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    I am not feeding our pup raw yet. I also order Timber Wolf Organic online and add the salmon oil along with with fresh vegetables and fruits for now. Sometimes a 10 minute omega egg is added if no veggies are added or even a little plain yogurt. Knock on wood so far he has excellent digestion with no diarrhea complications.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CavyMom View Post
    Seraphine - Can you get prepared raw diets where you are? I've had a few dogs that just refused kibble of any type, and do wonderful on raw diets, the prepared raw diets are a great option for people who want raw in a convient to feed form. Personally I like to balance out my dogs' diets myself, but I've done years of research to know how to do this properly.
    Thanks for the suggestion. I have heard the prepared raw diets are available somewhere in my country, but not anywhere near where I live. I'd have to have it ordered, and in the longrun I'm fairly sure that would be too expensive for me. I am still going to try it if he refuses James Wellbeloved kibble though, I'm just not sure how long I'm going to be able to keep it up if he does like it.

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    Our little guy - 12 weeks is a bit of a fuss pot - but we decided that we would not pander to him. He is on dry kibble twice a day which he isn't too partial to - Science Plan Puppy - but we are following the advice here and the vet's advice to try and establish him on it for a while. He likes chicken, lamb and scrambled eggs too.

    Tried on some Science Plan wet food but he doesn't seem to be able to digest it as well.

    Had him at Vet for vaccination today and she is very pleased with him.

    My mum has a Bichon who is so overweight it is unbelievable so we decided not to go down the route.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metime View Post
    Our little guy - 12 weeks is a bit of a fuss pot - but we decided that we would not pander to him. He is on dry kibble twice a day which he isn't too partial to - Science Plan Puppy - but we are following the advice here and the vet's advice to try and establish him on it for a while. He likes chicken, lamb and scrambled eggs too.

    Tried on some Science Plan wet food but he doesn't seem to be able to digest it as well.

    Had him at Vet for vaccination today and she is very pleased with him.

    My mum has a Bichon who is so overweight it is unbelievable so we decided not to go down the route.
    OK-- I have to say it. IMO-- There are soooo many better foods than this. Here are the ingredients for Science Diet Puppy:
    Ingredients: Ground Whole Grain Corn, Chicken By-Product Meal, Soybean Meal, Animal Fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols and citric acid), Dried Beet Pulp, Chicken Liver Flavor, Dicalcium Phosphate, Brewers Rice, Fish Oil, Flaxseed, Soybean Oil, Iodized Salt, Choline Chloride, Potassium Chloride, Vitamin E Supplement, vitamins (L-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (source of vitamin C), Vitamin E Supplement, Niacin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Vitamin A Supplement, Calcium Pantothenate, Biotin, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Riboflavin, Folic Acid, Vitamin D3 Supplement), minerals (Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Oxide, Copper Sulfate, Manganous Oxide, Calcium Iodate, Sodium Selenite), preserved with Mixed Tocopherols and Citric Acid, Beta-Carotene, Rosemary Extract.

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    I agree -- Science Diet is very expensive for a mediocre quality food. Vets sell it because Science Plan works closely with them. I think their special diets are fine -- for ill dogs or dogs with particular dietary conditions --but little better than a supermarket food (if any better at all!) with the normal diets. Note on that ingredient list there isn't a SINGLE quality or even medium-quality protein source -- just chicken by-product meal, which is one of the lowest quality sources of meat. You want to see a names meat in the first two ingredients -- not by products, not derivatives. EG lamb, chicken, turkey, beef, fish. I have no idea why some other food makers do not approach vets and get their better quality foods into their practices.

    I would recommend Royal Canin or James Wellbeloved instead, two much better quality foods that are widely available from good pet shops. Also generally many breeders do not feed puppies puppy food -- adult foods are very complete and many feel puppy foods accelerate growth in an undesireable way. I totally agree with the vet to focus on a single food.

    Seraphine, this is what I would do with a single quality kibble and not keep trying new things -- there are quite a few posts recently on problem eaters and chances are yours is simply holding out -- all those foods are really good quality and there's just no reason a dog should be refusing them. Or try a homecooked approach -- this is far easier than raw, more hygienic to prepare, and easy to balance the diet as well. Or mix half cooked, half kibble (this is what I often do). There are many recipes in the Caring for your Cavalier section which come from animal nutritionists -- I regularly make stews. It is good to have a dog eating something besides just soft food of whatever sort as this can accelerate gum disease and tooth decay. Very, very few puppies or dogs are truly so finicky that they won't eat particular foods. In 99% of cases, this is a behaviour issue and the owner risks ending up with a finicky dog by giving in and seeking new ways to tempt the dog every few meals, while also giving the dog lots of extra attention at mealtime by trying to get him to eat.

