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    Hi Everyone - Some of you may remember me, I have Corgan, a 1 1/2 year old blenheim. Lately, he's been scratching his ear. Tonight he did it until he yelped. We cleaned the ear and it was perfectly clean - no infection. Also, he's been rubbing his whole face/head on the ground and scooting around, seemingly trying to scratch. I thought maybe he just needed a bath, so I gave him one and he started doing it again a few hours after the bath. I was really hoping he was scratching from an ear infection, but now I just don't know. If it were just the scratching, I wouldn't be suspicious - it's not that often/long that he does it. But, he's been doing the face-scoot for a couple of weeks now and I'm concerned. Does this sound like it should be SM? Are there any "tests" I can do at home to see if he responds in a typical "SM way" or anything?

    Thanks very much - I appreciate any information you can offer me.
    Jenni, Scott, Corgan (blenheim), Celti (Corgi-mix), and Luna (kitty)

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    Hi Jennie - I remember Corgan's so cute puppy shot with his butt facing the camera and his head turned back towards the camera. Please post a current pic so we can see what he looks like now!

    As far as the scratching, it could be airborne or food allergies too. Or fleas or other bug bites. For 2 of mine this is what it turned out to be.

    1) Merry - food allergies were making her scratch & once I cut out wheat, corn, chicken and beef she didn't scratch anymore. And before this, she scratched for 2 years straight, poor thing.

    2) Pippin kept scratching his ears this spring and I even had his ears checked out by 2 different vets. The first vet took my money and tested his ears and not mites, no infection - thank you very much. But Pip kept scratching his ears. So a month later I went to a different vet and he said it could be airborne allergies. He gave me a salve to put in each ear, daily for the first week and then once a week thereafter. Pippin stopped scratching!

    Good luck in your search for what is ailing Corgan.
    Charleen and Cav's: Pippin (ruby male), Merry (b&t female), Luke (blenheim male) & Jolly (tri male puppy)

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    Given this combination of things, you should start by taking Corgan to your vet -- not because this is necessarily SM but because he seems to be bothered around the face and hindquarters. Be sure to print out the recommended documents on www.smcavalier.com -- you will see which are suggested. Have a read through the "Is this SM?" section as it will list the things you need to try eliminating and address some of the questions you have asked.

    If your vet cannot find any reason for these behaviours -- allergies, infections, blocked anal glands for example -- then you will probably want a referral to a neurologist familiar with SM. The neurologist will want to check for PSOM (glue ear in cavaliers) and SM. The only definitive way to diagnose is to MRI. There are some clinical tests the neurologist can try but a vet will not be able to make this judgement -- you need a specialist. However many dogs with SM will not be exhibiting the limb weakness and pain areas (sometimes, yet) that a neuro would check for in a clinical exam.

    If you reach the point where you feel you need to see a neurologist, let me know and I will see if I can recommned someone in your region.

    The most common misdiagnosis for SM is allergies. On average neurologists say it takes over a year for symptomatic dogs to get correctly diagnosed because vets will keep treating the dog for allergies. So if you are not getting any results from treating for allergies, it is a good idea to see a neurologist. One problem is that some of the things people give their dogs for allergies -- like Benadryl or low level steroids -- will also lessen the symptoms if it is SM so it can seem as if the 'allergies' are being addressed. However with SM usually the symptoms usually will eventually return and worsen so this is one indication that a neurologist should be contacted.

    The SM infosite, www.smcavalier.com, will answer a lot of your questions. I have pretty much most of what is known about this condition there including a long list of possible symptoms, Dr Clare Rusbridge's information sheets, information on PSOM, etc.

    BTW it isn't abnormal for cavaliers to mush their face in the floor -- a lot do this. It's if it gets really odd or obsessive or seems to be because the dog is really bothered. Have a look at Chester's video in the videos section of the SM website and you can see a lot of the different typical behaviours.
    Karlin
    Cavaliers: Jaspar Lily Tansy Libby Mindy
    In memory: Lucy Leo
    Cavalier SM Information site:www.smcavaliers.com

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    Hi Jenni. I'm sorry to hear about Corgan. I can give you the names of some of the neurologists in our area. I spoke with a few before settling on the one we use now.
    Spencer and his mom, Whitney

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