeder wants solid, healthy dogs of breed standard weight.

    I read a good tip today on a breeder list for gauging the correct weight for your dog. Make a fist. If you run your fingers over your dog's rib area and it feels like it does when you run your hands over the back of your hand, the dog is too fat. If the ribs feel like it does when you run your fingers across the knuckles on the back of your hand, the dog is too thin. If the dog's rib area feels like it does when you run your fingers across the fingers of your fist, below the knuckles -- the dog is in good weight.

    I also recommend reading:

    http://www.roycroftcavaliers.com/manualfeeding.htm

    on feeding puppies and check the pictures of fat and normal weight cavaliers.

    I regularly feed scraps, fresh fruit and veg, fresh cooked meat and home made stews to my dogs. They shouldn't get such things as extras (include the amount in the daily intake) but I think they add needed variety and REAL food to a diet -- dry food is highly processed with the vitamins put back in that are lost in the process of making it. The problem really is that people feed the normal amount for the dog and then add scraps and extras on top of this -- making for a fat dog. There are lots of different feeding options but advice from breeders is always a good starting point.
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