    One of the most common problems people post about here is 'my dog doesn't like [fill in the name of a food] but will eat [another food] but only for a day or two then won't eat that.' The solution is always the same -- follow the feeding directions here:

    http://www.roycroftcavaliers.com/manualfeeding.htm

    In particular:

    FEEDING DIRECTIONS
    Whether you decide to feed a high quality kibble or a commercially prepared whole foods diet, the following directions will apply.

    Puppies between 8 and 16 weeks of age do quite well on 3 meals a day. They start out with about a large handful of kibble for each meal or about 1/4 cup. At about 4 to 6 months of age you may begin feeding your puppy twice a day, about 1/2 cup or so each time. Somewhere between 10 and 18 months of age you may begin feeding just once a day--with some really good eaters you may need to feed just once a day by 6 or 7 months of age.

    Each time you feed your puppy, put the food down for approximately 15 minutes. If the puppy hasn't finished it after 15 minutes, pick it up and put it away until the next feeding time. Do NOT try to feed in between. Refrigerate if you are feeding a commercially prepared whole foods diet. Do not worry if your puppy appears thin. Puppies are just like humans. Some are very thin while growing up and some are not. It is highly unlikely your puppy will starve itself unless it is already ill. A puppy that grows slowly is best--there is no first prize for gaining full size as early as possible! Puppies who grow slowly are more likely to be able to develop muscle and tissue at the correct rate to keep up the the bone development. Of course some puppies are gluttons! Be careful not to overfeed a glutton.

    As adults some Cavaliers may only eat 1/2 cup of food per day, others may eat as much as 1 full cup of food per day. I do not suggest feeding an adult Cavalier twice a day even though it is best for the dog. Cavaliers do not eat much! Half of very little is almost nothing! Nearly every owner I've known who tried to feed an adult twice a day ended up with an overweight Cavalier. When they try to divide 1/2 or 2/3 cup of kibble into two servings the amount barely covers the bottom of the pan--so they add just a little bit more so they don't feel as though they are starving their Cavalier. A little bit more every meal eventually ends up being a lot more! And their Cavalier becomes overweight. With one meal a day the amount looks to our eyes as though it is a half way decent amount and we are much less likely to add just a little bit more each day.
    Karlin
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    I agree with Karlin - Having gone through vet tech school, I can personally tell you that Science Diet pays ALOT of money to have their products continually shoved at the vets and vet techs so they think it is the best food, but like other said - Do your research and compair ingredients, and you'll quickly see why very few knowledgable owners or breeders will recommend it. Ingredient wise, you'd be just as well off feeding Pedigree or Puppy Chow and saving alot of money! Price can be an indicator of quality, but read the ingredients - The most expensive isn't always the best!
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    Karlin, I did try not to make a fuss of him when he doesn't eat but I do tend to give into him now and play his game since whenever I've tried just putting food down 10-15 mins a time twice a day, he has always went over 5 days without taking more than maybe a couple of bites and that is with no treats, no one sneaking any other food to him and increased exercise. I've tried that several times, with all of the foods I've had so far. I've tried leaving food down all the time, no change. He's just so different compared to when he was a little pup at the breeder's, he was always the first one to the food bowl and ate the most of all. And then he stopped eating willingly when he was almost 3 months, so this has been going on quite a while now.

    He's been on the foods I've tried for quite some time too. The breeder had him on Royal Canin so he stayed on that to 3 months, then I switched to Orijen cause I wanted something better than RC for him. Was very clear he did not like Orijen but still tried that for well over a month, back to RC until he was 6 months and since then he's been on Eagle Pack Holistic (he's 10 months now). So it's not like I keep changing foods all the time and that's making him picky. But I'll see what James Wellbeloved does for him, he's crazy about their treats that we use for training so maybe he'll like their dry food as well. I sure hope so.

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    I usually cook for my dog. Her favourite is mince meat, peas, carrots and bulgur (boiled all together). She just loves it. She also get cod, tuna, salmon or lamb (instead of the mince meat) and couscous, pasta, quinoa or rice (instead of the bulgur). It doesn't take long to prepare and it probably costs me as much as tinned food. Give it a go, your dog will go mad!

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    Right now Ginger and Charley are on Innova dog food and I alternate it every 6 months with Solid Golds Hund nflocken.
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    It's been interesting reading this thread. I'm thinking of cooking some meals for Sally to put a little with her kibble and freeze the rest. She feeds well now but each time I feed her james wellbeloved and naturediet I think it must be boring everyday. Half of me thinks she's eating good quality food and is enjoying it so leave alone but half of me thinks make it more exciting! I'll have a look at the recipes on this site.

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