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Honest answers about rescues

chloe92us

Well-known member
Hi all,

I do not have any rescues, but my step-mother is Director of a major humane society and is very involved in rescue.

I have read a couple recent threads about rescue dogs biting, and one of her dogs is a biter as well. Is this as common in rescues as it seems? What makes a dog bite? And will they ever overcome it? I have a dog (not my Cavaliers) that will bite strange men if she is approached too quickly. I have never had a behaviorist or anything come in to work with her, as I just warn everyone immediately not to approach or touch her, and that's if I can't get her in her crate beforehand. How do those of you with biters handle it?

Thanks for your opinions.
 
I can only comment on my own experiences.

I've got 5 rescue cavaliers and have fostered numerous cavaliers and springers. I can honestly say I've only encountered one biter, and that was a young cav, who I believe had health problems too.

I don't think you can generalise, as with rescues we often have no idea of their background. I would hesitate to suggest that puppy farm/mill dogs are aggressive as we have 3 and only one has any behavioural problems, and that is the infamous Bradley ;)

All I would say is that poundies can be great dogs, BUT you have no idea whatsoever about their background and they are not assessed :(.

Puppy farm dogs may be very traumatised by their experiences, which may manifest itself in a number of ways, but they can be very rewarding dogs - if you are very patient and don't expect results overnight (or sometimes ever).
 
It's very hard to generalise about rescue dogs.
I've fostered three in the last year and my parents have taken one.
The first was an ex breeding bitch who was terrified,filthy and spent two days lying on her side on the floor and had not seen the inside of a house.
She was by nature a gentle soul and never bit anyone or anything.She's now a beautiful small child's dog.
Second was a dog who had a kind of fear aggression,he would go for other dogs but never people.
Our current foster is a darling,mad as a hatter but sweet and loving.
My parents' rescue was a compulsive food stealer and was obsessed with food, but again is sweet and gentle with adults and children.
Finally there's my own "chocolate box cavalier",well bred and hand reared by myself and she'll eat the hand off my daughter when feeling threatened or bullied.She's also taken a snap at the vet when getting injections so it's hard to confine biting behaviour to just rescues.I think dogs have varied reasons for snapping and nipping,ranging from fear,trauma and aggression to being downright spoiled.
Sins
 
Sometimes the reason they are rescues is because they may be biters. I feel if any dog is biting, the reason needs to be understood -- is it medical or behavioural? Can it be treated? If not, should the dog be put to sleep? Sometimes the latter, the very last choice anyone in rescue wants to take, has to be taken -- sometimes the dogs are clearly just deeply disturbed and unhappy, sometimes they are too unpredictable and could hurt someone. If the dog cannot be kept safely, and cannot be retrained or the medical condition treated, the responsible decision by rescue is to pts. I haven't had to take that decision yet though have had to consider it twice. Rescue is not about happy endings all the time. You have to have the ability to make the tough calls.

I think it is an ethical obligation to determine why a dog is biting because it always indicates some deep level of unhappiness -- most dogs will not bite until they feel they have no other choice. The first thing to do is medically assess. The second is to assess for temperament. If the dog is OK on both, then it is probably a behaviour issue that can be managed. For me, the borderline temperament dogs are the really difficult ones. Sometimes they can go to where that behaviour can e managed. But who could live with a child being maimed by a biting dog? Most bites requiring medical treatment from dogs are to children (over 70%), mostly by a dog they know, mostly to the face. So there's no way I'd put a questionable dog into a family situation -- has to be an adult home if there's the remotest question about temperament and the need for training.

Rescues are not more likely to bite -- but they are more likely to have behaviour problems. Usually these are owner induced from previous homes -- and the reason the owner gives up the dog is they never trained their dog so they get overwhelmed by the consequences of a hard to manage dog. Usually some basic training will address this type of problem but issues can become very ingrained and rarely, bad enough to lead to fear aggression. Puppy farm/mill dogs can have very serious behaviour and training problems. As noted above sometimes they can be fully addressed, sometimes partially addressed, and sometimes cannot be changed much at all. I think ALL mill dogs need to be medically and behaviourally assessed by professionals, not simply by fostering. I also think any dog showing aggression needs professional assessment before being rehomed. That would be international best rescue practice. I am really lucky that Tara and Lisa of Dog Training Ireland have been willing to give time to do these assessments for me and in some cases take on the questionable fosters themselves for closer assessment and beginning training. Tara has crate and obedience trained a LOT of my more challenging rescues before they went to their new homes as remodelled dogs! :)

In summary: I'd say that rescue dogs generally are no more inclined to bite than a dog down the street. :) Puppy mill rescues fall into a different category from general rescue (eg pound or shelter) dogs because they are generally unsocialised and can have fear aggression problems and there simply MUST be a greater burden on responsible rescue to carefully screen such dogs. Sadly though, this is not done enough which puts such dogs at risk of ending up in the pound or worse when people find they cannot manage the dog and don't feel able to re-contact the rescue about the dog -- as they wrongly feel they have failed. It can put people at risk too from bites, which isn't acceptable -- only an experienced home should take on such dogs with an understanding of how to manage the behaviour and continue to work slowly with the dog.

Ideally, rescues need to give 100% backup to all dogs once they are homed, and give every dog 100% the best chance of succeeding in a new home by having screened and assessed dogs in advance of placing them. :)
 
Excellent responses Misty, Sins and Karlin.

I think people generalize Cavaliers as being such gentle dogs. But we have to remember....they are dogs. Rescue dogs (especially mill dogs) come with so much baggage. They really need an experienced owner to guide them.
 
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