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    Wish you and Harvey for the good news.... pls let us know...
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    Hope everything ok..xox
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    The vet thinks everything is fine!!!!

    He had gunk in his ears which the vet has given us drops for and he has also trimmed his nails - he said he thought the yelping was just because of his ears.... We obviously mentioned SM and he examined Guinness but said he didnt think that was the problem - he even told me off for looking at the internet, he said he was fed up with people going to see him convinced their pet had some major illness that they read about on the net.... I think we caught him on a bad day LOL he isnt normally like that, i have always thought him to be the best vet i have ever used.

    So time will tell i guess - if after the drops have been used and his ears are gunk free and his nails are trimmed he starts yelping again i will go back to see him!!!

    I would just like to thank everyone on here for all your advise and support - its good to know that there are other people out there that care and love their animals as much as we do ours!
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    Hmmm, I have problems with vets who think that simply because people find out information themselves, this is a problem. Sometimes it is the only thing that saves a life because vets keep insisting the probem is in the client's mind. Unfortunately about the ONLY way most people find their dogs have conditions like SM is from information ONLY available on the internet -- very few vets know about this problem (which is why I created the SM Infosite, which is *widely used by vets*. I am curious if your vet is indeed aware of the high incidence in the breed? That over 90% of cavaliers have the Chiari-like malformation --meaning their skull is already too small for their brain and placing pressure on the hindbrain -- and that probably 50%+ will develop SM over their lifetime? Most do not and find this quite shocking. This understandable lack of awareness -- because after all, vets are general practitioners, not specialists) -- is why I supply the downloadable sheets that can be brought into them. Just as a case in point -- my main vets that I use are one of the largest in Dublin with some of the most advanced hospital facilities in Dublin and they had never heard of this in cavaliers til I talked to them -- and all the vets in the practice came in to hear me explain it and go through my MRIs. I still know more than they do about the condition because I have read far more widely and keep up with the research. They don;t have time to focus so exclusively on an otherwise rare condition. If I had a vet tell me off for doing research to remain informed -- often better informed than them -- I'd leave that practice in a nanosecond. It is very belittling of your clients to hold that view IMHO and extremely condescending.

    I do hope you are only dealing with some basic ear problems. If you get a recurrence of the yelping, and the scratching doesn't go away, you mght want to get a second opinion from another vet. According to Clare Rusbridge the average time it takes to diagnose SM is nearly *two years* because vets keep insisting it is either ear infections or allergies even though the dog does not respond well to treatment for either of those conditions. It is veryimportantfor cavalier owners to be vigilant about this condition and to make sure their vets know what to look for.

    Your vet is absolutely right to start with the most obvious possibilities but I think you will need to be very proactive about pushing for further investigation if by some unfortunate chance, this treatment doesn't solve the problem.
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    Karlin, as usual, you so eloquently put what I wanted to say. Without yours and Rod Russell's websites I would never have know what was wrong with Spencer. I shudder to think that I could have left him suffering had I not been able to educate myself, and my general vet on CM and SM.
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    We're on our 3rd Cav now so are a little complacent sometimes as weve seen it all before. When you first posted about the yelping thing I was tempted to mention our experiences with that. All 3 of them at one time or another have done that and without exception they had an itch near their ear, scratched with sharp claws and hurt themselves- but they didnt understand why it hurt and continued to do it - and continued to yelp!
    I know its not very sensitive but it does make us laugh - at how daft they are! However we always check the site of the itch just in case and try to ensure the claws are not sharp. I'm glad everything is fine for Harvey cos you never know but sometimes its a very simple thing!
    We had one Cav who used to get his paws caught in his lovely long ears and just sit there waiting to be untangled!

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    Wow. I would be very offended at any Dr. who reacted that way! You are ultimately responsible for the health of those in your care--whether it's your dog, yourself, a child, etc. It's your responsibility to find out all you can, from whatever source, to make sure you are as informed as you can be---any Dr should be encouraging that.

    I hope that the ear infection clears up and that you're not seeing further symtoms. If you do though, I would suggest seeing a vet how is more proactive in patients educating themselves.
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    I am pleased to hear that everything seems to be ok.

    But wow, re the vet's response re the internet. It is a fact of life, and all professions now have patients & clients who are educated & often come in with print-outs. In fact there are doctors & vet who will learn things via their patients because of their research.

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    So relieved to hear that it's just itchy ears! Hope the meds work and quickly!
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